Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament

03 Oct 00 - 05:56 AM (#310805)
Subject: Lyr Add: GUY FAWKES
From: *Conrad Bladey Peasant-Inactive

Guy Fawkes

The Tune!

I'll tell you a doleful tragedy 
Guy Fawkes, the prince of sinisters 
Who once blew up the House of Lords 
The King and all his ministers 
That is, he would have blown them up, 
And we would ne'er forget him, 
his will was good to do the deed 
If they had only let him. 

Singing bow-wow-wow, 
Whack fol-de-riddle, 
Singing bow-wow-wow 

Straightway he came from Lambeth side 
And wished the State was undone; 
And crossing over Vauxhall bridge 
That way he came to London; 
That is, he would have crossed the bridge 
To perpetrate his guilt, sir, 
But a trifling thing prevented him, 
The bridge it was not built, Sir. 
And as he searched the dreary vaults 
With portable gas light, sir, 
About to touch the powder train 
At the witching hour of night, sir; 
That is, he would have used the gas, 
Had he not been prevented; 
But gas you know, in James's time, 
It hadn't been invented. 

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03 Oct 00 - 07:04 AM (#310820)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: Bud Savoie

Conrad, will you please knock this crap off? If anyone knew a song like this, it would be you.

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03 Oct 00 - 01:36 PM (#311062)
Subject: Tune Add: GUY FAWKES
From: *Conrad Bladey Peasant-Inactive

Here is the abcs

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03 Oct 00 - 01:38 PM (#311065)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: *Conrad Bladey Peasant-Inactive

Here is the proper midi link

Play the fawkes song!clickit right here

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03 Oct 00 - 01:40 PM (#311067)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: *Conrad Bladey Peasant-Inactive

My aren't we tolerant! So anything you don't agree with should not exist. Wow how original a principal....but it just won't work!

Conrad

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03 Oct 00 - 02:13 PM (#311117)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: *Conrad Bladey Peasant-Inactive

Click here for a GIF of the tune

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Embedded image was deleted - they're not allowed at Mudcat.
-Joe Offer-

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03 Oct 00 - 03:28 PM (#311215)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: wildlone

A loud HUZZAH for the only man to enter parliment with honest intentions.

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03 Oct 00 - 04:07 PM (#311256)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: paddymac

heheheheheheheheheheheheheeheh - Hurrah for "wildlone"

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04 Oct 00 - 04:51 PM (#312176)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: Tegwyn

What song did Guy Fawkes hum to himself as he set to work? Why - 'Ain't gonna need this House no longer...'

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04 Oct 00 - 10:00 PM (#312451)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: *Conrad Bladey Peasant-Inactive

good one! check out our web pages http://www.bcpl.net/~cbladey/guy/html/maina.html

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04 Oct 00 - 10:51 PM (#312483)
Subject: Lyr Add: GUY FAWKES
From: *Conrad Bladey Peasant-Inactive

Ok here are the full set of lyrics-

Guy Fawkes

I sing a doleful tragedy—Guy Fawkes, the Prince of Sinisters,
Who once blew up the House of Lords, the King, and all his Ministers;
That is—he would have blown them up, and folks will ne'er forget him—
His will was good to do the deed-that is, if they'd have let him!

Chorus- Bow, wow, wow
              Tol lol de riddle lol de rol lol de ray.

He straightway came from Lambeth side, and wish'd the State was undone,
And crossing over Vauxhall Bridge, that way com'd into London;
That is- he would have come that way to perpetrate his guilt, sirs,
But a little thing prevented him- the bridge it was not built, sirs.

Then searching through the dreary vaults, with portable gas-light, sirs,
About to touch the powder train, at witching hour of night, sirs,
That is—I mean, he would have used the gas, but was prevented,
'Cause gas, you see, in James's time, it had not been invented

And when they caught him int the fact, so very near the Crown's end,
They straightway sent to Bow Street for that brave old runner Townshend;
That is—they would have sent for him—for fear he is no starter at—
But Townshend wasn't living then-he wasn't born till arter that.

So then they put poor Guy to death, for ages to remember,
And boys now kill him once a-year, in dreary, dark November;
That is—I mean his effigy, for truth is strong and steady—
Poor Guy they cannot kill again, because he's dead already.

Then bless her Gracious Majesty, and bless her Royal Son, sirs—
And may he never get blown up, if to the Throne he comes, sirs;
And if he lives, I'm sure he'll reign, so prophesies my song, sirs—
And if he don't, why then he won't, and so I can't be wrong, sirs.

- Bodliean Ballad Collection, Johnson Ballads 2539

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05 Oct 00 - 05:09 AM (#312607)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: Joe Offer

The songs are always appreciated, Conrad. Please ignore those who might like to try to prevent you from posting them.
It would often help if you could give us some background information, so we can fit the songs into context. It's great to have the tunes - Noteworthy or MIDI or ABC is best. If you wish to make a GIF of the tune availabe, please post a clickable link. Embedded images are not allowed at Mudcat, and it's a hassle for me to have to follow you around and convert your images to links.
-Joe Offer-

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05 Oct 00 - 07:23 AM (#312625)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: Bud Savoie

Conrad and Joe, I seem to have come off as someone who likes to suppress folk songs. Sorry, that's not my point. The "crap" referred to was the constant posting of things divisive to the Mudcat. I have collections, vinyl and printed, of songs on both sides of the American Civil War, Prohibition, Northern Ireland, the American Revolution, and others. The songs are a valuable record and should be preserved. They often don't express my personal feelings in the matters involved, but they don't have to. I am not trying to "prevent you from posting them," but you seem to specialize in a certain type of song that expresses a negative attitude. Comments by other Mudcatters on other of your threads will confirm this.

Actually, I punched into this thread right now to express my sincere admiration for your talent for artistic websiting. I'm in the process of setting up a site of my own and am constantly looking for ideas. Your sites, however I may disagree with the content, are beautifully done and artistically designed.

That said, I like your "non-judgmental" posts to the 'Cat very much.

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05 Oct 00 - 07:24 AM (#312627)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: *Conrad Bladey Peasant-Inactive

Sorry Joe Was in a hurry and forgot.... Unfortunately the Bodliean is a good source but they do not provide anything but the name of collection and item number which I cited.

Here is some information-

This ballad appears in several forms in the Bodliean collection of broadsides. For the most part all the verses are present. This is the version with the most verses. Unfortunately, because it is so funny, the last verse is often ommitted. There is no date given but it appears to be firmly within the mid 19th century if not earlier. The version with the last line must have been written after the birth of a queen's son. Victoria?

Conrad Bladey

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14 Jan 03 - 06:47 PM (#867000)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament-
From: *#1 PEASANT*

This is a version from the play "The Meltonians" It dates from 1837 and may be the earliest version yet found. We need to track down Townshend the policeman. I have a feeling that he and the last line were added. This was a favorite song of Charles Dickens as remembered by his son Charles.


The Meltonians Verson Guy Fawkes Song

Lumber's   Song
Tune: Bow Wow wow

I'll sing a doleful ditty, Guy Fawkes the prince of Sinisters
Who once blew up the house, the King, and all his ministers.
That is he would have blown them up & folk will neer forget him.
His will was good to do the deed, that is if they had let him.

He straitway came from Lambeth Marsh & wish'd the state undone
Then coming over Vauxhall bridge that way came into London
That is he would have come that way, to perpetrate his guilt Sir
But a little thing prevented him, the Bridge it was not built Sir.

Then searching thro the dreary vault, at witching hour of night Sir
About to touch the powder train with portable gas light Sir
That is I mean he'd have used the gas, but was prewented
Cause Gas you see in James time it hadn't been inwented.

And when they caught him in the act & saw what he was bent for
Immediately to Scotland Yard the new Police was sent for
That is they would have sent for them, for fear of Guy's resistance
Only that the new Police they were not in existence.

So then they put poor Guy to death for ages to remember
And boys now kill him once a year in dreary dark November
That is I mean his effigy, for truth is strong & steady
Poor Guy they cannot kill again because he's dead already.

That Mr. Fawkes was ill advis'd there cannot be a doubt Sir
For if he'd left them to themselves, his wish might come about Sir
That is if he'd gone in the house & listen'd to the pother
He'd soon have seen the members try to blow up one another.


-The Meltonians R. B. Peake 1837, London,.Act Two, Scene I.

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14 Jan 03 - 06:49 PM (#867005)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: *#1 PEASANT*

Forgot to note that I have compiled a list of known sources to date:

Other versions/sources:
-Bodleian Library: Guy Fawkes,Johnson Ballads 2539 , Guy Fawkes and the Parliament, Harting b 112706 (1819-44),Guy Fawkes, Harting b11863 1819-44,Guy Fawkes Harting b 363, Harting B 36 3, Found in The Meltonians,Peake, R.B., Dec.1837, also: Third Edition Guy Fawkes a C Comic Song written and Composed A Wag.,London, Metzler and Co..(Undated with inscription date 1866) also found in:A Match for a King, April-May 1849, A.R. Smith. The Meltonians R. B. Peake 1837, London,.Act Two, Scene I.

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14 Jan 03 - 07:50 PM (#867026)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: *#1 PEASANT*

Forgot one!


Other versions/sources:
-Bodleian Library: Guy Fawkes,Johnson Ballads 2539 , Guy Fawkes and the Parliament, Harting b 112706 (1819-44),Guy Fawkes, Harting b11863 1819-44,Guy Fawkes Harting b 363, Harting B 36 3, Found in The Meltonians,Peake, R.B., Dec.1837, also: Third Edition Guy Fawkes a C Comic Song written and Composed A Wag.,London, Metzler and Co..(Undated with inscription date 1866) also found in:A Match for a King, April-May 1849, A.R. Smith. The Meltonians R. B. Peake 1837, London,.Act Two, Scene I. Louise Pound, "American Ballads and Songs"

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14 Jan 03 - 08:48 PM (#867069)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: *#1 PEASANT*

Townshend was the most famous and most experienced of the Bow Street Runners who is quoted in a study as being around in 1828

"23. This information was supplied in 1828 by
Townshend, the most famous and most experienced of the
Bow Street Runners (Fitzgerald 1888, 1, 128-29) ."

Dickens whose favorite song this was lived from 1812-1870

The new police however......
if that refers to the Metropolitain Police
took over the bow street runners in 1829....

I have not been able to find the dates for Townshend
It is possible that Townshend was around in 1837 and that he survived the merger of 1829....

Conrad

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15 Jan 03 - 07:26 PM (#867869)
Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Guy Fawkes and the Parliament
From: mack/misophist

And now for something completely different. It is my understanding that Guy Fawkes is responsible for the word 'equivocate'. When caught in a lie during his questioning, he is said to have responded "I must have equivocated myself."

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