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10 Dec 00 - 12:57 PM (#354475) Subject: Irish choruses lyrics From: GUEST,Sheila Hello all. Can anyone give me some knowledge (or educated guess) how some of the wonderful choruses of Irish folk songs get their variations? For example, "The Spanish Lady" offers, (1) "Raddy a the too dum;" (2) "Whack for the toor a;" (3) "Whack fol the toora." Just curious as I relish the music. Have happy holidays. Sheila |
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10 Dec 00 - 02:48 PM (#354525) Subject: RE: Irish choruses lyrics From: nutty It's just a guess but it could be a follow-on from 'mouth-music' which people danced to when they had no instruments |
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10 Dec 00 - 04:36 PM (#354565) Subject: RE: Irish choruses lyrics From: Malcolm Douglas By no means a uniquely Irish phenomenon, of course. Have a look at these past discussions for all sorts of ideas, some informed, some... less so: meaning - musha ring dumma do dumma da Help: Whack-fol-the-diddle et al Song Style? Type of song? Lilting Mouth tunes Malcolm |
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10 Dec 00 - 04:57 PM (#354569) Subject: RE: Irish choruses lyrics From: bill\sables Could it have something to do with the drinking habits of us in the British Isles and Ireland and not remembering words while under the influence. |
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10 Dec 00 - 06:03 PM (#354600) Subject: RE: Irish choruses lyrics From: whistledon perhaps for the same reasons ' shoo bop shoo bop, my baby ' is heard in American music. Sounds good and maybe it takes the place of where words were either forgotten or never even written down. Slan,whistledon |
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11 Dec 00 - 10:34 AM (#354917) Subject: RE: Irish choruses lyrics From: GUEST,james what is an inting of an inting of an ido di day ? It is from a Tommy Makem song about a shoemaker..wish I could remember the name of it...does anyone know ? James |
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11 Dec 00 - 10:36 AM (#354920) Subject: RE: Irish choruses lyrics From: GUEST,Mary The name of that song is "Dick Darby". It starts out "Oh me name is Dick Darby I'm a cobbler..." The words don't really make much sense. |
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11 Dec 00 - 10:46 AM (#354930) Subject: RE: Irish choruses lyrics From: Mrrzy The only song by any Clancy brother I actually don't like. But look at Whiskey you're the divil - the "mouth music" part is so fast and so quirky that if you've been drinking you can't sing the song any more. I think those things evolved to keep the performers sober enough to entertain! |
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11 Dec 00 - 05:25 PM (#355226) Subject: RE: Irish choruses lyrics From: GUEST "Dick Darling the cobbler" on the Bodley Ballads website is in cante-fable form, with chorus for the song part, "With my twing, twing..". (Probably derived from "My Name is Old Hewson the Cobbler") |
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11 Dec 00 - 06:38 PM (#355264) Subject: RE: Irish choruses lyrics From: paddymac "Dick darby" also goes under the name "The Cobbler" fairly commonly. |