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05 Sep 00 - 08:34 AM (#291283) Subject: Trad Songs Background From: Mini Me Dear 'Catters, I will be performing the following 2 songs and wondered if you might help me with the historical background of these. Information such as ; what country the song originated in, possibly how old the song is, if the song is true or myth , etc. The first song is : 1) House Carpenter 2) If I were a Blackbird Thank you ! |
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05 Sep 00 - 11:14 AM (#291407) Subject: RE: Trad Songs Background From: Catrin MiniMi, I think you might get a lot more response if you put the name of the song you are interested in in the title of the thread (eg. - info request 'house carpenter') This is because, in my experience, people will look in threads they have an interest in - you'd be much more likely to attract 'Housecarpenter' or 'blackbird' enthusiasts by doing this. Another suggestion is that you start two threads, one for each song, otherwise the discussion can become confusing. Good luck, Catrin |
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05 Sep 00 - 06:54 PM (#291655) Subject: RE: Trad Songs Background From: Susan of DT House Carpenter is Child #243, so you can look up th eballad in Child or various other ballad books. My volume 4 of Child is hiding at the moment... |
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05 Sep 00 - 07:03 PM (#291666) Subject: RE: Trad Songs Background From: GUEST,JTT I think If I Were A Blackbird is an Irish song; Delia Murphy recorded it, and I *think* it's in Dublin Street Ballads collected by Colm O Lochlainn. My favourite verse: "His parents do spite me, nor will they agree That I and my sailor boy married should be But let them deride me, and do what they will While there's breath in my body, it's him I love still" |
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05 Sep 00 - 07:07 PM (#291671) Subject: RE: Trad Songs Background From: Mbo Silly Wizard does the male-oriented version, and I must say I prefer it over the others. |
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05 Sep 00 - 07:07 PM (#291672) Subject: RE: Trad Songs Background From: katlaughing Mini Me, I am a bit confused. I see that you already started two different threads, one for each song, and received answers from some of our best historians. kat |
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05 Sep 00 - 08:30 PM (#291733) Subject: RE: Trad Songs Background From: GUEST,Annraoi Every song has a story behind it, and I don't mean the academic approach "I collected this song from a blind beggar on the back road to Toledo in 19xx. It's connected to Childe NumberXXX and has echoes of the Igbo tradition of XXXXX." No, valuable as that approach is, in terms of singing in its natural context, every song was introduced by telling the story that led to the composition of the song and then the song was sung. This was the Irish tradition in my father's time - even moreso in my grandfather's time. Unfortunately the modern desire for instant gratification leaves no time for such niceties. The result has been the loss of a huge amount of information. How many people who sing "Úna Bhán" actually know the tragic story behind the song much less be in a position to tell it? Annraoi |
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05 Sep 00 - 08:47 PM (#291749) Subject: RE: Trad Songs Background From: Malcolm Douglas "Mini Me" took Catrin's advice and started separate threads for these two questions. ÿHere they are: History of the song ' Blackbird '
History on ' House Carpenter ' |