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29 Oct 00 - 05:06 PM (#329889) Subject: Dylan and a bottle of bread From: GUEST,Minnie I've just been listening to yea! heavy and a bottle of bread on the Basement tapes and I got to wondering: what does Dylan mean by "a bottle of bread"- does it have an historical, folk reasonances? Thanks for any info. |
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29 Oct 00 - 08:56 PM (#330045) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: Little Hawk I believe it's merely a humorous spinoff from "Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum". Dylan and the Band were doing a lot of experimental stuff together for the sheer fun of it, and exploring various musical possibilities. Accordingly, a lot of the "Basement Tapes" material is quite odd...what you might call novelty songs...probably composed on the fly, as it were. There are also, however, some very serious and meaninful songs that came out of that period. I doubt there is any deeper significance to the phrase, although some would say that "bread" meant money or whatever...I doubt that it meant anything on a conscious level...on a subconscious level, well, that's another story... |
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29 Oct 00 - 09:00 PM (#330048) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: Clifton53 Perhaps they were imbibing in the tried and true vile black stuff, Guiness Stout, which as the saying goes, "is like drinking bread".
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29 Oct 00 - 09:10 PM (#330057) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: Little Hawk Yup, that's a distinct possibility. I'm sure they were imbibing vigorously from time to time. |
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29 Oct 00 - 09:23 PM (#330069) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: zonahobo I would have to count this as one of Dylan's lesser works. The way things were scraped together into some of those commercializations of music scraps I'm surprised they don't have one of Dylan snorring in a corner. I don't think he took it too seriously either and it was good to know he could goof off like anybody else. I like the idea it is his odd way of refering to beer. I think he liked to string words together sometimes just for the sound of the words and not primarily for the meaning. |
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30 Oct 00 - 02:35 PM (#330493) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: Little Hawk Do you mean the particular song or the whole double album? It would not be surprising if it were one of his lesser works, cos most of it was not intended to be released on commercial recordings in the first place. He was, as you indicate, not taking it too seriously, but just mainly having a good time jamming with the guys in the Band, and I think you're dead right about him "string(ing) words together sometimes just for the sound of the words and not primarily for the meaning". I also regard the album as a lesser work, but with a few jems, and an overall rather appealing sound. Don't Ya Tell Henry... |
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30 Oct 00 - 02:53 PM (#330504) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: catspaw49 Aw poopie.....I was hoping that someone was asking for something about "Clothes Line Saga" and we could have deep and meaningful discussions as to its symbolic meanings. But if anyone has the chords and a midi, I'm sure Hawk could use them. Spaw |
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30 Oct 00 - 08:23 PM (#330786) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: GUEST,Long Distance Operator The Great Bob Dylan. There is none higher. |
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30 Oct 00 - 09:51 PM (#330851) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: zonahobo Hawk..yeh I meant the song. I would probably be one of the fools buying the CD of Dylan snorring. I'm not a Dylan fanatic but he was a big influence on me and a lot of other people. I get a lot of enjoyment out of a lot of his songs. I understand how he grates on some people. Guess I do too....but usually that's their prpblem. |
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31 Oct 00 - 08:06 AM (#331059) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: Whistle Stop Another Dylan fanatic. I personally think the Basement Tapes is a facscinating collection of material, which captures a pivotal moment in time and illustrates Dylan's creative process quite well. A lot of it is playful rather than "deep," which is actually kind of nice -- sometimes we forget how appealing Dylan's playful side could be. I think "Clothes Line Saga" is one of his funniest songs; I've heard it a million times, but it still can make me laugh out loud. Same goes for "Please Mrs. Henry". There are also some pretty profound moments ("Tears of Rage"), and some damn fine songwriting ("Crash On the Levee"). Not all of it rises to the same level, but the best of it shows some real creativity and a very positive communal experience -- the recording itself has an immediacy to it that brings the listener right into the moment. It may not be as consistently brilliant as Blonde on Blonde, but it will always make my list of the top ten Dylan albums. |
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31 Oct 00 - 12:07 PM (#331239) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: GUEST,LDO The Basement Tapes literally changed my life. That's not hyperbole, either. The spell that Dylan and The Band weave is hypnotizing. Greil Marcus wrote an entire book about The BT's, called "Invisible Republic". It's a tremendous read. I think the BT's represent the peak of both Bob and The Band's careers, and that is saying a whole bunch. The ensemble playing is unsurpassed as two titanic musical forces collide. Simply awe-inspiring. |
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31 Oct 00 - 12:12 PM (#331247) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: Little Hawk Interesting comments, LDO...I will see if John Ashe (my friend with huge music collection) has that book. Gotta check it out for myself. |
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01 Nov 00 - 07:05 PM (#332301) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: Robo I'm more inclined to view it with Clifton's perspective, albeit with the slightest affilafigga of twist on the exigesis, to wit: "a sandwich in every beer." Rob-o |
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01 Nov 00 - 07:23 PM (#332318) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: little john cameron Aboot stringin words thegither.Ah've been singin Desolation Row for years.It's a great song tae sing but ah dinnae hae a clue whit it's aboot. ljc |
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01 Nov 00 - 07:36 PM (#332334) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: catspaw49 Hey Whistle Stop.........I think your take on this album is a lot like mine. It definitely is not one of the "lesser works" and has several of my favorite things on it. Did you ever sit at a piano and start banging chords to "Mrs. Henry?" Wonderfully raucous and you don't need to drunk to feel that way! LJC....."Desolation Row" may or may not be beyond interpretation, but there are more individually great lines in that song than any other.
--You asked me how I was doin'....Is that some kind of joke? Damn near every verse has a line in it that just cracks me up. Spaw |
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01 Nov 00 - 07:52 PM (#332344) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: little john cameron Aye Spaw,it's a dandy.It's a very strange song.It says somethin tae me but ah'm jiggered dae know whit it is.Even playin the break on mah moothie is great.There is a wheen o vowels in the words an that makes it easy tae sing but the simpleness o the melody allows ye tae get right intae it withoot worryin if yer flat. ljc |
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01 Nov 00 - 07:59 PM (#332354) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dylan: From: little john cameron The circus is in town here comes the blind commisioner Theve got him in a trance One hand is tied to the tightrope walker The other is in his pants. AN THAT'S NO EVEN TAE MENTION CINDERELLA IN AN IRON VEST. LJC |