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07 Jan 01 - 06:36 PM (#370492) Subject: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Little Hawk Click for the 'PermaThread™: List of all joke threads'For all you pedants and linguistic experts out there... What's the difference between: 1. Odds and ends 2. Helter and skelter 3. a nook and a cranny (I already got that answered once, but it's too good not to include in this list...) 4. higgledy and piggledy 5. tweedledum and tweedledee 6. a rock and a hard place And so on... Got any more of these??? - LH |
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07 Jan 01 - 06:55 PM (#370504) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: wysiwyg Well, Hawk, I do know this. I used to think there were two kinds of people-- install the toilet paper rolling overhand, or install it underhand. Now I have learned that there are indeed two kinds of people, but it comes down to, do you or do you not change the TP? Which way it rolls is of no moment. And I used to care! Un-be-flicking-lievable! I think a nook is rounder and roomier, and a cranny more vertical and narrow. Can't help much with the rest. Hey, BTW, ask hess woulja-- what happed to the pix? Be well! ~S~ |
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07 Jan 01 - 06:58 PM (#370506) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: CarolC My head from a... (never mind) |
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07 Jan 01 - 07:07 PM (#370513) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: catspaw49 I think your problem is obvious Hawk. Observe the two diagrams below:
Diagram A --- O Which one is your ass and which one is a hole in the ground? Spaw |
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07 Jan 01 - 07:10 PM (#370520) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Burke Just a gurss: Odds are what's left over when distributing items evenly. Say 5 apples between 2 people. Ends are what's left after cutting pieces of cloth, paper, whatever to a desired size.
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07 Jan 01 - 07:15 PM (#370526) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Matt_R When the wind is north-northwesterly, I can tell a little hawk from a handsaw. |
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07 Jan 01 - 07:23 PM (#370542) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Troll Sorta like a horse chestnut and a chestnut horse? How 'bout flotsam and jetsam. troll |
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07 Jan 01 - 07:42 PM (#370557) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Bill D "Let the threads creep where they may" ...so while you are at it, contemplate the differences between..'amble'..'sashay'..'saunter'..'traipse'...'sidle' ..and 'walk'...(and probably 3-4 more) and I always wondered if the were 'real' technical differences between 'couch', 'sofa', 'divan', 'settee', etc..... Tweeedledum accused Tweedledee of theft
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07 Jan 01 - 07:59 PM (#370565) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: GUEST Ah, hah! Good stuff! We are getting answers. And some of them even make sense. Spaw - I don't know which is which...I'm confused. Of course I seldom actually get a look at my own ass, so maybe that's why. I will have to get a small mirror and check this out. Stay tuned. Troll - flotsam and jetsam is a beauty! Wish I'd thought of it. Bill D - amble: to walk in a relaxed manner, as if with no particular objective in mind. saunter: similar to amble, but with more style, and possibly with a specific objective in this case, but not necessarily. sashay: a form of sauntering done by attractive females, specially in the Old South. traipse: same as sashay, but less confined to the Old South. Gals have been traipsing ever since the dawn of time. sidle: an approach utilizing a certain degree of stealth, usually with a specific objective in mind, often one which is to the disadvantage of the "sidlee" (the one being sidled up to). walk - boring, boring, boring... perambulate - a very long way to say "walk". Conveys a certain sense of gravity, breeding and distinction. Usually happens in England or various parts of the Empire, as it used to be called, when the world was half coloured in pink on every map. stride - a very firm, purposeful walk. shamble - an incoherent, apelike gait, denoting extremely primitive characteristics or possibly drunkeness. shuffle - not lifting the feet enough when walking. Okay? - LH
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07 Jan 01 - 08:08 PM (#370572) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Burke Bill D., don't forget to add davenport to your couch, sofa list. I didn't have a clue what one was for years. |
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07 Jan 01 - 08:12 PM (#370573) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Little Hawk teeter and totter? - LH |
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07 Jan 01 - 08:15 PM (#370576) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: little john cameron Listen here ye guys,ah pit "Between a rock an a hard place"in mah search engine an came up wi a PORN SITE.Tae mak maitters worse ah couldnae get rid o them as anither ane popped up as fast as ah could shut them doon.Then on tap o that mah dochter cam in an caught me.Ah blamed it little hawk. ljc(red faced} |
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07 Jan 01 - 08:21 PM (#370580) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Matt_R Or Frick & Frack! |
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07 Jan 01 - 08:22 PM (#370581) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Little Hawk Yeah. Those multiple porn sites are a pain. The only way to stop them loading is to shut down or reboot the machine. Deny, Little John! Deny, deny, deny! - LH |
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07 Jan 01 - 08:31 PM (#370588) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: little john cameron Aye noo ye tell me,too late noo. ljc |
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07 Jan 01 - 08:39 PM (#370598) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Little Hawk Actually, you can get rid of them by disconnecting from the net too...and then deleting the ones that are onscreen...I think. But for a fast escape nothing beats rebooting. One other remedy is to shoot the computer in self-defense, like Elvis did with his TV, but it's an expensive method... - LH |
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07 Jan 01 - 08:56 PM (#370606) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Bugsy I too typed in A Rock And A Hard Place in my search engine and came up with this! Makes you think don't it. CHeers Bugsy Link fixed - JoeClone |
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07 Jan 01 - 08:59 PM (#370608) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Bugsy Oops! Try This Cheers Bugsy |
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07 Jan 01 - 09:07 PM (#370613) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Benjamin I can tell the difference between a presure washer and an air compresser! I can also tell the difference between pop and smooth jazz! |
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07 Jan 01 - 09:19 PM (#370621) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: little john cameron Jings Bugsy,is that whit turns ye on.Ah'll stick wi the porn thanks very much. ljc |
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07 Jan 01 - 09:35 PM (#370637) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: paddymac Drill Instructors used to tell recruits that they (the lowly recurits) couldn't tell shit from shinola.
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07 Jan 01 - 10:23 PM (#370657) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Bill D no, no, no! You DON'T have to re-boot when you hit one of those stupid porn sites! You need a firewall, like ZoneAlarm !!..or AtGuard (I use both at once)(I'll see if I can find a still valid link for AtGuard)...they control the javascript that makes those new popups and stop cookies and hackers, too....**AND**...in Netscape, (and probably somewhere in IE5, you get 'some' control by using the dropdown menu under 'back', so you can skip that '0' site that stands between you and backing out of the damn trap! I haven't had to fight one of those trap sites in MANY months. Honest, it really works!...ZoneAlarm seems to THE freeware firewall these days, but I love the features of AtGuard, too..(it was bought by Norton, and is now part of their $$$firewall system but everyone says the original free one was better) |
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08 Jan 01 - 12:05 AM (#370699) Subject: What the diff. bet flotsam and jetsam From: Tom D. The flotsam and jetsam query from the thread about 'what's the difference between' is easy: When a sailing ship was being pursued by another with hostile intentions, stuff (sometimes, even cannon!) would be thrown overboard in an attempt to gain speed and distance from the pursuer/attacker. The stuff thrown overboard is 'jetsam.' If that was not successful, and the hostile ship caught up and inflicted enough damage to sink the ship, the stuff that rose back up to the surface was the 'flotsam.' Thus, jetsam is the stuff that is thrown overboard (i.e., jettisoned( and flotsam is the stuff that floats back up to the surface. Let's hear it for Patrick O'Brien!! Tom D.
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08 Jan 01 - 12:23 AM (#370703) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: wysiwyg You guys are lame, you missed the best one! Whaddaya think-- if you give tit for tat, is that an even trade, and how are they different? Which one is better to get? Do you think TAT used to have another letter in it that would clear it up but it got lost in the folk process? (Got folked up?) I guess it's six of one and half a dozen of the other. That is, if you go for the group thing. ~Susan *G*G*G* What a relief to lighten the hell UP again!!!! I blame Little Hawk, he brings it out in me! |
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08 Jan 01 - 12:51 AM (#370709) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Little Hawk That flotsam and jetsam answer is fantastic! Hooray for Patrick O'Brien. I read one of his books in which a small brig is being pursued by 3 French men-of-war. The captain of the British brig throws over every single one of his prized cannons, plus everything else he can think of in order to lighten the ship and escape...all to no avail...they finally catch up with him, and he is forced to surrender his ship, which he does, most regretfully. A fascinating incident. Opposing captains and officers were treated quite chivalrously in those days once they had surrendered, getting to dine with the officers to whom they had surrendered, and socialize with them on a regular basis during the rest of the voyage. As for the enlisted men, they were offered a chance to join the other navy, and sometimes did. If not, they were held prisoner until a prisoner exchange could be arranged. The sailing ships were far more often captured than sunk. In many ways, their wars were more humane than has been the case in more recent historical times. - LH |
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08 Jan 01 - 02:09 AM (#370732) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: wysiwyg Men! ~S~ |
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08 Jan 01 - 03:12 AM (#370749) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: GUEST,Thom M. at work what about? Hunky Dory Okey dokey Hither and Yon Up and About Up and Att'em Screwed, blued, and tattooed muck and mire rhythem and blues (no, I don't mean the only two approved methods of birth control for catholics)*BG* Spic and span touchy feely That's enough for now I guess. Thom |
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08 Jan 01 - 05:10 AM (#370766) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Ella who is Sooze Tweedledum and tweedledee were twins... Muck and Mire... You fall in the muck and then you have to get out of the mire! Mire = kind of mucky bog... Hither and Yon = Here and over there |
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08 Jan 01 - 07:28 AM (#370780) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: GUEST,micca at work What is missing from the Flotsam/jetsam explanation is that jetsam was intentionally thrown overboard,not only in the specialised circumstances of war, but in other situations where the safety of the ship was compromised and often buoyed up or otherwise marked for later recovery, and therfore remained the property of the ship, flotsam was stuff that floated free from a wreck and was Treasure Trove if washed ashore and therefore the subject of a crowners (Coroners) court in the UK,who would decide ownership. If it hadnt been " dissappeared" by beachcombers. |
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08 Jan 01 - 07:29 AM (#370781) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: GUEST,micca at work What is missing from the Flotsam/jetsam explanation is that jetsam was intentionally thrown overboard,not only in the specialised circumstances of war, but in other situations where the safety of the ship was compromised and often buoyed up or otherwise marked for later recovery, and therfore remained the property of the ship, flotsam was stuff that floated free from a wreck and was Treasure Trove if washed ashore and therefore the subject of a crowners (Coroners) court in the UK,who would decide ownership. If it hadnt been " dissappeared" by beachcombers. |
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08 Jan 01 - 12:46 PM (#370922) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: mousethief Actually (PEDANT ALERT!) there is a difference between flotsam and jetsam. Flotsam is stuff that FLOATS overboard (by a wave smacking into it, for example) whereas jetsam is stuff that is JETTISONED overboard on purpose. Alex |
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08 Jan 01 - 07:19 PM (#371204) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: GUEST,Professor Boligraffo Many of your queries could be easily resolved by reference to the complete Oxford English Dictionary. One wonders, given the vast body of cultural, artistic, scientfic, philosophic and general intellectual endeavour achieved by humanity to date, why anyone would wish to dwell on such mundain absurdities as the interpretation of clichee. |
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08 Jan 01 - 07:26 PM (#371211) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: mousethief What DO they teach them in these schools? |
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08 Jan 01 - 07:28 PM (#371213) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Matt_R The only difference That I see Is you are exactly the same As you used to be |
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08 Jan 01 - 08:02 PM (#371229) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: sophocleese What's the difference between a duck? |
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08 Jan 01 - 09:14 PM (#371247) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Bill D because if either of it's legs are both the same |
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08 Jan 01 - 09:28 PM (#371253) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Burke Perfesser, making things up is more fun than the OED, but here's one for ya, just ta keep ya happy:
higgledy-piggledy, adv., n., and a. 1598 FLORIO, Alla rappa, snatchingly, higledi-pigledie, shiftingly, nap and run. Ibid., Alla rinfusa, pelmell, helterskelter, higledi-pigledie.
Other usages and spellings:
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08 Jan 01 - 09:38 PM (#371257) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: McGrath of Harlow What we need is a bootleg link to the Complete Oxford English Dictionary...This site gives you a Word a Day, and lots of other good stuff - but to get to the full dictionary you've got to have a password. And here is the Word of the Day for today, ramify Fascinating stuff, with all the quotes and that. |
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08 Jan 01 - 09:42 PM (#371258) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Burke I wouldn't know how, but besides, for that I could probably loose my job. |
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09 Jan 01 - 05:32 PM (#371735) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Bert Muck is manure. Mire is plain old mud (clean dirt) |
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09 Jan 01 - 05:48 PM (#371757) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: GUEST,ickle dorritt OK then what is the difference between rock and roll? |
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09 Jan 01 - 05:53 PM (#371763) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Bert 'Rock'ing is a forward and backward motion like a rocking chair. 'Roll'ing is from side to side as in "Rolling Home" |
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09 Jan 01 - 06:18 PM (#371786) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: GUEST,petr how about country and western. my favourite is the mavens word of the day here http://www.randomhouse.com/wotd/ |
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09 Jan 01 - 06:27 PM (#371796) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: wysiwyg Yeah, if it was Rock and Go, they'd pitch off the stage headfirst into the first row (hmmm!) or body slam the proscenium. This way they get to slide out sideways. Brings to mind the pit and the pendulum... ~S~ |
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09 Jan 01 - 08:57 PM (#371909) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Les B My daughter asked me this the other day and I'm still pondering -- when you can't see you're "blind" when you can't hear you're "deaf" - when you can't talk you're "dumb" - what's it called when you can't smell, or can't taste ??? (other than tasteless!) |
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09 Jan 01 - 09:10 PM (#371913) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Matt_R olfactronically impaired (it's PC) |
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10 Jan 01 - 12:16 AM (#372001) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Karen_H Frick and Frack were ice skaters who were brothers (at least according to my Aunt who saw then in her youth). |
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11 Jan 01 - 02:30 PM (#372897) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Little Hawk Okay, Spaw...I have FINALLY figured it out! ...I think... You asked: I think your problem is obvious Hawk. Observe the two diagrams below: Diagram A --- O Diagram B --- O Which one is your ass and which one is a hole in the ground? Okay...neither one of them is my ass! This is now confirmed beyond any shadow of a doubt, by direct observation, by holding a small mirror and adjusting the light just so. What they are is, one of them is Little Orphan Annie's right eye, and the other is her left eye, and she is obviously lying down on her side, facing the viewer, but I don't know which is the right eye and which is the left, cos I don't know which direction she's lying in. Either that or it could be Sandy's eyes...or Daddy Warbucks' eyes...or Punjab's eyes...or...Shit! This isn't getting us anywhere, is it? Be that as it may, Spaw, I feel duty bound to tell you that in your posting which I pasted above you neglected to place a comma before the word "Hawk". You're slipping, son. Time for some summer courses. - LH
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11 Jan 01 - 03:22 PM (#372925) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Benjamin Can anyone tell the difference between butter and I can't believe it's not butter? How about Diet Dr. Pepper and regular Dr. Pepper? |
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11 Jan 01 - 03:44 PM (#372937) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Troll Which would YOU rather be? Or an elephant. Because each of his legs is shorter than the other. troll |
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11 Jan 01 - 03:58 PM (#372945) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: MMario Benjamin: yes. - there is a pronounced differnce in taste and texture. and yes. but it's much harder. |
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11 Jan 01 - 04:23 PM (#372950) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: GUEST,Ickle Dorrit ok -one for the officianado's of british cooking -what's the difference between cottage pie and shepherds pie? |
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11 Jan 01 - 04:27 PM (#372953) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: sophocleese Is one made with shepherds and the other with cottages? |
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11 Jan 01 - 04:37 PM (#372955) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Bert Well, there really is no difference and the terms are used interchangably. However, you will find people who will swear that Shepherds pie is made from lamb and Cottage pie is made from other meats. And you will find others who claim that Shepherds pie is made of mince meat(ground beef) and Cottage pie is made from cut up pieces of leftovers. |
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11 Jan 01 - 04:39 PM (#372957) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: sophocleese So the shepherds really don't come into it then? |
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11 Jan 01 - 05:20 PM (#372972) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Greyeyes According to my Mrs Beaton, Shepherds pie should properly be made with cold, left-over mutton. Constance Spry has the following to say on the subject of proper cottage pie: "It is only a modern practice to use cold cooked meat for cottage pie; in days gone by fresh meat was used, finely minced by hand, added to a rich gravy with onions in it, surmounted by a fine mound of the lightest puree of potatoes containing butter and milk, dotted over with butter and crisply browned. "Now, more commonly, this dish is a rechauffe; even so it need not be a Cinderella among dishes provided it is properly made, well seasoned and flavoured and covered with a really good puree of potatoes properly browned at the last. Unfortunately the potatoes are often too casually prepared and are neither light enough nor sufficiently seasoned or browned." I have never heard that the ingredients of the two pies are interchangeable. |
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12 Jan 01 - 01:59 PM (#373435) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Bert See & Saw. And why does Digitrad use "Did you ever see" instead of "Did you ever saw" in Cosher Bailey's Engine? |
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12 Jan 01 - 03:42 PM (#373502) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Little Hawk Or as Dylan once wrote sarcastically "and I seen...or rather, I have saw", regarding promises made by reporters that he would see what would happen if he gave them weird and silly answers to their stupid and predictable questions...they would print a rumour story to cause him trouble and embarrassment. In one short sentence Bob lampoons not only said reporters, but also all pedants who have ever complained about his frequent usage of colloquial and technically incorrect grammar in his song lyrics...which was not through ignorance, but by choice. Oddly enough, Bob usually sings "there is no place I'm going to" in Tambourine Man, which is impeccably correct English, but I've heard innumerable renditions of the song by various folkies who usually sing "there ain't no place I'm going to". I wonder why? They must have just been sure that Bob would do it that way, I guess... BTW, Spaw's original diagram looked like this:
Diagram A --- O I forgot to put in the "break" commands before, so it didn't come out right. See? Little Orphan Annie's eyes...for sure, eh? - LH
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13 Jan 01 - 06:00 AM (#373854) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Penny S. Can't smell - anosmic. No common word, apparently. I was taught that cottage pie had the potato in slices to look like a roof - and our shepherds pie was Tuesday. After roast on Sunday, cold on Monday. When we became better off, Mum switched to fresh mince. These are folk dishes, and subject to folk process. It is what is done in your family. In the supermarkets, shepherds is lamb, and cottage is beef. There is now a further variation - Cumberland pie, which is beef except when it is a chicken or salmon Cumberland. Anyone know the definition of this? Penny |
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13 Jan 01 - 06:24 AM (#373865) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Bernard The version of Cosher Bailey's Engine I know has the chorus 'Was you ever see?'... English like what she is spoke! So why do we say we're all at sixes and sevens? What's the difference or significance? |
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13 Jan 01 - 12:00 PM (#373946) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Uncle_DaveO Les B: Without a sense of smell? Anosmic. Dave Oesterreich |
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13 Jan 01 - 12:17 PM (#373957) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Little Hawk Okay... What's the difference between thread creep and Spaw? - LH |
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13 Jan 01 - 11:40 PM (#374209) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: GUEST,bert Well the whole purpose of "Cosher Bailey's Engine" and it's kin "There's a little pub in Wales" - is that it is (or maybe was) a popular English belief that the Welsh people used the saying "Did you ever saw" (spoken of course with a fake Welsh accent with a great deal of emphasis on the "saw". And the English were somewhat taking the piss out of the Welsh in the song. That's why it rhymes with 'before'. Due to either political correctness, or plain ignorance, it has been reduced to "Did you ever see" in the DT. bert. |
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14 Jan 01 - 01:34 AM (#374244) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Tom D. What's the difference between a banjo player (or, substitute the player of your favorite instrument)and a 12 inch pizza pie? Answer: The pizza pie can feed a family of four.
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14 Jan 01 - 02:04 AM (#374250) Subject: RE: BS - what's the difference between..... From: Extra Stout Hey, Little Hawk, the "fascinating incident" you refer to happened to Captain Lord Cochrane, as did most of O'Brian's first Jack Aubrey book. May I recommend Cochrane's "Autobiography Of A Seaman"? Also, "The Adventures Of John Wetherell" edited by C.S. Forester(of Horatio Hornblower and The African Queen) details the enlisted prisoner's experience in France, and is great background for anyone reading anything dealing with the Revolutionary and Napoleonic wars. Both of these books are in print. I bought them both recently, but can't lay hands on them to cite publishers. Found 'em both at Barnes and Noble,if that helps. |