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23 Oct 00 - 02:18 PM (#325435) Subject: Norma's new one... From: GUEST,Jane To those of you who already had a chance to listen to it - what do you think about Norma Waterson's new traditional album "Bright Shiny Morning"? |
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24 Oct 00 - 04:12 AM (#325916) Subject: RE: Norma's new one... From: Wolfgang Well, no wonder with my traditional bias, I like it much better than her other solo attempts, but I still think she is a bit stronger in the context of a group, like on the Waterson/Carthy CDs. But some of the songs are outstanding in her interpretation. Well worth buying. If you don't know the tracklist yet, here are all songs on that CD including notes and all lyrics: Wolfgang |
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24 Oct 00 - 05:32 AM (#325933) Subject: RE: Norma's new one... From: Callie I enjoy her singing and also admire the wide way she thinks about music - her definition of 'folk' is broad. Funny, I was just listening to her singing Elvis Costello's song "The Birds Will Still Be Singing" which she does wonderfully. I am probably alone at being annoyed with the "Common Tongue" album - although I think the songs are very fine, her tendency to sing out of tune and swoop up to notes makes it almost unlistenable for me. Haven't heard the new stuff. C |
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24 Oct 00 - 05:50 AM (#325940) Subject: RE: Norma's new one... From: KingBrilliant I really like the strange keys & swooping - that's what I think makes her singing so special. Its funny how one man's meat is another man's poison. Kris |
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24 Oct 00 - 06:29 AM (#325954) Subject: RE: Norma's new one... From: MartinRyan I remember hearing the Watersons in Dublin many years ago. Every so often Norma would go off on a strange harmony line of her own. There would be a moment of panic among the others - you can always tell when harmony groups are in trouble , by watching their eyes move! You could almost hear them mentally saying to themselves "Its only Norma. She'll be alright!", as they settled back... Regards |
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24 Oct 00 - 07:59 AM (#325977) Subject: RE: Norma's new one... From: Garry Gillard I announced my BSM page a week ago in this thread. I think this recording is a near-perfect blend of literally traditional (as in learnt from other live singers) with sensitive musicianship (from all participants). There may never be another like it. Garry |
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24 Oct 00 - 03:45 PM (#326280) Subject: RE: Norma's new one... From: GUEST,Kernow Jon Guest Jane I had to go to London over the weekend but the one saving grace was a visit to a mega store with a great collection of folk CDs. Bought the one you mention and played it on the long drive back, loved every minute of it, for me much better than the last. KJ |
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24 Oct 00 - 04:19 PM (#326312) Subject: RE: Norma's new one... From: McGrath of Harlow "Her tendency to sing out of tune and swoop up to notes makes it almost unlistenable for me."
You know, that reminds me of Emperor Joseph telling Mozart that the trouble with his music was he used too many notes... |
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24 Oct 00 - 05:55 PM (#326390) Subject: RE: Norma's new one... From: Richard Bridge Norma out of tune? You mean maybe perfectly in tune with a line the less priviledged cannot hear? Or is that just the emperor's new clothes? |
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25 Oct 00 - 01:55 PM (#327106) Subject: RE: Norma's new one... From: GUEST,Jane Thanks for your comments! It's interesting to hear the different opinions about Norma! I myself love listening to her (I own all three W:C albums and her first solo album) and after what I've heard so far I guess my Norma collection will expand! |
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26 Oct 00 - 02:32 AM (#327601) Subject: RE: Norma's new one... From: Callie She sings flat. Objective comment. Now if you like that, fine - but it doesn't change the fact. And it has nothing to do with non-traditional harmonies. It just means SINGING FLAT! I myself happen to find it irritating. Especially given that on the album in question, Eliza and Martin are perfectly in tune. Doesn't mean I don't value her art or longevity etc. I just don't like out-of-tune singing. I think it denotes kind of laziness, especially if the singer is well known and regarded. It's kind of like "oh well, this is close enough. No one will complain." C'mon folks, have a close listen to "Lowlands of Holland" and tell me whether she's in tune! Callie |
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26 Oct 00 - 05:20 AM (#327620) Subject: RE: Norma's new one... From: GUEST,Jane ahem...are there two Callies or...??? Didn't you say you enjoyed her singing? |
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26 Oct 00 - 05:33 AM (#327626) Subject: RE: Norma's new one... From: McGrath of Harlow And Mozart did use an awful lot of notes... |
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26 Oct 00 - 09:02 AM (#327680) Subject: RE: Norma's new one... From: Callie Yes, you're quite right. I am schizophrenic. Part of me really likes her music. the other part of me hits the 'forward' button when there's a song where she sings particularly out of tune. Them's the breaks! |