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underneath the Sphinx

16 Nov 00 - 03:09 PM (#341877)
Subject: underneath the Sphinx
From: little john cameron

Ground-Penetrating Radar In Egypt By Paul White

"...the SIRA radar was deployed in Egypt as early as 1978, mapping an extraordinary subterranean complex beneath the Egyptian pyramids. At a recent meeting in Australia, one of the key scientists on the Giza project, Dr. Jim Hurtak, showed film footage of work in progress called, CHAMBERS OF THE DEEP, due to be released at the end of the century. The film reveals the discovery of a vast megalithic metropolis, 15,000 years old, reaching several levels below the Giza plateau. Complete with hydraulic underground waterways, the film shows massive chambers, the proportions of our largest cathedrals, with enormous statues, the size of the Valley of the Nile, carved in-situ."


16 Nov 00 - 03:14 PM (#341885)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: little john cameron

Ah tried tae pit the url for this up but ah cannae dae it somehow.If ye want me tae post the article aboot it then ah will.It is very interestin.It also mentions whit ah wis bletherin aboot a while ago on the subject o vibration.It is a bit on the lang side bit ah'll copy it if ye want. ljc


16 Nov 00 - 04:01 PM (#341923)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: MMario

undeground cities?


16 Nov 00 - 04:11 PM (#341927)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: Liz the Squeak

Huge kitty litter box??

LTS


16 Nov 00 - 04:11 PM (#341928)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: little john cameron

Thanks Mario,that's the article tho the page is different.ljc


16 Nov 00 - 04:52 PM (#341949)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: annamill

LJC, I'm sorry to sound suspicious, but I went to the sight and followed the link back to the original page and I don't think this is a reliable sight for info. Maybe we can verify this info elswhere? It would be fascinating if it's true. It made for fun reading anyway.

Love, annamill


16 Nov 00 - 05:20 PM (#341965)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: little john cameron

That link isnae the ane a got the article fae.Ah did the same as you an ah'm no to struck on the ither stuff.The ane a wanted has a video on undersea ruins in the pacific as weel.Ah still think there is somethin tae this stuff bit bein a man o little brain ah get a bit puggled wi it aw. ljc


16 Nov 00 - 05:55 PM (#341993)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: kendall

Mark my words, under the Sphynx there is a room which contains the answers to thing like, how did a stone age society build the pyramids.There is a connection to Atlantis and thats where they got the technology


16 Nov 00 - 06:16 PM (#342006)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: Jim the Bart

WOW!!!Thanks for the information little john cameron and for the link MMario. This is real cool stuff.

Bart


17 Nov 00 - 12:02 AM (#342167)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: GUEST,Whitewing

Thank you Little John and MMario, very interesting indeed! In the first half of the last century, Edgar Cayce's readings predicted the records of Atlantis would be found in the paw of the Sphinx, in hidden chambers.
Just when they would be found is a bit vague, but we are in the area of many of his predictions now, and many have already happened. It's an exciting time to be on the Earth. We will see many great changes.
By the way, he also predicted when the Dead Sea Scrolls would be found, and they were.

Regards, ww


17 Nov 00 - 06:54 AM (#342240)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock

Not wishing to play the archaeological pedant but - Atlantis...??!! HMMMMMM! *BG* But it's not my era (the excuse of the non-committal historian), although we should remember that with 21st century condescension we often view the civilisations who have lived before us as being far more basic and far less intelligence, when in actuality they just worked things out in different ways and what they lacked in technology they made up for in skill.


17 Nov 00 - 07:22 AM (#342249)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: Grab

I don't know how true this is. Certainly they did scan Egypt with ground-penetrating radar; many atlases have pictures of the result, showing a relief map of the Nile tributaries and delta, which looks rather impressive. The reason for doing it though was as a demonstration to the Russians that they could detect underground nuclear silos.

I'd be interested to see what he uses for proof for this. Most of us are (rightly) sceptical of such claims. Where are the records of this archaeological expedition? Who's doing it? If it's been so successful, why hasn't it made the papers (or is this a - yawn - top-level conspiracy)?

I have to say, I find this whole site more funny (and slightly sad) than I do factual. Check out the rest of the site for some seriously far-out theories - not least of which is his suggestion that the Earth is actually hollow and contains a central sun at its core. Nice idea - but (a) you'd never get a sun that small due to the mass required for spontaneous nuclear fusion; (b) even if you did, it would be sigificantly denser than the surrounding hollow sphere so the centre of gravity would be at the centre of the sun; (c) if the central sun is now the centre of gravity of the planet, water will still flood into through the "Arctic Hole"; and finally (d) if the Earth moved even very slightly from true around this central sun (eg. the momentum from someone jumping up and down), gravity would continue to drag the hollow sphere towards the sun (or vice versa if you take his assumption that the internal sun is much lighter than the Earth), and the two would impact - this is called a "high point balance" situation, similar to trying to balance a chair on its 2 back legs. Sorry, but no.

I'm not going to go as far as saying he's an outright whacko - maybe there are some facts in there worth considering - but we're in serious suspension-of-disbelief-and-laws-of-physics territory here.

Grab.


17 Nov 00 - 07:46 AM (#342257)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: McGrath of Harlow

Maybe this is little john's missing link?


17 Nov 00 - 03:09 PM (#342558)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: little john cameron

http://www.lauralee.com/japan.htm

Here's some mair strange stuff.Wi aw the anomalies that are surfacin these days ah think there is mair tae this than meets the een. ljc


17 Nov 00 - 04:51 PM (#342631)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: Bill D

people have been building stuff for thousands of years...sometimes the stuff gets buried, broken or flooded. All it says is that archeologists still have job security and that we have more to learn about human history....Are there any "Lost" civilizations to find? ...a weak 'maybe'...Will we FINALLY find the evidence for ancient semi/divine beings from the stars who did wondrous things with anti-gravity and guided our entire race at it's beginnings?????....ummmmmmm...call me when you got artifacts.


17 Nov 00 - 08:04 PM (#342721)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: little john cameron

Try here Bill

http://www.mm2000.nu/sphinxb.html


17 Nov 00 - 10:37 PM (#342772)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: Bill D

*smile*...don't see any artifacts there. I see references to 'some' archeological discoveries, mixed with some legends, apocryphal writings, creative speculations and big 'what ifs'......it is a very interesting way of writing--point out some obvious truths and accepted 'facts' and then slip in some UN-accepted quasi-fact as being 'similar'.....until belief and fact are sort of mushed together so well that it is tempting to just surrender and nod in agreement. I wish it were that easy.


17 Nov 00 - 11:04 PM (#342793)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: Timehiker

The only thing underneath the Sphinx is the sphinxter.

Take care, Timehiker


19 Nov 00 - 02:36 PM (#343514)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: Penny S.

The really curious thing about this sort of story is that the Ancient Egyptians were telling them, too. Since a good friend has borrowed my collection of original source texts in translation, I can't give more detail, but when Khufu wanted to build the pyramids, he had heard that there were underground tunnels, and sent for someone who might know the secret. But he kept what they told him secret, too!

The theories of some modern writers,
Are stranger than anyone thinks,
At the height of the silly season,
They set off to measure the sphinx.

Adapted from a parody of something a nice girl like me wouldn't know, by the above mentioned friend.

Penny


19 Nov 00 - 07:38 PM (#343652)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: Sourdough

If you are looking for "Science as Entertainment" or if you are interested in stretching your mind with a series of "What Ifs", you might find the site interesting. If you are looking for whether or not people dug hundreds of miles of tunnels, this is not the place to find a definitive answer. There are no links to sites where you can see corroborating results. If the ideas here fit your prejudices, you can feel reassured but anyone with a sense of how to go about the often uncomfortable business of critical thinking realizes that when you find new information that reinforces the position you already hold or one that you find reassuring, you need to question it all the more. Unfortunately, at this point, without further information, this item fails that test. It seems too much like an earlier disappointment, von Daniken.

I once had the opportunity to work with the inventor of sidescan sonar which allows equipment to "see" underground and I know something about its potential. When I read thi "Story", I was initially excited. It seemed possible that such exploration could have been done and perhaps it was even kept secret until it became necessary to expose it due to a nuclear weapons treat negotiation but as I read in, it set off more warnings and alarm bells. Too many references to fringe beliefs in a search for credibility rather than to sources that would be transfixed by this sort of information. Careers could be built on this, an overthrow of what was once common belief. THe person who could make a case that would convince even a few of the more open-minded peole working in this fieldwoud find he had opened floodgates in the desert) of ideas. I hope there is some truthto this story but until I l;earn more I remain

(A disappointed)Sourdough


19 Nov 00 - 09:44 PM (#343737)
Subject: RE: underneath the Sphinx
From: little john cameron

Noo guys ah never said ah believed it.Ah find this stuff very interestin.Wid yer grannie hae believed we wid pit a man on the moon?
Anyway here's some mair fur yer perusal. ljc

http://www.are-cayce.com/index.html