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24 Nov 00 - 12:19 AM (#345896) Subject: For my mother From: GUEST,CarolC (at her parent's house in Wheaton) My mom just died. She had a heart attack. She had a good Thanksgiving. Carol |
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24 Nov 00 - 12:23 AM (#345897) Subject: RE: For my mother From: GUEST,flattop Sorry to hear that Carol. Here I'm trying to joke around with you on your song thread. Sorry. |
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24 Nov 00 - 12:25 AM (#345898) Subject: RE: For my mother From: GUEST,Carol Please don't stop joking flattop. |
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24 Nov 00 - 12:25 AM (#345899) Subject: RE: For my mother From: SINSULL Oh Carol. I'm sorry. Mary |
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24 Nov 00 - 12:26 AM (#345900) Subject: RE: For my mother From: CamiSu Oh Carol! I am so sorry for you and your family, but hold tight to that fact that she had a good Thanksgiving, and had you around for her last day. Here's a long quiet hug, and some tears. CamiSu |
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24 Nov 00 - 12:29 AM (#345903) Subject: RE: For my mother From: catspaw49 Geeziz Carol, I don't know what to say but I am so sorry. Words mean so very little, but know that you are loved by many in this odd place and I send you the biggest of Spaw's hugs. Pat |
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24 Nov 00 - 12:30 AM (#345904) Subject: RE: For my mother From: katlaughing Carol, I am so sorry. If there is anything we can do to help, please let us know. When my mom died unexpectedly, the Mudcatters really helped me through the first few days, esp., as I was in a state of shock and grief. Holding you in light, love and hugs, kat |
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24 Nov 00 - 12:31 AM (#345905) Subject: RE: For my mother From: GUEST,flattop I'll stop for tonight Carol. If you feel like telling us anything about your mother, it's your thread. PM me when you get home if you want to talk privately. |
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24 Nov 00 - 12:37 AM (#345906) Subject: RE: For my mother From: DonMeixner Carol, I wish I could help you in this time. Yout family will pull you and each other through. My deepest sympathies. Don |
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24 Nov 00 - 12:58 AM (#345913) Subject: RE: For my mother From: campfire I'm so sorry, Carol. campfire |
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24 Nov 00 - 01:08 AM (#345918) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Seamus Kennedy Carol, my deepest sympathy and condolences. Seamus |
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24 Nov 00 - 01:14 AM (#345919) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Fin Carol, My prayers are with you and your family. May God give you the strength to support each other through this time of grief. Fin |
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24 Nov 00 - 01:29 AM (#345923) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Bugsy Carol, When I lost my father, rather suddenly a few years ago, A friend sent me the following. I found it a great source of strength and comfort. I hope it will do the same for you, and help you come to terms with your own loss.
Death Is Nothing At All
With deepest sympathy
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24 Nov 00 - 01:40 AM (#345926) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Escamillo I'm sure that the warmest feelings of all your friends in this place are now with you, Carol. Un abrazo - Andrés |
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24 Nov 00 - 01:56 AM (#345927) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Bugsy Carol, When I lost my father, rather suddenly a few years ago, A friend sent me the following. I found it a great source of strength and comfort. I hope it will do the same for you, and help you come to terms with your own loss.
Death Is Nothing At All
Death is nothing at all; I have only slipped away into the next room. Whatever we were to each other, that we still are. Call me by my old familiar name, wear no forced air of solemnity or sorrow; life means all that it ever meant. Why should I be out of mind only because I am out of sight? I am waiting for you for an interval, somewhere very near, just around the corner. All is well,
With deepest sympathy Bugsy |
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24 Nov 00 - 02:01 AM (#345930) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Ebbie Oh, Carol, I am so sorry. With deepest sympathy, Ebbie |
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24 Nov 00 - 02:15 AM (#345933) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Lyrical Lady Oh, Dear Carol ... my thoughts are with you at this difficult time. Regards ...Barb |
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24 Nov 00 - 02:24 AM (#345934) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Barry T I, too, received some words that comforted me just last year. Perhaps they'll help even if in a small way. A Matter of Perspective I am standing on the seashore A ship spreads her sails to the morning breeze And starts for the ocean I stand watching her until she fades on the horizon And someone at my side says "She is gone." Gone where? The loss of sight is in "me", not in "her" Just at the moment when someone says "She is gone" There are others who are watching her coming Others' voices take up the glad shout, "Here she comes!" And that is dying. |
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24 Nov 00 - 02:46 AM (#345935) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Night Owl my deepest sympathies to you Carol....and our arms for hugging you and our shoulders to cry on and our hearts to sing and our ears to listen if you want to talk. Here in this place called Mudcats...this incredible place....Barry T. that image you shared stays with me since I first heard the words at my brother's funeral. Thanks from me too, for posting it. |
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24 Nov 00 - 03:14 AM (#345939) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Jon Freeman I'm sorry Carol. Jon |
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24 Nov 00 - 03:32 AM (#345942) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Michael in Swansea Deepest sympathies. May she rest in peace. Mike |
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24 Nov 00 - 03:37 AM (#345943) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Amergin Oh god, Carol....I am so sorry....and here I was feeling sorry for myself because I had to work...I don't really know what to say but that you and yours are in my thoughts. Amergin |
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24 Nov 00 - 03:45 AM (#345946) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Patrish(inactive) I am so sorry Carol, all sorts of feelings and thoughts are going through my head, none of them particularly constructive. My Mum died three years ago, I can remember clearly the emptiness like a physical pain, also how unreal the whole thing was. I wish there was something I could do or say to make you hurt less, I can only tell you that my thoughts are with you and your family love Patrish xx |
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24 Nov 00 - 03:49 AM (#345948) Subject: RE: For my mother From: skarpi Carol I am sorry to hear about your Mother. Be strong I wish I coult give you a hug......... I do it in my mind and send it over to you from Iceland, all the best skarpi Iceland. |
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24 Nov 00 - 04:46 AM (#345952) Subject: RE: For my mother From: GUEST,micca at work Carol, many good thoughts and comforting hugs and ears to listen and warm comforting thoughts to you from here, and a good Thanksgiving at our going is not a bad way to go,is it??..with deepest sympathy..Micca |
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24 Nov 00 - 05:11 AM (#345954) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Banjer Carol, so sorry to hear of your loss, our condolences go to you and yours. Banjer |
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24 Nov 00 - 05:16 AM (#345955) Subject: RE: For my mother From: mkebenn Carol, my heart is with you. Mike Bennett |
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24 Nov 00 - 05:47 AM (#345963) Subject: RE: For my mother From: GUEST,Carol Thanks everybody. Your kind and loving words mean the world to me. I think my mother died exactly as she would have wanted to. She had spent a full day with her whole family around her. She even made sure that a group photo was taken. Maybe on some level she knew she was about to leave, and she wanted us all to have something to remember our last day with her. I feel at peace with my part in her passing. Everyone except my father, my son, and I had left by the time my father realized she was in distress. I held her while my father waited outside for the ambulance. She died on the way to the hospital, so she didn't have to suffer for too long. I feel that I was lucky to have the opportunity to be there for her at the end of her life, and I feel good that she didn't have to feel alone during the whole ordeal. I waited at the house while my father went to the hospital. While I was waiting for word of her condition, I felt her spirit come to me. I knew deep down that she had probably passed. I could feel that she was happy. I think she lived the life she wanted, and she left this life in the way she would have wanted. We can't ask for much more than that, can we? I think she's going to hang around for a while because she's too stubborn to leave before the funeral. Then I think she's going to move on to new adventures. More power to her. Happy trails, Mom. See you on the other side. Carol
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24 Nov 00 - 06:12 AM (#345966) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Little Neophyte Carol I am sorry to hear about you mom. That sure was a magical moment you had with her spirit. I admire your insight and wisdom about her passing, shows much about your perceptive nature. You must have had a very loving, close relationship with your mom. Little Neo |
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24 Nov 00 - 08:46 AM (#346008) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Dave (the ancient mariner) My sincere condolences. Yours, Aye. Dave |
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24 Nov 00 - 08:49 AM (#346010) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Morticia Dearest Carol, my very best love to you and to your family.We're all with you, just reach out. much love Terri |
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24 Nov 00 - 10:00 AM (#346045) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Margaret V Carol, I'm so sorry to hear about your mother. If she was anything like mine, then having her family surrounding her before and at the time of her death was probably just the way she would have wanted to go. I'm glad you could be there with her. Peace and strength to you and your family. Margaret |
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24 Nov 00 - 10:06 AM (#346048) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Jeri Carol, it sounds almost as if she picked the time she wanted to say goodbye. We all have to leave sometime, and she left while the glow of the day still lingered. My thoughts are with you and your father. |
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24 Nov 00 - 11:49 AM (#346101) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Noreen Lots of warm thoughts, sympathy and hugs for you and your family, Carol. With love, Noreen xxx |
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24 Nov 00 - 11:54 AM (#346104) Subject: RE: For my mother From: LR Mole Sincere sympathies. Remember that "light" means less substantial, but also more illuminated. They all leave us lighter when they pass. LRM |
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24 Nov 00 - 12:04 PM (#346109) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Wavestar My sympathies, Carol - I'm sorry to hear that, but glad you're at peace, and so it she. -Jessica |
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24 Nov 00 - 01:02 PM (#346126) Subject: RE: For my mother From: sophocleese Deepest sympathies Carol C. I'm glad for you and her that you were there with her at the end. |
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24 Nov 00 - 05:56 PM (#346223) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Mary in Kentucky Carol, I'm sending my love and sympathy. Mary |
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24 Nov 00 - 06:20 PM (#346228) Subject: RE: For my mother From: DougR So sorry, CarolC. DougR |
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24 Nov 00 - 06:38 PM (#346234) Subject: RE: For my mother From: GUEST,Mickey191 My thoughts and prayers are with you and yours Carol. Time does help to heal the wound. God bless. Mickey191 |
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24 Nov 00 - 07:50 PM (#346286) Subject: RE: For my mother From: CarolC Thanks, all of you beautiful, beautiful, people. Carol |
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24 Nov 00 - 08:00 PM (#346291) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Alice Carol, I am so sorry. Love and deepest sympathy to you and your family at this time. - Alice |
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24 Nov 00 - 08:26 PM (#346310) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Sorcha Oh Carol.....I have been ignoring this. I thought it was some song someone wanted for their mom.........I guess, though, that you do want songs for your Mom. How about "Songs My Mother Taught Me".
It's hard, it's so hard. We get older and at the same time they get older, even if it is difficult to believe. She will be with you always, in your memory.
Perhaps it is not Correct to say this, but there is a case to be made for passing suddenly. My mom "lingered" for at least 3 months. Trust me, lingering is not fun either. Not for anyone. At least, you had a very good last day with her. I am so very glad you were able to be with her, and hold her in your arms at the end. That will mean so much to you in years to come.
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24 Nov 00 - 09:33 PM (#346341) Subject: RE: For my mother From: IvanB Carol, I'm so sorry for your loss, but I'm glad your mother could have her family with her to celebrate Thanksgiving. May all the warmth from your fellow Mudcatters support you through these next hard days as you prepare to release your mother for her next adventure. Ivan |
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24 Nov 00 - 10:52 PM (#346369) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Dave Swan All our warm best wishes to you. Dave & Pam |
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24 Nov 00 - 11:02 PM (#346374) Subject: RE: For my mother From: kendall Dear Carol..cling to the thought that she did not DIE..she went home. |
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24 Nov 00 - 11:11 PM (#346376) Subject: RE: For my mother From: alison Carol I am so sorry to hear about your mum...... my prayers & thoughts are with you and your family.... love and a big hug alison |
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24 Nov 00 - 11:14 PM (#346377) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Troll Carol, I wish I had the gift of words to write something profound that would make you feel better. I don't.My heart goes out to you and I pray that the pain of your loss will be replaced by good memories of your mother. She will always be with you in your memories. troll |
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24 Nov 00 - 11:58 PM (#346391) Subject: RE: For my mother From: mousethief I'm so sorry, Carol. Thoughts and hugs and prayers. Alex |
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25 Nov 00 - 10:48 AM (#346534) Subject: RE: For my mother From: GUEST,Reta Carol, how very blessed your mom must have felt to have such a loving and wise daughter. You and yours are in my prayers. Reta |
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25 Nov 00 - 11:12 AM (#346542) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Naemanson I'm so sorry to hear of your news. Please accept my sincere sympathy and wishes for strength. |
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25 Nov 00 - 12:30 PM (#346589) Subject: RE: For my mother From: GUEST,Sheila Dear Carol,Some words that were a comfort to me: Mourn not too long that she is gone but rejoice forever that she was." With sympathy, Sheila |
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25 Nov 00 - 01:05 PM (#346604) Subject: RE: For my mother From: BigDaddy Warmest regards and sympathy from one who has been there. My mom departed on Thanksgiving Day, 1995. |
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25 Nov 00 - 02:21 PM (#346642) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Robo Been there, Carol, and know what you must be going through. Both my folks are gone -- and yet, they aren't, not at all. All our best to you and yours. --Rob-o |
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25 Nov 00 - 04:18 PM (#346689) Subject: RE: For my mother From: RocketMan Carol, My thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family. Your second note brought back memories as my father passed away suddenly 6 years ago just after Christmas. I was lucky to be home visiting and had a nice time together. We were in the area when he suffered a heart attack. He was gone by the time we got there. He didn't suffer long and we had no unfinished business between us. RMan
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25 Nov 00 - 06:32 PM (#346750) Subject: RE: For my mother From: KT CarolC, I am so, so sorry. May there be some measure of comfort for you in knowing that so many of us here, are carrying you in our hearts.....Sending much love to you over the miles.....KT
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25 Nov 00 - 06:48 PM (#346763) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Cobble 'For now there is another star in the heavens'. our thoughts are with you. Brian +margaret. |
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26 Nov 00 - 12:07 PM (#346887) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Catrin Carol - My thought are with you. Catrin |
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26 Nov 00 - 09:19 PM (#346959) Subject: RE: For my mother From: MMario Carol - I just read this having been a way a few days- my thoughts and prayers are with you and your family. |
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27 Nov 00 - 03:14 PM (#347192) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Kim C Oh Carol. I have just been there too, since I lost my father in August. I miss him very much. Love and hugs to you and yours and please feel free to send a PM if you want to talk. Kim |
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27 Nov 00 - 05:05 PM (#347258) Subject: RE: For my mother From: AllisonA(Animaterra) I haven't been able to get on most of the weekend, so let me add my belated hugs and love, Carol. |
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28 Nov 00 - 12:22 AM (#347431) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Ebbie How are you doing, Carol? It's a rough one- not something you'd wish on your worst enemy, but somehow we all muddle through. Nurture yourself. Every day you make it through is another day survived. Ebbie |
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28 Nov 00 - 12:12 PM (#347539) Subject: RE: For my mother From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Carol, I'm sorry to hear that. Best wishes to you and all your family. |
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28 Nov 00 - 04:38 PM (#347772) Subject: RE: For my mother From: Little Hawk Hello Carol, I just heard last night about your mother...from flattop at song circle. I had not been on Mudcat much for the past 2 weeks. I want to send my condolences and love. I honestly don't believe that anyone ever dies, but I know that people move on, and we don't see them for awhile, and that can be hard to take. I've had dear friends who either passed on or simply vanished to places unknown, and I sure miss them sometimes. I send you a wave of the hawk's wings and the best thoughts and prayers I can muster. May you be well, George |
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01 Dec 00 - 04:45 AM (#349469) Subject: RE: For my mother From: CarolC I want to add one more post to this thread before I let it go. Thank you, everyone, for your words and your kind and loving support. They have helped me more than I can tell you. I'm doing pretty well. The Mudcat is providing me with many opportunities to laugh and enjoy myself despite the events of the last week. I think it would be fitting to use this thread to tell people something that is very important for women and their loved ones to know. Apparently, most people are unaware of this... In women, pain in the lower back can be an indication of heart problems. My mother had been complaining of lower back pain for a week or two before her heart attack. While the heart attack was progressing, she was complaining of severe pain in her lower back. No one thought to be concerned about her heart because the pain was in her lower back. She thought she had hurt her back lifting grandchildren. She had been having these symptoms for a couple of hours before my father realized she needed medical attention because at first, they progressed gradually. By the time he realized she needed medical help, her symptoms had begun to progress very rapidly. If we had known about the lower back pain symptom, she might have recieved medical attention in time to save her life. The most severe symptoms that she reported as long as she was able to talk, were lower back pain and difficulty breathing. This doesn't sound anything like what we usually think of when we hear the term "heart attack". Apparently, women experience heart attacks differently than men. I think this is important for everybody to know. Love to all, Carol |