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08 Oct 97 - 07:04 AM (#14237) Subject: Lyr Add: MARY FROM DUNGLOE From: Wolfgang Hell Quite a sentimental Irish song (and tune) this is, played disproportionally often during the Mary from Dungloe Festival (Source: Folksongs and ballads popular in Ireland Vol. 1; all places mentioned, except "Amerikay" [sic], are in Co. Donegal): MARY FROM DUNGLOE
1. Oh, then fare ye well, sweet Donegal, the Rosses and Gweedore.
2. Oh my love is tall and handsome and her age is scarce eighteen,
3. If I was at home in sweet Dungloe a letter I would write,
4. Ah, then Mary, you're my hearts delight, my pride and only care,
5. And I wished I was in sweet Dungloe and seated on the grass. Wolfgang |
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08 Oct 97 - 07:23 AM (#14242) Subject: RE: ADD: Mary from Dungloe From: alison Hi Beautiful song about a beautiful part of the world. (Can also be sung to the tune of "Dives and Lazarus"...also know as "Kingsfold" in some hymn books.) Slainte Alison |
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29 Jul 99 - 04:27 AM (#100401) Subject: Tune Add: MARY FROM DUNGLOE From: John in Brisbane This is not in the DT. I copied the lyrics down somewhere, but can't find them tonight. I have no info on this song, in fact I don't know whether it is sung as an air or a rollicking tenor banjo driven song. I opted for the slower tempo as I notated it, but would appreciate some feedback. Regards, John.
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29 Jul 99 - 05:00 AM (#100406) Subject: Lyr Add: MARY FROM DUNGLOE From: alison HiJohn, It's a slow ballad. Mary from Dungloe
1. Oh, then fare ye well, sweet Donegal, the Rosses and Gweedore.
5. And I wished I was in sweet Dungloe and seated on the grass.
Slainte alison |
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29 Sep 04 - 03:46 PM (#1284265) Subject: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: GUEST,Jaze Does anyone have any info on this song. I have it as an instumental by Phil Coulter and it is the most beautiful melody. Anyone know any good versions with the lyrics? Thanks in advance. |
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29 Sep 04 - 04:00 PM (#1284276) Subject: ADD: Mary From Dungloe From: mg One of my favorites. It was on a jukebox in a Greek pizza parlor in Newfoundland I first heard it. Words as I recall and sing: MARY FROM DUNGLOE Fare thee well sweet Donegal the Rosses and Greenore??? I'm crossing the main ocean where foaming billows roar It breaks my heart from you to part where we spent many happy days Fairwell to kind relations I am bound for Americae. Mary you're my heart's delight my pride and only care It was your cruel father would not let me stay here But abscence makes the heart grow fond so when I am over the main May the Lord protect you darling girl until I return again Then I wish I was in sweet Dunloe and seated on the grass And by my side a bottle of wine and on my knee a lass I'd call for liquor of the best and pay before I'd go And I'd roll my Mary in my arms in the town of sweet Dunloe (which I always screw up and say Sweet and Low..probably shouldn't have said so because now ..who knows..) Many similarities to Star of Logy Bay. mg |
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29 Sep 04 - 04:30 PM (#1284290) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: alanabit I recall Colum Sands singing this (I think) at a session in Cologne some twenty five years ago. I don't know if he ever recorded it, but as he's a very charming and talented man, I should ask him if you see him. Johnny Coppin certainly used to do it really well. Maybe he has recorded it at some stage. |
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29 Sep 04 - 09:05 PM (#1284521) Subject: Lyr Add: MARY FROM DUNGLOE From: Reiver 2 I know the Irish Rovers, a B.C. Canada group, sang it on at least two of their early recordings. One was an album called, "Emigrate! Emigrate." I think I may have it somewhere by someone else, but can't put my hand on it just now. Reiver 1 and I used to sing it and I'm sure we learned it from the Irish Rovers. Our lyrics were very close to what Mary Garvey posted. I have a set of books that I bought in Ireland a few years ago called "Folksongs & Ballads Popular in Ireland" and the song is in Vol I. The only note with the song says "Already several generations old when it was noted down in 1913. A very tuneful Co. Donegal song." No author is given. The lyrics in the book are as we (Reivers) and the Irish Rovers sang them except there are a couple extra verses which we didn't sing (verses 2 & 3); MARY FROM DUNGLOE Oh, then fare ye well sweet Donegal, the Rosses and Gweedore. I'm crossing o'er the ocean, where the foaming billows roar. It breaks my heart from you to part, where I spent many happy days. Farewell to kind relations for I'm bound to Amerikay. Oh, my love is tall and handsome and her age is scarce eighteen. She far exceeds all other fair maids when she trips over the green. Her lovely neck and shoulders are fairer than the snow; 'Till the day I die, I'll ne'er deny my Mary from Dungloe. If I was at home in sweet Dungloe, a letter I would write. Kind thought would fill my bosom for Mary, my delight. 'Tis in her father's garden the fairest violets grow, And 'twas there I came to court the maid, my Mary from Dungloe. Ah, then Mary you're my heart's delight, my pride and only care. It was your cruel father would not let me stay there. But absence makes the heart grow fond and when I am over the main, May the Lord protect my darlin' girl, 'till I return again. And I wish I was in sweet Dungloe and seated on the grass. And by my side a bottle of wine and on my knee my lass. I'd call for liquor of the best and I'd pay before I would go, And I'd roll my Mary in my arms in the town of sweet Dungloe. It's a lovely song, for sure! Reiver 2 |
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29 Sep 04 - 09:54 PM (#1284559) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: Malcolm Douglas That's exactly the text posted here by Wolfgang some years ago from the same book, and now in the DT (see links above), apart from a changed word or two. It was copied from Colm O Lochlainn, Irish Street Ballads, Dublin: Three Candles, 1939, 148-9. O Lochlainn noted: "Learnt from W Feenan, fisherman of Ardglass, 1913. He had learnt it from a Donegal girl; a variant of the air was sung to another ballad - 'Donegal's the place for all, 'tis there I'd like to be.' I gave this to D J O'S who printed it in IFS [Journal of the Irish Folk Song Society] xviii, [1929] 29." That would appear to be the song's earliest appearance in print, though much of it is obviously modelled on earlier songs. It would a sad thing if the book you mention didn't bother to acknowledge O Lochlainn and the sources he took care to credit. |
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30 Sep 04 - 06:53 AM (#1284778) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: GUEST,Philippa I think the group Sweeney's Men made this song popular, singing it in harmony. The song is well-known in Ireland. I also have it from Ó Lochlainn's "Irish Street Ballads", though I change a line or two and add a verse borrowed from another song. |
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30 Sep 04 - 07:38 AM (#1284794) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: A Wandering Minstrel Show of Hands do two versions. One the straight song sung by Phil Beer (on Live at the Albert Hall?) and one where they use it as a counterpoint to Ralph McTells "the Setting" (on Cold Cuts). A really haunting melody |
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30 Sep 04 - 07:48 AM (#1284798) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: GUEST,Ard Mhacha The recording by Emmett Spiceland made around the late 1960s is my favourite rendering of this lovely song. |
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30 Sep 04 - 01:32 PM (#1285050) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: Reiver 2 Malcolm, I agree, the note in the book I have should have included the connection with Colm O Lochlainn. The note you quoted from him in Irish Street Ballads is much more helpful than the one from my book which, essentially, says nothing at all and is useless (except, perhaps, for the 1913 date). All the notes in the books I referred to (4 volumes) are brief and generally unhelpful, more's the pity. Reiver 2 |
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30 Sep 04 - 01:41 PM (#1285061) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: GUEST,nickr90 Yes I vote for Emmett Spiceland great version there is one fantastic chord change in their original recording that makes the song. The sang it to win a ballad competition in Wexford way back when folk was king |
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30 Sep 04 - 02:00 PM (#1285081) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: Reiver 2 Perhaps I was too negative about the notes in these little books. I just looked them over and although my comments are accurate for most of the songs, a few of them are much more informative. Also, I forgot to mention an overall note which the editor/collector, John Loesberg, includes which says: "Although in no way meant to be comprehensive, the following notes will give, as far as relevant and traceable, some idea of the background of each song. "Rather than repeating the same at each entry, it must be said from the outset that the three original Irish folk-groups, who nearly single-handedly were responsible for much of the revival, The McPeake Family, The Dubliners and Tommy Makem with the Clancy Brothers, covered many of the songs in this collection with their own inimitable versions. Many of their early recordings are still available and one could do worse than to be guided by these enthusiastic, if at times, stagey performances. "Only after the revival settled in a bit, were we able to hear the old country singers, the ones who had acted for so long as the true repository for all these wonderful songs. Many of these singers have now been recorded and their voices may be heard again. "Apart from the recordings, mention must be made of collectors such as Joyce, Colm O'Lochlainn and James N. Healy, who first published the song books and collections that in many ways formed the backbone of the re-found repertoire." I still would feel much better if Loesberg had been more explicit in tying individual songs to sources and background. Reiver 2 |
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30 Sep 04 - 11:48 PM (#1285593) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: GUEST,Alan Ross Daniel O' Donnell had a 400,000 selling version on the Album 'From the Heart' currently available as a double CD with 'thoughts of home'. His version is also available on a number of compilations. His version recorded in 1988, issued in the States in 2003 - is probably one of the largest selling of this title -- but I don't think that folk musicians necessarily appreciate that! |
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01 Oct 04 - 08:51 AM (#1285929) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: breezy if it spreads the word further afield it must be a gudting |
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01 Oct 04 - 11:53 AM (#1286135) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: GUEST,Lighter at work Belfast singer David Hammond recorded this beautifully in the early or mid-sixties. That's when I first heard it. Can't recall album name. |
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01 Oct 04 - 09:09 PM (#1286573) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: jaze Strangely enough, I just found a cd in a cut out bin that has this song on it! It's done by someone named Sean Dynes. Such a beautiful song and great to hear the lyrics.Thanks for all the information. |
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02 Oct 04 - 05:25 AM (#1286720) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary From Dungloe From: GUEST,Ard Mahcha Sean Dynes from Coalisland County Tyrone Ireland, Sean made a few LP`s in the late 60s early 70s, sadly Sean died at a comparatively young age in the 1970s. |
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17 Apr 08 - 12:58 PM (#2318398) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: GUEST,Gearoid It's Mary from DUNLOE, NOT DUNGLOE |
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17 Apr 08 - 01:02 PM (#2318400) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: irishenglish No, It's Dungloe, in Donegal. That is absolutely how you spell it |
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17 Apr 08 - 01:13 PM (#2318412) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: ard mhacha Yes Dungloe, An Clohan Liath = The grey stone. |
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17 Apr 08 - 01:55 PM (#2318456) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: Geoff Wallis OK, it's spelt Dungloe, but that's not how the town's name is pronounced. Forget the 'g'. |
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17 Apr 08 - 02:01 PM (#2318469) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: irishenglish I doubt many people would pronounce it as DUN-GLOW-I think most people would make it a silent G. |
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17 Apr 08 - 02:18 PM (#2318485) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: An Buachaill Caol Dubh The air is surely best done slowly, especially since it gives some opportunities for embellishments not unlike those practised by Gaelic Sean nOs singers. The only set of it I've ever seen in print (I learnt it by ear, from a Donegal Forestry worker, many years ago) is in Colm O'Lochlainn's "Irish Street Ballads", and it's a very chaste setting. According to a recent BBC TV documentary on Irish Traditional Music, it achieved wide popularity when a recording was made in the 1960s (perhaps by John Kerr?). |
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17 Apr 08 - 03:34 PM (#2318563) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: MartinRyan Sweeney's Men? |
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17 Apr 08 - 03:39 PM (#2318569) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: MartinRyan No - Emmett Spiceland. Sorry. Regards |
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17 Apr 08 - 04:16 PM (#2318611) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: irishenglish Emmett Spiceland featuring who trivia buffs???????? |
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17 Apr 08 - 04:23 PM (#2318621) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: GUEST donal lunny for one... and yes, a great version... not a bad one either was Christy Moore duetting it with Daniel O'D. on the late late show in 1994 ;o))) |
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17 Apr 08 - 04:30 PM (#2318629) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: irishenglish Well Done....pint of Guinness for Guest! Mr. Lunny indeed! |
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17 Apr 08 - 04:44 PM (#2318646) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: GUEST That would be the most expensive pint EVER for you if it had to travel so you're excused... thank you anyway... ;o) |
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18 Apr 08 - 05:11 AM (#2319054) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: quokka Show of Hands do a beautiful version of this song |
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18 Apr 08 - 05:18 AM (#2319058) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: ard mhacha Emmett spiceland No1 version, go to YT for proof. |
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22 Apr 08 - 12:53 PM (#2322668) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: GUEST,machree01 Here is Emmett Spiceland Group singing Mary From Dungloe, the best version, they had a No. 1 in the Irish charts 1968. http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=4lSYk4v1wk0 |
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22 Apr 08 - 05:06 PM (#2322964) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: ard mhacha Machree they were one of the best folk groups ever, that Mary from Dungloe recording will always be No1. |
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03 Jul 09 - 11:13 PM (#2671194) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: GUEST,lizzy195 ANTHONY KEARNS SANG THIS SONG ON THE PBS SPECIAL IN AUG. OF 2006..SOOO VERY BEAUTIFUL !!I HAD THE DVD BUT CANT FIND IT ..IT WAS DONE IN NEW YORK BUT TAPED IN IRELAND.. |
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11 Jul 09 - 11:28 PM (#2677973) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: Jim Dixon There's an article about Emmet-Spiceland at Irish-Showbands.com. (Note the web site is inconsistent about how to spell Emmet/Emmett.) |
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05 Jul 12 - 08:12 AM (#3372277) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Mary from Dungloe From: GUEST It is spelt "Dungloe" but pronounced "Dunloe"My Irish cousins who were born and bred there ,will confirm! |
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21 Nov 22 - 06:36 PM (#4158307) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary from Dungloe From: Joe Offer Joe - do cleanup |
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21 Nov 22 - 06:40 PM (#4158310) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary from Dungloe From: Bill D You think Joe will pay any attention? ;>) |
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21 Nov 22 - 07:14 PM (#4158318) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary from Dungloe From: Felipa what needed to be cleaned, Joe? |
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22 Nov 22 - 11:03 AM (#4158381) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary from Dungloe From: pattyClink Just want to say I'm glad Felipa sang this for us, I had a long lost version on tape that I loved, and did not even know it was by Emmett Spiceland group, now I've learned a bit about their history. They seem to have been ignored on this side of the pond compared to more promoted groups. |
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25 Nov 22 - 07:58 AM (#4158697) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary from Dungloe From: GUEST,Joe Tomrud Emmet Spiceland were an amalgamation of the Emmet and Spiceland folk groups, and when they recorded they comprised of English born brothers Brian and Michael Byrne and the boul' Dónal Lunny from Newbridge in County Kildare. Brian Byrne took the lead vocals on "Mary from Dungloe. Note Emmet is spelled with one "t", as in the surname of the patriot Robert Emmet, executed in 1803. Brian Byrne later made a solo album "Brian Byrne" on Hawk Records (HALP 105), and I would love to get a digital copy of it! Little known fact department; In 1989 a band called Marxman was founded in London, and among it's members was Oisín Lunny (son of Dónal) and Michael Byrne (AKA (MC) Hollis) son of (one of) the Byrnes. Their album "33 Revolutions per Minute" is bloody good, but might scare some of the more delicate members of the Mudcat. |
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25 Nov 22 - 10:24 AM (#4158707) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary from Dungloe From: pattyClink Thanks, Mr. T! Great background info. |
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28 Nov 22 - 02:15 PM (#4159075) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary from Dungloe From: GUEST,mayomick Christy Moore said the song ,as a folksong, was "rescued" by himself and Donal lummey from a twee country and western dance- hall arrangement had been used in the fifties. |
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28 Nov 22 - 03:10 PM (#4159081) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary from Dungloe From: pattyClink That's great to know too, but, I'm afraid Daniel O'Donnell has since recaptured the castle! |
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16 Dec 22 - 01:34 PM (#4159485) Subject: RE: Origins: Mary from Dungloe From: GUEST,Beachcomber I met Brian Byrne in Mooney's Pub, in Ring, Co.Waterford, many years ago and he said that he intended going to live in Montpelier, France. Wonder if he is still living there ? |