30 Aug 00 - 07:04 AM (#287709) Subject: Rory O'Moore From: GUEST,Krystian Paczkowski, Poland kryspacz@interi Hi! I"m looking desperately for the words of Wolfe Tones' song "Rory O'Moore" and Battlefield Band's "Rovin' dies hard". Can anyone help me, please? Krystian kryspacz@interia.pl |
30 Aug 00 - 01:10 PM (#287959) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rory O'Moore From: GUEST,Bruce O. There are over a dozen copies of Samuel Lover's "Rory O'More" on the Bodley Ballads website (Mudcat's Links). |
12 Sep 00 - 01:48 PM (#295777) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rory O'Moore by Wolfe Tones From: Ferrara I never heard of the Wolfe Tones but here's a Rory O'Moore anyway, who knows it may be what you want but probably not. It came from an old piano songbook and was an attempt to put words to a fiddle tune, I think. I know it's tacky, and I apologize ahead of time if it's not in the least what you're looking for!
Oh Rory O'Moore was an Irish colleen, |
12 Sep 00 - 01:56 PM (#295787) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rory O'Moore by Wolfe Tones From: GUEST,Bruce O. There are several copies of Samuel Lover's "Rory O'More" on the Bodley Ballads website (in Mudcat's Links) |
12 Sep 00 - 02:18 PM (#295806) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rory O'Moore by Wolfe Tones From: Malcolm Douglas I don't know what version the Wolfe Tones recorded, but there's also a set from the Grieg-Duncan Folk Song Collection on the DT: Rory O'More It's always a good idea to try alternative spellings when using any of the Search facilities here (I assume you did a search first) as song titles often come in a number of differing forms. Malcolm |
12 Sep 00 - 06:36 PM (#296018) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rory O'Moore by Wolfe Tones From: GUEST,Martin Ryan That's better! I thought we had an early gender-bender for a moment! Regards |
12 Sep 00 - 07:28 PM (#296060) Subject: Lyr Add: RORY O'MOORE (from The Wolfe Tones) From: Susanne (skw) I suspect this is what Krystian is after, recorded on 'Belt of the Celts' (1978):
RORY O'MOORE |
12 Sep 00 - 07:55 PM (#296075) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Rory O'Moore by Wolfe Tones From: Susanne (skw) Sorry, Bruce, I must have overlooked your post! |
20 Jun 22 - 06:45 PM (#4144934) Subject: Origins: Rory O'Moore / Rory O'More From: Joe Offer Here's the entry on this song from the Traditional Ballad Index: Rory O'MoreDESCRIPTION: "Young Rory O'More courted young Kathleen Bawn." He teases her. She says Mike loves her and dreams of hating Rory. Rory says "drames always go by contraries," After thrashing Dinny Grimes and Jim Duff he asks her to marry. They marry and retire to bed.AUTHOR: Samuel Lover (1797-1868) EARLIEST DATE: before 1839 (broadside, Bodleian Harding B 11(3313)) KEYWORDS: courting marriage fight dream FOUND IN: Britain(Scotland(Aber)) REFERENCES (6 citations): Greig/Duncan4 770, "Rory o' More" (1 text, 1 tune) O'Conor-OldTimeSongsAndBalladOfIreland, p. 90, "Rory O'More" (1 text) Wolf-AmericanSongSheets, #2030, p. 136, "Rory O'More" (2 references) Winstock-SongsAndMusicOfTheRedcoats, pp. 217-218, "Rory O'More" (1 tune) Heart-Songs, pp. 202-204, "Rory O'Moore" (1 text, 1 tune) Hylands-Mammoth-Hibernian-Songster, pp. 49-50, "Rory O'More" (1 text) Roud #6125 BROADSIDES: Bodleian, Harding B 11(3313), "Rory O'More", J. Catnach (London), 1813-1838; also Firth b.27(136), Harding B 11(1513), Firth c.17(129) [only partly legible], Harding B 11(2596), Harding B 25(72), 2806 b.11(243), Harding B 16(233c), Harding B 11(3312), Firth b.34(212) View 2 of 2, 2806 c.16(297), Johnson Ballads 342, 2806 c.15(328), "Rory O'More" SAME TUNE: Too-Ril-Te-Too (The Robin and the Cat) (File: Lins293) ALTERNATE TITLES: Rory O'Moore NOTES [300 words]: Since O'Conor-OldTimeSongsAndBalladOfIreland omits the fourth(final) stanza broadside Bodleian Harding B 11(3313) was used for the Description. Greig/Duncan4, like O'Conor, omits the broadside's fourth verse. Since, other than that, the text matches the broadside very closely, this may be an example of intentional self-censorship although that fourth verse is mild: they marry and go to bed. - BS At least one source sub-titles this "Good Omens." There was an Irish nationalist, Rory O'More, who was a leader of the 1641 rebellion (and a grandfather of Sarsfield, for whom see "After Aughrim's Great Disaster"). It doesn't appear he is connected with this song, though. According to William H. A. Williams, 'Twas Only an Irishman's Dream, University of Illinois Press, 1996, p. 66, "By the 1830s the Irishman was becoming a familiar figure in the American theater. In that decade, however, the combined talents of two men in London helped move Paddy from the periphery to center stage on both sides of the Atlantic. In 1836 Samuel Lover's Rory O'More, a song turned into a play, was among the first comedies to have an Irish peasant character as the hero. The play's success was guaranteed by the superb acting of the man who created the title role, Tyrone Power." On p. 67, Williams adds that Lover sought to transform the figure of the Irishman: "Lover replaced the old savage element of the stereotype with a childlike naivete. According to [Sally E.] Foster, Lover cleaned up the stage Irishman and made him fit for respectable middle-class entertainment. In doing so, he gave Paddy a new lease on life." This Tyrone Power (full name: William Grattan Tyrone Power, born in Waterford in 1797; he was lost at sea on the President in 1841) was the great-grandfather of the Hollywood star. - RBW Last updated in version 6.1 File: OCon090 Go to the Ballad Search form Go to the Ballad Index Instructions The Ballad Index Copyright 2022 by Robert B. Waltz and David G. Engle. RORY O'MORE (Digital Tradition lyrics) Young Rory O'More courted Kathleen Bawn He was bold as a hawk and she soft as the dawn He wished in his heart pretty Kathleen to please And he thought the best way to do that was to tease. "Now Rory be easy," sweet Kathleen would cry Reproof on her lip but a smile in her eye "With your tricks I don't know in troth what I'm about Faith you've teased till I've put on my cloak inside out. "O jewel," says Rory, " that same is the way You've thrated my heart for this many a day And tis plaz'd that I am and why not to be sure For tis all for good luck." says bold Rory O'More. "Indeed then," says Kathleen," don't think of the like For I half gave a promise to soothering Mike The ground that I walk on he loves I'll be bound." "Faith," says Rory," I'd rather love you than the ground." "Now Rory I'II cry if you don't let me go Sure I drcam every night that I'm hating you so" "Oh," says Rory," that same I'm delighted to hear For dhrames always go by contrairies my dear." "O jewel keep dhraming that same till you die And bright morning will give dirty night the black lie And tis plaz'd that I am and why not to be sure Since tis all for good luck," says bold Rory O'More. "Arrah Kathleen my darling you've teased me enough Sure I've thrashed for your sake Dinny Grimes and Jim Duff And I've made myself drinking your health quite a baste So I think after that I may talk to the priest." Then Rory the rogue stole his arm round her neck So soft and so white without freckle or speck And he looked in her eyes that were beaming with light And he kissed her sweet lips don't you think he was right. "Now Rory leave off sir you'll hug me no more That's eight times today and you've kissed me before" "Then here goes another," says he, " to make sure For there's luck in odd numbers." says Rory O'More. From the Grieg-Duncan Folk Song Collection note: An Irish song, collected in Scotland @courtship @love filename[ RORYOMOR TUNE FILE: RORYOMOR CLICK TO PLAY RG
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18 Jul 23 - 01:37 PM (#4177187) Subject: RE: Origins: Rory O'Moore / Rory O'More From: GUEST I first learned the tune "Rory O'More" as a New England contra dance. I later learned the version of the words from the "Heart Songs" book, of which I have a copy. |
18 Jul 23 - 04:10 PM (#4177196) Subject: RE: Origins: Rory O'Moore / Rory O'More From: RTim The tune Rory O'More is also used for the Adderbury handkerchief Morris dance - "Haste to the Wedding"......which was traditionally the second dance in a show, following "Sweet Jenny Jones"... Tim Radford |
22 Jul 23 - 06:30 AM (#4177419) Subject: RE: Origins: Rory O'Moore / Rory O'More From: Mo the caller I didn't even know the tune, but there is a contra dance move called Rory O'More where you start side by side facing opposite directions, holding R hands, and slide past each other twirling clockwise (or anticlockwise if you start holding L hands). I imagined the move got it's name from the name of a dance (perhaps Scottish) |