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Lyr Req: Lady Mary (closed)

03 Nov 00 - 09:45 AM (#333485)
Subject: anybody know this beauty
From: GUEST,dan evergreen

I once knew a song that started with this verse:

"He came to my garden gate; he came to my cottage door.
His words were few but his looks will linger forevermore.
The look in his sad dark eyes, more tender than words can be.
But I was nothing to him; though he was the world to me."

Do any of you know the rest of this song or anything about it?

Lady Mary in the Digital Tradition


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03 Nov 00 - 09:49 AM (#333488)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: GUEST,Russ

Lady Mary. Carl Sandberg is reported to have called it "The Sad Song." I learned it from a Joan Baez recording. Still one of my favorites after all these years.


03 Nov 00 - 09:59 AM (#333495)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: kendall

you may find it on a tape called "Beginners luck" by catter Kendall


03 Nov 00 - 10:12 AM (#333507)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: dick greenhaus

You can also find it in DigiTrad as Lady Mary. To search, if you don't happen to know the title, enter a phrase from the song in the search box, such as [I was nothing to him] and you'll find it. The square brackets indicate a phrase, rather than disconnected words.


03 Nov 00 - 10:26 AM (#333521)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: SINSULL

Didn't WyoWoman sing this at her concert? Made me weepy.


03 Nov 00 - 11:06 AM (#333561)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: sophocleese

Okay what's happening here? Coincidence? I'm not sure. I just found this song myself on the DT and on Lesley Nielson's Contemplator site. The tunes are different. Clearly variations of each other (or one of the other or both of another). Its a nice song but I don't know where the tune that is on Lesley's site came from.


03 Nov 00 - 11:14 AM (#333571)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: Catrin

Dan,

click here for the words

Yes, its so beautiful. I had been singing it for years before I found this in the DT and realised I had been missing off the last verse. Unforgiveable!

Cheers,

Catrin


03 Nov 00 - 12:48 PM (#333655)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: kendall

Dont feel bad, I realized after it was too late that I left out a verse on my recording!


03 Nov 00 - 01:14 PM (#333691)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: GUEST,Arkie

The song was collected from Missouri singer May Kennedy McCord by, I believe, Vance Randolph and Max Hunter and popularized by Joan Baez. It is certainly a beautiful song. As far as I know Ms McCord did not claim to write it, but there is no other source. The last verse, "How will it be with our souls", is supposedly a later addition to the song. Does anyone know of any other sources or regions in the country where the song was sung in tradition? The only versions I have ever heard were in debt to Randolph, Hunter, and Baez who were in return in debt to May Kennedy McCord.

Nice to see mention of this. Hope the discussion turns up more information.


03 Nov 00 - 01:39 PM (#333705)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: GUEST,Russ

I have no additional info about the source of the song, BUT it sounds Victorian and composed to me.


03 Nov 00 - 02:44 PM (#333763)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: kendall

Dont know who wrote it, but, I got it from Kathy Barton on her tape "On a day like today" Folk Legacy of course.


03 Nov 00 - 03:22 PM (#333818)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: GUEST,Barry T not at home

Lyrics and my midi are over here.

I first heard this song performed by the New Seekers (superb rendition by the way). In trying to find the genealogy for the tune I, too, was surprised to find that it had an American origin. As I recall, it was collected in Kentucky.


03 Nov 00 - 08:17 PM (#334107)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: bbc

Ah, kendall, when we heard it on your "Beginner's Luck" cassette, we knew we'd heard it elsewhere. We searched our collection till we found it on Cathy Barton & Dave Para's recording. (We recently also heard them sing it in concert--nice!) They call it "Palace Grand" but their liner notes say it is also called "Lady Mary" & "The Sad Song." They say it is "often associated w/ Mrs. May Kennedy McCord, a popular Ozarks ballad singer who learned many of her songs from her friends & family in Galena, Missouri." They learned it from Kay Blair of Mountain View, Arkansas. Lovely song!

bbc


03 Nov 00 - 08:27 PM (#334117)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: WyoWoman

This IS cosmic. I just did it on my Mudcat concert. I've loved it for a long time and knew the Hunter/Baez/McCord connection, but nothing more.

ww


03 Nov 00 - 08:34 PM (#334123)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: Mary in Kentucky

Yes WW, my first hearing of it that I know of, was your beautiful rendition at the Mudcat Concert. I'll always remember that one!


03 Nov 00 - 11:11 PM (#334220)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: Peter Kasin

I misread the thread title. I thought you were asking if anyone knows p.j. Yeah, her and Dave are good friends. Why, I was over at their house this last......oh, yeah, that's not what this thread's about. Sorry.


04 Nov 00 - 11:23 AM (#334431)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: Hollowfox

Evelyn Beesr did it on one of the Beers Family recordings, Columbia Records, pre-1970.


04 Nov 00 - 06:01 PM (#334690)
Subject: RE: anybody know this beauty
From: WyoWoman

F'anks, Mary. I actually learned to fingerpick my guitar for that one ... Whoo-hoo!

And C.R., I think P.J. should plant a big, smooshy kiss right on the top of your head for that. Tell'er I said so.

ww


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