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06 Dec 00 - 09:26 PM (#352755) Subject: Puzzles From: Allan C. The thread, "Puzzle: Where is the other dollar?" got me to thinking about how much I enjoy such puzzles. While most puzzles have at some point made their way into print, I suspect quite a few were passed on in true folk tradition. For instance, I learned "The fox, the goose and the grain" puzzle from my father and that many years passed before I ever saw it in print. I wonder if you folks can think of any that you learned by way of mouth. My very favorite one was told to me by a co-worker many years ago when we both were trying to stay awake during a night shift. I once told it to a patient of mine who was temporarily paralyzed from the neck down and needed something to do. This one kept her occupied for nearly a week. Oh, but before I tell it to you and before others add theirs, there is a rule of puzzle etiquitte: If you already know the solution to the puzzle, please keep it to yourself. If you think you have figured it out on your own, feel free to post. The Gardener The gardener was summoned by the owner of a fine estate. The owner told the gardener that ten new shrubs had been purchased and needed planting. He then explained exactly what he had in mind. "I want you to plant all ten shrubs. You are to plant only five shrubs per row and there are to be exactly five rows." The gardener hesitated for a moment. Then a smile lit his face and he said, "I'll have them in the ground just as you describe, sir, no later than sundown." How did the gardener keep his word? |
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06 Dec 00 - 09:28 PM (#352756) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Sorcha 5 rows of 2 shrubs each? I suppose that is too easy, huh? |
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06 Dec 00 - 09:31 PM (#352759) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Read it again, Sorcha. |
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06 Dec 00 - 09:37 PM (#352762) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jeri Uh...plant two rows of 5 shrubs each behind the 5 rows of 3 shrubs each that are already planted? |
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06 Dec 00 - 09:40 PM (#352764) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Dang, Jeri, that's right clever; but not the answer. |
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06 Dec 00 - 09:44 PM (#352766) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Little Neophyte Allan, would you mind PMing me with the answer. My brain came without a logical component. Little Neo |
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06 Dec 00 - 09:45 PM (#352767) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Gladly |
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06 Dec 00 - 09:47 PM (#352770) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: katlaughing Um...the "only" also could mean "up to five per row" so he doesn't have to plant more than two; or, like Jeri said, he is adding to some already established rows? And, why is sundown so important? Sheesh! Enquiring minds want to know!!**BG** |
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06 Dec 00 - 09:51 PM (#352774) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Sundown has nothing to do with it. Five shrubs and five in each row, period. |
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06 Dec 00 - 09:53 PM (#352775) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Little Neophyte If anyone wants the answer for a $1.00 fee I will tell you. PM me for further information. :)Little Neo |
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06 Dec 00 - 09:56 PM (#352778) Subject: EEEK! From: Allan C. Gadzooks! I blew it, people. It is as follows: Ten shrubs Five rows FOUR in each row! Please forgive me. I meant no harm. Honest. |
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06 Dec 00 - 10:01 PM (#352781) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jeri X X X X X X X X X X ????? |
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06 Dec 00 - 10:01 PM (#352783) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Sorcha SEE!! SEE! My answer had to be right for the ORIGINAL question, huh, Allan? No other way to do it........or is there............duh, I hate these things. But they get to me just the same. |
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06 Dec 00 - 10:06 PM (#352788) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: katlaughing Split/divide the shrubs in half, thus giving you twenty shrubs, four per row, five rows. |
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06 Dec 00 - 10:10 PM (#352791) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Creative, kat. Not the winner, though. |
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06 Dec 00 - 10:14 PM (#352793) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Sorcha A pyramid? Can't do the html for it...........I think I can see it in my head........ |
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06 Dec 00 - 10:22 PM (#352795) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Jeri, I can't tell what you were trying to construct; but I am fairly certain you were on the wrong track. Both of your answers are very inventive, Sorcha; but we still have no winner. I figured out this one in about a minute. But once I tell you how I arrived at my answer, you'll know it wasn't because I am especially smart. Well, maybe. |
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06 Dec 00 - 10:41 PM (#352804) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Margo A Pentagram! |
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06 Dec 00 - 10:44 PM (#352806) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jon Freeman Please put me out of my misery soon Allan. I can't solve it and it is driving me nuts! Jon |
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06 Dec 00 - 10:47 PM (#352808) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Margo I just told you the answer! Draw a pentagram and put a shrub in every crossing and corner!! |
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06 Dec 00 - 10:52 PM (#352812) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Good job, Margo!!! When I was trying to solve this puzzle I was almost totally stumped. Nothing logical seemed probable. Then I decided that nothing short of magic could possibly make it happen. My next thought? Pentagram. Now, does anyone else have a puzzle to share? |
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06 Dec 00 - 11:07 PM (#352823) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Sorcha Ahhhhhh, I knew it had to be a geometric figure of some kind---Mr. couldn't get it either.......good one Allan. |
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06 Dec 00 - 11:24 PM (#352833) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Little Neophyte Wait a second, Margo you figured it out too fast. I didn't have a chance to make any money. LN |
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06 Dec 00 - 11:34 PM (#352841) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Margo I looooove puzzles. And the New York Times crossword. But I don't do it in ink. I'm not that good. |
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06 Dec 00 - 11:45 PM (#352846) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Ebbie I too like puzzles but I rarely solve them, it seems. I like word puzzles really well- and I have a request: How about putting up a number of puzzles that don't require diagrams or drawings? A number of times a year I send out a 10-12 page newsletter to a mailing list of currently 65 people. I would welcome puzzles and riddles, vignettes and inspirational thoughts or whatever to include in it. My next newsletter goes out in the week between Christmas and New Year's, so there's still plenty of time. Anybody? :) Ebbie |
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06 Dec 00 - 11:47 PM (#352847) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Okay, while you are trying to remember one to share, here's another one: In your cellar there are three light switches in the OFF position. Each switch controls 1 of 3 light bulbs on floor above. You may move any of the switches but you may only go upstairs to inspect the bulbs one time. How can you determine the switch for each bulb with one inspection?? BTW, I am signing off for the night. My bet is that someone will figure out a good answer by the time the sun rises in West Virginia. Seeya then. |
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07 Dec 00 - 12:06 AM (#352860) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Margo Here's how it's done: You turn one light on, and wait a few minutes. Then you turn that one off, and turn a second light on. You immediately go up, and the hot bulb is for the first switch you flipped, the one that's on is for the current one switched on, and the cold one is for the switch that hasn't been used yet. Right? Margo |
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07 Dec 00 - 07:18 AM (#352964) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Absolutely right, Margo! Does anyone know another? |
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07 Dec 00 - 08:22 AM (#352978) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: catspaw49 Yeah.....How did the bearded guy wind up dead in West Virginia? Allan you @*&%^#&$........Your first one I knew from a long time back, but as I read it, I thought, "HEY!! Wait a minute....THIS has a new twist!!! Hmmmmm.....5 in 5? Lessee........" Soooooooo....Knowing it must be related to the other, I have sat here for about 30 minutes doing geometric figures to make it fit. Then I find out you have screwed the pooch and its the one I knew all along. I'm coming for you Allan........Be afraid...Be VERY afraid............... Spaw |
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07 Dec 00 - 08:28 AM (#352981) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: SINSULL Get a copy of Games Magazine. I had to cancel my subscription because it interfered with every other aspect of my life. |
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07 Dec 00 - 08:36 AM (#352986) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: DonMeixner Some one wanna explain this to me. The best I can get is five rows of four unless there is another pentagram I haven't met yet. But then I am a little dense at times too. :-) 1 2 6 7 3 8 9 10 4 5 Don |
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07 Dec 00 - 08:38 AM (#352988) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. SINSULL, I suppose I could do that; but I was more interested in learning of puzzles which were handed down in more-or-less the folk tradition. |
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07 Dec 00 - 08:38 AM (#352989) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: DonMeixner The numbers indicated locations the points and intercections of a 5 point star. One again graphics are lost on Mudcat, |
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07 Dec 00 - 08:42 AM (#352991) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Don, please re-read the above where I acknowledged my screw-up. |
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07 Dec 00 - 08:43 AM (#352992) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jeri Don, five rows of four is what you were supposed to find. Allan goofed up the original question - read down a bit. Get 'im, Spaw!!!!! |
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07 Dec 00 - 09:05 AM (#353005) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: catspaw49 There seem to be several of us coming for you Allan.............. Spaw |
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07 Dec 00 - 09:52 AM (#353028) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Fortunately, I will be elsewhere attending a Chr..Holid...Seaso...er..uh...Yule? party with my trueluv. But I can't blame you. I just can't stand it when someone can't tell a joke or a puzzle properly. Now, does someone else have one they can tell properly? |
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07 Dec 00 - 10:09 AM (#353033) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Gary T I'll give it a try. This one also uses graphics, but I'll hope my verbal description is clear enough so you can follow along at home. Lay out a simple grid of nine dots in three by three pattern. This will be a square, three dots across, three dots down, one dot in the center, which could be construed to composed of four squares (this second description is just to help clarify, it's a basic 3x3 grid). With your pencil, draw four connected line segments so that each dot has a line through it. You need to make angles (turn corners) between the four segments, but they must be connected, a continuous line without lifting the pencil. Obviously the line is not straight, as it has folds (angles) in it, but each of the four segments must be straight. If you then unfolded the line, you would have nine dots on the line, like a string of pearls. The line may cross over itself. I hope that's clear. Have fun! |
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07 Dec 00 - 10:19 AM (#353039) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Patrish(inactive) Can you put ten pennies into the three glasses in such a way that each glass contains an odd number of pennies? Patrish |
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07 Dec 00 - 10:28 AM (#353044) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Gary T Patrish, I would put 3 pennies into glass A, and set it aside. Then I would put 4 pennies into glass B, and 3 pennies into glass C. I would then put glass C into glass B. Glass B would then hold 7 pennies (and glass C). Is that it? |
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07 Dec 00 - 10:32 AM (#353047) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Patrish(inactive) You clever clogs Gary! Yes, and it only took you 9 Minutes to work it out. Patrish |
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07 Dec 00 - 10:50 AM (#353055) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jeri Gary - let's see if I can explain it, because I sure can't draw it. Let's give the dots numbers:
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1.Draw a line that goes from 1, passes through 5 and stops at 9 You have lines that look like an arrow pointing to the lower right hand corner. |
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07 Dec 00 - 10:56 AM (#353058) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Mrrzy Actually the shrub one was on Car Talk the other day (speaks the Car Talk veteran) so I didn't post, aren't I nice, since I had just heard the answer. I love these kinds of things. When I was in grad school in the early 90's we could still stump people with this old chestnut: A man and his son are in a terrible car crash. The father is killed instantly and the son is rushed to the hospital for life-saving surgery. Upon seeing the patient, however, the doctor exclaimed: "I can't operate on this boy! He's my son!" - How can that be? (I told you it was old!) I'll post something more difficult as soon as I remember one. Meanwhile, does anyone remember the How do the cannibals and the missionaries get across the river puzzler? I don't want to get it wrong... and it's a toughie! And I've more recently seen a slightly different version of it. Will ferret. |
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07 Dec 00 - 11:02 AM (#353063) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: P05139 Right then, here's 2 from my Key Skills lessons. 1) A smart explorer is kidnapped by savages. He (or she if you're a feminist) is told "Make a statement. If what you say is true, you'll be hanged. If it's false, you'll be shot." What does the explorer say to save his (her) life? 2) I have a full set of encyclopaedias on a shelf in order. Each volume of the encyclopaedia has covers 1/8th of an inch thick and 1 inch of pages. If a bookworm was to start at the last page of Volume 1 and eat its way through to the first page of Volume 2, how far would it have travelled? Have fun!! |
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07 Dec 00 - 11:10 AM (#353071) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Mrrzy My guess for (1) is "I am going to be shot." At least then you get a logical impasse... But you just reminded me of a good one: You die, and instead of going either to heaven or hell you materialize in an antechamber with 2 doors, each guarded by someone who looks just like you. You are told that one is an angel who always tells the truth, and one is a devil who always lies. One guards the door to heaven, one the door to hell, but you don't know which is guarding which. You are allowed one question, which you may ask of one guardian. What do you ask to find the door to heaven? |
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07 Dec 00 - 11:10 AM (#353074) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Jeri, unless I read it wrong, you never crossed through the 3. |
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07 Dec 00 - 11:17 AM (#353076) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Okay, you go up to one of them and say "Would he (i.e. the other guy) tell me that this door leads to Heaven?" If he says "no" go through it. This is headwrecking, but I think it works. If it IS the door to heaven and you're asking the liar then you're okay, and if it IS the door to heaven and you're asking the truth person it's okay. Just don't go through the one they say yes to. Is that it, or am I way off...? |
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07 Dec 00 - 11:28 AM (#353088) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jeri Allan, see my step 2. |
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07 Dec 00 - 11:34 AM (#353092) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jeri Firecat, your #2, would be 1/4 inch, plus the space in between vol 1 and 2. Your #1 might be "You are going to shoot me." |
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07 Dec 00 - 11:39 AM (#353094) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Gary T Yes, Jeri, that's it. It requires thinking outside the box, figuratively and literally. Congratulations! |
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07 Dec 00 - 12:44 PM (#353135) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: CamiSu Got Allan's! And it only took 2 minutes! (started with the 1234 pyramid and then to 'I could give you 6 rows of 4 each' to OH!! that's cool! Does anyone know where to find cryptic crosswords on line? I know about squizz and the Atlantic Monthly... Cami Su |
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07 Dec 00 - 12:54 PM (#353143) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Bert Try here |
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07 Dec 00 - 02:17 PM (#353173) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Mrrzy Fibula Mattock - yes, you have to ask what would the other guy say. Not sure if you have the right logic all the way through but that's the basic trick. Any news on the cannibals and missionaries? |
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07 Dec 00 - 04:59 PM (#353244) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: GUEST Two buildings are connected by a 12 foot length of rope. The rope is fastened at the corner of each building. The rope hangs down 6 feet. How far apart are the buildings? |
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07 Dec 00 - 05:01 PM (#353247) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Bert touching |
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07 Dec 00 - 07:10 PM (#353312) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: rabbitrunning The surgeon is the boy's mother. The buildings are (I believe) next to each other. I'd have to look for the cannibals and the missionaries. I know the answer involves always having more missionaries on one side of the river at a time than cannibals on the same side. |
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08 Dec 00 - 06:16 AM (#353542) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Wolfgang Someone walks 1 ml exactly South, 1 ml exactly East and 1 ml eactly North and is at the same point where he started. Where was he? Yes, I know it's easy to come up with one solution (North Pole), but I want to read all possible solutions for that puzzle on Earth. Wolfgang |
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08 Dec 00 - 06:43 AM (#353554) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Patrish(inactive) A treadmill? Patrish |
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08 Dec 00 - 07:22 AM (#353564) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Wolfgang No, real walk on the ground. Wolfgang |
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08 Dec 00 - 10:12 AM (#353643) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Mrrzy OK, I think this is how the cannibals and missionaries goes: there are three of each on one side of the river, and a pirogue (canoe) that will hold exactly 2. All 6 need to cross the river, but the cannibals can never outnumber the missionaries on any given bank, or soup will happen, and you won't have 3 missionaries any more. How do you get all 6 people across? |
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08 Dec 00 - 10:40 AM (#353662) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock Okay, first off the missionaries deserve everything they get and I have no sympathy for them if they're eaten *BG* I'm not sure what the constraints are. I presume someone is always needed to return the boat to the opposite side, and that can be either a cannibal or a missionary, or is it just missionaries that can handle the boat? Are they safe while they're in the boat (i.e. they can just drop one person off)? Does this work? cccmmm(3 of each on one side) cm go off in canoe leaving ccmm c deposited on opposite bank, m returns to ccmm cm go back to other side (to c) leaving cmm c drops off m and returns. One side now has cm, other has cmm and c is in the boat m gets in, crosses over with c, now one side has ccmm, other side has cm c crosses over (leaving cmm) and picks up m now there's ccmmm on one side and c on other so either a c or an m can go and pick them up. Something tells me there's an evil constraint I haven't considered. |
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08 Dec 00 - 10:42 AM (#353663) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock (I was negligent with some of my line breaks - sorry!) |
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08 Dec 00 - 11:58 AM (#353716) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jeri Fibula, your fifth line down would have c rowing back to cm, so there would be ccm when the boat reaches that side of the river. This one is complicated, and involves the position of the boat and who's in it, and I'm fairly sure somewhere along the line, someone has got to be rowed in the wrong direction. Unfortunately, my brain hurts from trying to figure it out. |
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08 Dec 00 - 12:07 PM (#353722) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: GUEST,Fibula Mattock I've started trying to work it out with 6 post-it notes and a piece of paper, but it's home-time, so I shall leave it for now! |
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08 Dec 00 - 12:11 PM (#353724) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jeri LOL. I went searching for the problem, and found all sorts of formulas and charts and things to figure this out. Personally, I'd do better with a visual representation to play with. |
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08 Dec 00 - 07:21 PM (#353955) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: IvanB 1 m and 1 c cross to dest, leaving 2 each at start. 1 m returns, leaving 3 m/2 c at start, 1 c at dest. 2 c cross, leaving 3 m at start and 3 c at dest. 1 c returns, leaving 3 m/1 c at start and 2 c at dest. 2 m cross, leaving 1 m/1 c at start and 2 m/2 c at dest. 1 m and 1 c return, leaving 2 m/2 c at start and 1 m/1 c at dest. 2 m cross, leaving 2 c at start and 3 m/1 c at dest. 1 c returns, leaving 3 c at start and 3 m at dest. 2 c cross, 1 c returns and the remaining 2 c's cross. |
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10 Dec 00 - 12:38 PM (#354465) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: CamiSu Bert-- Thanks a huge lot! this ought to keep me going for quite a while! CamiSu |
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10 Dec 00 - 01:00 PM (#354477) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Here's a couple from the Pennsylvania Dutch country: Whoever makes it, tells it not and whoever takes it recognizes it not and whoever recognizes it wants it not. Who was born but never died? |
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10 Dec 00 - 01:05 PM (#354480) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jeri Bravo Ivan!!! My eyes (and brain) went all buggy from trying to figure that one out. |
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10 Dec 00 - 03:24 PM (#354541) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Murray MacLeod Wolfgang, there is only one point in the solution set for that problem, and that is the North Pole. I have been wrong before, however, so correct me ! Murray |
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10 Dec 00 - 06:24 PM (#354614) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: fleetwood Wolfgang start the walk south 1 mile north of a circumferance of the south pole which is one mile long. The walk south and north is along the same line. |
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10 Dec 00 - 06:26 PM (#354615) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Ebbie Allan C: Who was born but never died? Unless you factor in a belief in reincarnation, one answer is "Every one of us alive today." Ebbie |
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10 Dec 00 - 06:30 PM (#354619) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Quite right, Ebbie! |
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10 Dec 00 - 06:41 PM (#354626) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Murray MacLeod Nice one, fleetwood. Tell me the truth did you know the answer or did you work it out? *G* Murray |
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10 Dec 00 - 06:45 PM (#354628) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: fleetwood I had not heard my solution before but the way I heard the original puzzle was that after the mile south a hunter shot a bear and the question ending what colour was the bear which made the north pole the only acceptable answer being a white polar bear. |
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11 Dec 00 - 12:08 AM (#354733) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. A version of the PA Dutch puzzler above is told in Arkansas similarly: The man who made me, never used me. The man who bought me, never used me. The man who used me never saw me.
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11 Dec 00 - 01:19 AM (#354742) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Ebbie Allan!! Ebbie |
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11 Dec 00 - 06:02 AM (#354778) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: AndyG Wolfgang,
It would appear that the list of possible solutions is:
For each defined pair of poles, (ie magnetic, geographic).
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11 Dec 00 - 06:13 AM (#354783) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: P05139 People who got mine:- Yes the answers are as follows: 1) "I will be shot" 2) 1/4of an inch! WELL DONE!! (((((((((HUG)))))))))))) |
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11 Dec 00 - 07:12 AM (#354820) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Wolfgang Well done, fleetwood and Andy, and correct solutions to the puzzle your solutions are, but still not all possible solutions. (though you are extremely near to find the rest of the solutions) Wolfgang |
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11 Dec 00 - 07:59 AM (#354836) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: AndyG Wolfgang,
Yeah, silly me. For each defined pair of poles.
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11 Dec 00 - 08:03 AM (#354837) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: AndyG Oopsie,
For each defined pair of poles.
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11 Dec 00 - 08:21 AM (#354842) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Wolfgang Andy, yes, that are all solutions I know of. Of course, you assume that the earth is flat in the formula, but I couldn't do better and that's close enough. For those who don't do formulae (formulas?): Take fleetwood's solution and allow also circles around the south pole with 1/2 (1/3, 1/4,...) ml circumference around the south pole and then you'll see that you start a bit more than 1 ml north of the south pole, make 1, 2, 3, 4, ... full circles around the pole (the nearer you are, the sillier you feel) to cover one mile and walk the first mile back north. New puzzle: How long is the shortest word in a Latin script Eurpoean language that has all five vowels (aeiou) in it? Wolfgang |
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11 Dec 00 - 09:22 AM (#354870) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: MichaelM Sorry to disagree with Firecat but the distance between the "last page of Vol.1" (which is,looking at the books on the shelf, inside the left cover) and the first page of Vol.2 (just inside the right cover) is 2.25" Now the first page of vol.1 and the last page of vol.2 are one-quarter of an inch apart. Michael |
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11 Dec 00 - 09:32 AM (#354877) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: CamiSu Allan-- I would say the answer to your Arkansas riddle is a coffin, but I'm not sure I'd say the same about its Pennsylvania Dutch version. CamiSu |
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11 Dec 00 - 09:46 AM (#354883) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. CamiSu, you have the answer. It is the same for both. |
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11 Dec 00 - 09:48 AM (#354885) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Mrrzy Thanks for the cannibal one, and Fibula Mattock, I couldn't agree more! OK, here's another one, credit my niece: What is the food that you throw away the outside and cook the inside, and then eat the outside and throw away the inside? And is a Coffin the right answer? And All of Us? |
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11 Dec 00 - 10:03 AM (#354896) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Wolfgang Michael's right and Firecat has asked something (s)he didn't want to ask (with this wording). Which leaves open the question whether Jeri has understood the question as it is usually asked (as I did, for instance, without sufficient reading) and from that understanding has found a creative and counterintuitive solution to the question that has not been asked actually (but should have been asked) or whether she has understood the question as it was asked and has made a simple mistake (my guess is on the first possibility). It reminds me of one of my bigger mistakes when I was asking what I thought was a very cleverly worded question in a written examination that only the very best of the students should have been able to get correct. I then made a mistake myself and found that the first glance obvious response was now correct after all and the only ones that did not have this solution were the best of my students. Wolfgang |
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11 Dec 00 - 10:06 AM (#354899) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: MMario for the Arkansas riddle I would say coffin; for the PA Dutch one, counterfeit money. |
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11 Dec 00 - 10:15 AM (#354903) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. I suppose it would pay for me to have gone back to see which puzzles I had posted. There were two PA Dutch ones I had intended to post. One was a version of the Arkansas one above. Thus my response to CamiSu was incorrect. Mario has the correct answers. |
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11 Dec 00 - 10:27 AM (#354910) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Mrrzy AllanC - who didn't ever die, though? |
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11 Dec 00 - 10:34 AM (#354916) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Mrrzy, if you are reading the puzzle, then you are probably alive. |
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11 Dec 00 - 10:38 AM (#354922) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Troll I got it the woods because I wasn't looking for it. I brought it home because I couldn't find it. When I found it, I threw it away because I didn't want it. It was bright pick with purple stripes. OK! OK! It wasn't bright pink with purple spots. I only said that to add a little color to the thread. troll |
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11 Dec 00 - 10:43 AM (#354929) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Mrrzy That last one, troll, reminds me of a riddle song from very early childhood: What's green, hangs on the wall, and whistles? |
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11 Dec 00 - 04:44 PM (#355191) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Mrrzy, I think the answer to the food question might be: corn. The answer to your last one might be: a tea kettle (because you lied about its other attributes). |
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11 Dec 00 - 04:47 PM (#355194) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: mousethief troll's is a burr, I think. Or a thorn or sliver in the flesh. Alex |
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11 Dec 00 - 04:50 PM (#355196) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Bernard Which mammal, which is not egg-laying (e.g. duck billed platypus), could theoretically be completely wiped off the face of the earth, yet, the following day thousands of young could be born? |
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11 Dec 00 - 05:02 PM (#355211) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Bernard, thousands of young what? If you mean thousands of the young of that very same mammal, then I have no guess. |
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11 Dec 00 - 05:03 PM (#355212) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: mousethief What do you mean by "born"? Leave the womb? Or something a little more sneaky? |
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11 Dec 00 - 05:10 PM (#355217) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Bernard 'Born' as in 'leaving the womb'!! It's soooooo obvious!! |
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11 Dec 00 - 05:13 PM (#355219) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Bernard Ooops! Forgot! Yes - the very same mammal. You'll kick yourselves if you don't get it... |
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11 Dec 00 - 05:20 PM (#355221) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Unless there is a meaning for "wiped off the face of the earth" that is rather different from what I was taught, then I doubt I'll be kicking myself. |
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11 Dec 00 - 05:24 PM (#355225) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Bernard Nope. Exactly how it sounds! One minute there's thousands of them, the next minute something kills the lot! 'Kick' was a clue - think laterally! |
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11 Dec 00 - 06:00 PM (#355248) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Okay, after I'm through kicking myself, the line forms on the right. |
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11 Dec 00 - 06:18 PM (#355255) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: CamiSu Troll's answer could also be a tick. And Bernard, the males of any species! I'm a farmer. we keep the females! CamiSu |
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11 Dec 00 - 06:29 PM (#355259) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Jeri You're not thinking marsupials crawling out of pouches are you? |
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12 Dec 00 - 04:08 AM (#355464) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Bernard Nope - Allan PM'd me about that! He now knows the answer - it's an animal common in many countries... Anyone who wants the answer, or who think they already know it, PM me - that way people who want to think it over don't have it spoiled.
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12 Dec 00 - 06:02 AM (#355493) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: MudGuard Any mammals living underground (mice, rabbits, ...). When all are underground, they are wiped from face of earth. And they still could be happily living . |
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12 Dec 00 - 09:39 AM (#355637) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Mrrzy Allan C, yes, corn. Tea kettle, no. But you're right that some of the attributes are, well, not quite necessarily true all the time... |
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12 Dec 00 - 10:21 AM (#355662) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Wolfgang Bernard, I'm sure it's not what you mean but it fits every aspect: humans, in about 100 years from now, could be wiped off the face of the Earth and yet thousands of them could be born next day on Europe (a Jupiter moon). Wolfgang |
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12 Dec 00 - 10:24 AM (#355664) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: Allan C. Hey, could someone please do a Blicky for this thread to a continuation? I would if I could. |
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12 Dec 00 - 10:41 AM (#355673) Subject: RE: BS: Puzzles From: MMario Part 3-1 can be found here |