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02 Oct 00 - 11:58 AM (#310248) Subject: Charlottetown - the song From: GUEST,pmclung@lps.org Hi! I am a library media specialist in Lincoln Nebraska and a music teacher is using a song entitled "Charlottetown" and wants to know some background info about the song. It has lyrics about Charlottetown is burning down...Goodbye Liza Jane. Does anyone know if an actual event took place to cause the song to be written. The music students want to know the story behind the song. Thanks! Paula McClung |
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02 Oct 00 - 12:33 PM (#310273) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST,Russ The version I know goes "Charleston town is burning down." It is probably a song that has been customized to have local references. Don't know what the original version would be. |
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02 Oct 00 - 01:40 PM (#310315) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: Robby Do a 30 day refresher on the Mudcat Home Page and then scroll down to the thread "Re Charlotte Town", the last entry was on September 19th of this year. This should provide some of the answers or information. If I knew how, I'd give you a LBCT (Little Blue Clicky Thigh) to take you right there, but I'm new to this html stuff. |
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02 Oct 00 - 02:42 PM (#310354) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: Robby OK. I've looked at my html guide. Let's see if this works. Click here. I won't know if this will work until after I submit the message, so good luck. |
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03 Oct 00 - 11:48 AM (#310984) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: rabbitrunning In Girl scouts we sang only one verse and chorus and did it as a round, thusly: Charlotte Town is burning down Goodbye Goodbye Burning down to the ground Goodbye Liza Jane Aintcha mighty sorry Goodbye Goodbye Aintcha mighty sorry Goodbye Liza Jane Colorado, circa 1970, Flying G Ranch CD |
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03 Oct 00 - 11:52 AM (#310986) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: rabbitrunning whoops, added that to the wrong thread. Oh well, what I was going to say here was that my camp counselors thought it meant a place called Charlotte, rather than Charlottetown. |
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03 Oct 00 - 05:07 PM (#311310) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: Anglo I learned this, roughly as above, as "Scarlet Town" with some of the Liza Jane verses referred to in Robby's blue clicky thread. This was from a folk singer in England in the mid 60s. |
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03 Oct 00 - 07:25 PM (#311431) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: Ebbie In Barb'ry Allen, it's Charlotte town, isn't it? I think I assumed it was Charlotte, North Carolina. But is it older, as in from England? Ebbie |
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03 Oct 00 - 11:22 PM (#311614) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: jets The town of Charloton in Prince Edwards Island Canada,with much of the rest of the island ,was davestated by a fire. The date was some time in the middle 1800s .Could this be the origin of the song? |
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06 Jul 09 - 01:23 PM (#2673009) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST,the bomb and to sing in chorus Charlottetown a couple of versus Charlottetown's burning down goodbye goodbye burning down to the ground goodbye Liza Jane Aintcha mighty sorry goodbye goodbye aintcha mighty sorry goodbye Liza Jane Charlottetown is burning down oh goodbye Liza Jane my Liza (x2) Burning down unto the ground oh goodbye Liza, Liza Jane Aintcha mighty sorry goodbye goodbye aintcha mighty sorry goodbye Liza Jane thats all i know hope it helps :) p.s i'm a boy so yea it was imberissing but we didnt sing that in our concert :) |
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03 Nov 10 - 07:57 PM (#3023002) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST I dont knwo any iformation about charlottetown but my cloir class is doing it for one of their songs. wish i could b more of a help... |
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04 Nov 10 - 08:16 PM (#3023884) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: Sandy Mc Lean The Great Fire of Charlottetown PEI was in 1866. FIRE |
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24 Jul 11 - 11:06 PM (#3194693) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST,MC Judy Henske cut a version with quiet a few verses in 1964 on her "High Flying Bird" album. |
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19 Oct 11 - 10:14 PM (#3241666) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST,theamazingone charlottes town is burning down goodbye bye-bye charlottes town is burning down goodbye liza jane aincha mighty sorry goodbye bye-bye aintcha mighty sorry goodbye liza jane goodbye liza jane my liza burning down unto the ground goodbye liza, liza jane (X2)aintcha mighty sorry goodbye bye-bye aintxha mighty sorry goodbye liza jane |
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22 Feb 12 - 07:38 PM (#3311934) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST,wyatt :) |
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27 Sep 13 - 10:07 AM (#3561871) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST,stylo167 In 1866 there was a fire in Charlottetown, PEI, Canada. The fire destroyed most of the town. I can't find any information on "Liza Jane" though. |
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27 Sep 13 - 10:11 AM (#3561875) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST http://www.mikeballantyne.ca/transcriptions_other/lizajane.php |
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28 Sep 13 - 06:44 AM (#3562165) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: Mr Happy Charlottetown aka Scarlet Town? |
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23 Aug 15 - 01:15 PM (#3732620) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST,Yay |
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23 Aug 15 - 01:15 PM (#3732621) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST,Yay I know. T |
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23 Aug 15 - 01:23 PM (#3732622) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST,cosmos42 And yet another example of songs being distorted as they pass down orally, I learned it as German Town. Then again, that could be because I learned it at Camp Sherman, and they customized it as a dismissal song ("Sherman town is burning down, goodbye, goodbye...Ain't you mighty sorry, goodbye ________"), so maybe I just extrapolated that the original was "German Town". |
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24 Aug 15 - 08:36 AM (#3732823) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: Stanron There are some similarities to the English nursery rhyme London Bridge is falling down Falling down falling down London Bridge is falling down My fair lady. The story was that a medieval king gave the toll revenues from the bridge to his wife. Instead of spending the money on maintaining the old wooden structure she just went shopping. Hence the 'falling down' and the 'my fair lady'. |
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06 Feb 17 - 04:05 PM (#3837159) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST,Anonymous I learned this song in choir,and it goes: Hey,ho the boatmen row.(Floatin' down the river on the Ohio)×2 Charlotte town's burnin' down goodbye, goodbye.Burnin' down to the ground goodbye Liza Jane. Black my boots and a make them shine goodbye,goodbye.Black my boots and a make them shine goodbye Liza Jane. There's a gal in Baltimore goodbye,goodbye. Silver door plate on her door goodbye Liza Jane. CHORUS:Aintcha mighty sorry goodbye,goodbye. Aintcha mighty sorry goodbye Liza Jane. |
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06 Feb 17 - 05:28 PM (#3837170) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: ChanteyLass There's also the song Charleston Town. http://www.traditionalmusic.co.uk/old-time-music/old-time-songs/charleston_town_.html This song is about US Civil War General Sherman's Marich to the Sea, when he burned Atlanta and other cities. |
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01 Aug 17 - 03:29 PM (#3869465) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST Emily Crocker's arrangement Charlotte-Town is a mashup of several folksongs. Not a primary source. |
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01 Aug 17 - 05:42 PM (#3869474) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: Amos Charlotte NC is a major town in the American South. Given that the song sounds like a Southern Appalachian piece, I would suspect that was the Charlotte town in question. But the city was a major rail hub in the period, and was not badly damaged by the Federals. AFTER the war, there was extensive burning and looting until the Federals moved in and occupied the city until 1872. |
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02 Aug 17 - 10:19 AM (#3869534) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST I heard the song as 'Scarlet Town' and was told that 'Scarlet Town' was another name for London - though it seems unlikely to me. The only other context where I've heard of 'Scarlet Town' was as the setting for some versions of the song 'Barbara Allen'. |
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22 Sep 19 - 09:29 AM (#4009914) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST,Guest I sang this song in our school choir in the early 70's.I remember the lyrics but never heard the song again in life.Today I heard Charlottetown, looked it up and hear I am! Thanks everyone for retoring my sanity and all of the interesting stories about the song! |
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24 Sep 19 - 10:02 AM (#4010250) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: Mrrzy Robby, I want a blue clicky thigh! I just have clicly knees. I never realized this Charlottetown was in PEI. Great thread. |
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28 Mar 24 - 09:04 PM (#4199962) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST,Denro55 Watching an episode of The Amazing Race Canada, in March 2024, from 2014. They are in Charlottetown PEI and it made me remember the round from Girl Scout Camp, Camp Yankee Trails, from the 70s. Thanks for the info - even though there are so many different town names, and that very interesting long song with this interspersed within - I bet the song came first and Charlottetown was added after the fire in PEI in the mid 1800s. |
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31 Mar 24 - 01:21 PM (#4200150) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST is the PEI one the Boston Burglar was sent to? |
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01 Apr 24 - 02:48 PM (#4200217) Subject: RE: Help: What do you know about Charlottetown? From: GUEST The Boston Burglar was sent to Charlestown, a Boston suburb. |