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20 Jan 01 - 04:24 PM (#378582) Subject: Paul in Maine From: GUEST,paul gudde & Therese Martin Can't seem to find the words to the song "Mama's little baby loves shortning, shortning, mama's little baby loves shortning bread..." not even sure what the title is or if i am spelling this out right...can anyone help me? Thank you tmartin@ime.net |
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20 Jan 01 - 04:47 PM (#378594) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paul in Maine From: GUEST,winterbright Have you tried Rise Up Singing? I think they go: "(your beginning words are OK)"; they're the chorus (sing 2x); then: "2 little children lyin' in bed/ one of 'em sick, and the other 'most dead; call for the doctor, the doctor said - feed them children on shortnin' bread"; chorus. I've heard this done kinda black dialect, so 'mama" would be "manny". But check out Rise Up, I'm pretty sure it's in there. |
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20 Jan 01 - 05:03 PM (#378598) Subject: Lyr Add: SHORT'NIN' BREAD From: Sorcha If it's in the DT, I couldn't find it!! SHORT'NIN' BREAD
Plantation Song
Put on the skillet,
Mama's little baby loves
Three little children,
Mama's little baby loves
Mama's little baby loves
When those children,
Mama's little baby loves
Slip to the kitchen,
Mama's little baby loves
Caught me with the skillet,
Mama's little baby loves
from: http://www.danmansmusic.com/childrens/shortnin_bread.txt |
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20 Jan 01 - 05:19 PM (#378606) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Paul in Maine From: Sorcha And, Paul, if in future you need to make another request, you will get better response if you put the title of what you are looking for in the title of the Thread, OK? |
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21 Jan 01 - 04:39 PM (#379139) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shortnin Bread (from Paul in Maine) From: GUEST,winterbright Yeah, Paul... It IS in Rise Up Singing, with ALL the verses. Nice to know about that site, too, Sorcha! So Paul, where are you in Maine? |
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22 Jan 01 - 08:56 AM (#379499) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shortnin Bread (from Paul in Maine) From: Gern The Freight Hoppers, no slaves to either tradition or sentimentality, sing: "I'm so glad the old hog's dead/ I got more shortening for my bread..." |
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23 Jan 01 - 04:20 AM (#380276) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shortnin Bread (from Paul in Maine) From: Ella who is Sooze oh my god... I can't stand this song... I always thought it was a short song.. but seeing all the lyrics above has made me dispare! Oh dear.... Ella (all entirely personal reasons of course) |
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23 Jan 01 - 09:13 PM (#380944) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shortnin Bread (from Paul in Maine) From: GUEST,CraigS Couldn't resist contributing the last verse of the Fats Waller version (B side of "My Very Good Friend the Milkman"): Hey, delivery man, where you been? Oh, mercy, sure is a sin! Momma, momma, don't be bad - Do not show your big, fine ... Shortnin' bread |
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24 Jan 01 - 01:14 AM (#381027) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shortnin Bread (from Paul in Maine) From: katlaughing My sister has my mom and dad's original sheet music to this. Mom used to sing it to us when she'd be cooking, but I never heard so many verses. Thanks, Sorcha! BTW, did I miss a thread name change? I saw "Shortnin Bread" in the title, Sorcha, was it not there earlier? Just wondering. kat |
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24 Jan 01 - 01:21 AM (#381030) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shortnin Bread (from Paul in Maine) From: Sorcha Yea, almost at the same time I told Paul he would get more action if he put the title in the thread name, Sneaky Elf changed the thread name........ |
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24 Jan 01 - 02:10 AM (#381037) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shortnin Bread (from Paul in Maine) From: Joe Offer Hi - you'll find other versions here (click) and here (click again) and here (click yet once more). It should be noted that the lyrics were first posted in this forum by the estimable Dick Greenhaus on April 21, 1997. He duly noted that the lyrics were "politically terrible." -Joe Offer, who got his thread-renaming button back- |
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11 Feb 02 - 08:02 PM (#647712) Subject: Lyr Add: SALTIN' BREAD (from Thomas W. Talley) From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Lyr. Add: SALTIN' BREAD I loves saltin', saltin' bread. I loves saltin', saltin' bread. Put on dat skillet, nev' mind de lead; Case I'se gwineter cook dat saltin' bread; Yes, ever since my mammy's been dead, I'se been makin' an' cookin' dat saltin' bread. I loves saltin', saltin' bread. I loves saltin', saltin' bread. You loves biscuit, butter an' fat? I can dance Shiloh better 'an dat. Does you turn 'round and shake yo' head?- Well, I loves saltin', saltin' bread. I loves saltin', saltin' bread. I loves saltin', saltin' bread. W'en yo' ax yo' mammy fer butter an' bread, She don't give nothin' but a stick across yo' head. On cracklin's, you say, you wants to git fed? Well, I loves saltin', saltin' bread. Saltin' bread is made from water-ground corn meal, a salt-rising bread. Short'ning bread is a bread mixed with bacon bits or bacon gravy (largely drippin's from bacon). Neither one has anything to do with short bread. Cracklin' bread is essentially the same as short'nin' bread. Do not confuse with cracklin's made from roasted or fried pork skin (best from shoulder). Thomas W. Talley, 1949 (1991 new ed.), Negro Folk Rhymes, pp. 71-72. @Negro @children @social song |
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11 Feb 02 - 09:53 PM (#647776) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shortnin Bread (from Paul in Maine) From: wysiwyg Oh dear, I've indexed these. ~S~ |
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12 Feb 02 - 10:49 AM (#648176) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shortnin Bread (from Paul in Maine) From: GUEST,Paul Mitchell Gern said: The Freight Hoppers, no slaves to either tradition or sentimentality, sing: "I'm so glad the old hog's dead/ I got more shortening for my bread..." This line comes from the singing of Hub Mahaffey, singer and guitarist with the Dykes Magic City Trio, a great band from Tenn. who recorded in the 20's. Another line from them is: Going up to get a little shortnen', shortnen' Going up to get a little shortnen bread. You can hear the 78 of this version, featuring John Dykes remarkable fiddling, at www.honkingduck.com (under the 78 link).Just look under D for Dykes and drop to the bottom of the page. Paul Mitchell |
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12 Feb 02 - 07:17 PM (#648626) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shortnin Bread (from Paul in Maine) From: GUEST,Chicken Charlie Slight variant, but oh, so meaningful:
Chicken in the bread tray mighty good stuff; Love the one about the old hog. Ella: There cannot be "too many verses" to a folk song. At 2:30 AM when your fingers are terminally sore but you have consumed too much Jack and know you will get the whirlies if you try to lie down, you need motivation to keep breathing deeply. THAT is the real reason for the seventeen-minute version of Bad Man Stack o'Lee. |
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12 Feb 02 - 11:26 PM (#648827) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shortnin Bread (from Paul in Maine) From: Uncle Jaque Hey, "Guest" Paul from Maine; Whareabouts in Maine are ye? Yarmouth heare; bunch more Folkies around Portland town, and one or two to be found about Bath as well. If'n ye gits down this way, we'd love t' do some jammin, y'heah?! Does anybody know the approximate vintage of "Shot'nin Bread"? I wonder if I'd be too out of line picking it on the ol' Minstrel banjo at a Civil-War reenactment. And you think that "Shot'nin Bread" is "Un-PC"?; you oughtta see some of the old original "forbidden verses" of "Oh Susanna" by Stephen Foster! |
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12 Feb 02 - 11:54 PM (#648852) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shortnin Bread (from Paul in Maine) From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Tale from White, American Negro Folk Songs: A Negress being tried before Judge Crutchfield in Richmond, VA (1910s) for being intoxicated. The judge asked her what she did when she was drunk. She replied that she sang "Shortnin' bread." The judge ordered her to sing it. When she got down to the skillet, the judge sang: "$5.00 for the skillet, $5.00 for the lid, $10.00 fine for the shortening bread." The Trad. Ballad Index only dates the song to 1915 (collected from white singers). Probably not older than 1900. |
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13 Feb 02 - 04:25 AM (#648934) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Shortnin Bread (from Paul in Maine) From: masato sakurai For more info, CLICK HERE (The Fiddler's Companion). ~Masato |