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07 Feb 01 - 03:32 AM (#391939) Subject: Scottish Traditional Songs From: GUEST,PBC I'm looking for the music score for "I Know Where I'm Going" - any takers?? |
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07 Feb 01 - 03:50 AM (#391940) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: Wolfgang I know where I'm going Wolfgang |
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07 Feb 01 - 01:34 PM (#392312) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: GUEST,Bruce O. Actually that one's Irish, and is in Herbert Hughes' 'Irish County Songs', I, p. 22 (1909). For related Scots, English, and American songs see "Ay waukin, Oh" in the Scarce Songs 1 file on my website. |
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07 Feb 01 - 04:52 PM (#392509) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: GUEST,Lexyladee@aol.com Looking for translation of Aiken Drum, Version 1. ("There was a man who lived in oor toon.") With words like soger?, guide lang kail?, haggis bag?, guid saut meat? Athole brose?, etc. Also looking for any other info on this piece. THANKS! ;-) |
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07 Feb 01 - 04:55 PM (#392517) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: MMario here?
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07 Feb 01 - 05:09 PM (#392527) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: Snuffy Lexyladee, try these:
soger = soldier Wassail! V |
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07 Feb 01 - 05:38 PM (#392551) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: GUEST,Bruce O. Whoops! That should have been 'Irish Country Songs' in my post above. The song was said by Hughes to be from Antrim. |
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07 Feb 01 - 06:22 PM (#392594) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: GUEST,Ewan McVicar Bruce What do you think of the relationship between I Know Where I'm Going and The Leabob's Lassie, of which there is a nice version in The Scottish Folksinger, collated from Greig Duncan sources? |
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07 Feb 01 - 06:49 PM (#392619) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: GUEST,khughes@monitor.net Hi -- If I remember right, Atholl Brose is a drink made from whiskey, cream and oatmeal. Great stuff. Kim |
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07 Feb 01 - 08:18 PM (#392691) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: GUEST,Bruce O. Ewan, I've been puzzling over ther relationships between all the related songs on my website for over 30 years. There's barely enough of "I know where I'm going" to identify it with all the others. There are roughly three distinct tunes for all the songs with overlapping verses. Fragments of the song are in Herd's MSS but the earliest tune is that for "Jess Macpharlane", that appeared just before "Ay waukin, Oh" was published in 'The Scots Musical Museum'. C. K. Sharpe said Jess MacPharlane was a celebrated Edinburgh beauty of the 1740s, but I've never seen any note of the song so early (and I looked hard). If he's correct that may have spawned the other songs. (I contributed the song to 'Folk Music Journal' 1968, in response to an earlier note, 1966, that the "Licht Bob' Honey" (Greig collection) was to the same tune as "Ay waukin, Oh". [I have the 7 vols. of Grieg-Duncan, and have vol. 8 on order.] I just don't know if there was some early ballad, 1750 or earlier, that later songs borrowed from, or whether just a few verses at a time were borrowed for one song from another. Do look at all on my website, were I've given many and noted others.
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07 Feb 01 - 08:59 PM (#392726) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: Metchosin this from the Newcomers Permathread might also prove useful click here |
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08 Feb 01 - 12:06 AM (#392857) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: GUEST,Fred This is another good source for Scottish, Irish, English and American folksongs. Usually has lots of good historical and other info as well, plus some downloadable midi arrangements of lots of them. http://www.contemplator.com/folk.html |
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08 Feb 01 - 10:35 AM (#393132) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: GUEST,Ewan McVicar Bruce, thanks for that. I've looked at much material on your website over the months, but I knew you'd be kind enough to shorten my search this time. I also appreciate your remarks as I recall them that people should buy Grieg Duncan. Volume 8 should with any luck leave the stocks soon. My involvement with the kids songs finished over a year ago, but Emily Lyle and Kath Campbell are still at work. Roll on the day. |
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08 Feb 01 - 11:48 AM (#393186) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: Seany Bruce, Can you give the URL for the web-site that has the scarce songs please. Does anyone know what a 'fail dyke' is, as mentioned in the Twa Corbies (I've read related threads already). I have done dry stane dyking in Glasgows Green Bank Gardens but have no idea what a fail dyke is. Cheers.
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08 Feb 01 - 03:10 PM (#393414) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: GUEST Bruce Olson's website is in Mucat's Links. |
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08 Feb 01 - 03:16 PM (#393422) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: MMario bruce's site url=http://users.erols.com/olsonw/
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08 Feb 01 - 03:17 PM (#393425) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: Metchosin Seany check my link to the glossary of Scottish words above
fail = turf |
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09 Feb 01 - 07:51 AM (#393946) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: Mikey joe Seany I think a fail dyke is a broken ditch/wall. It's in Pawkie Paiterson As for Staney Stewart he's often scacre a stanes And for to mend his auld fail dyke I'll leave him my auld banes I think anyway Mj |
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09 Feb 01 - 09:36 AM (#394047) Subject: RE: Scottish Traditional Songs From: Seany Thanks, I'm going with turf dyke - don't they still have these on the National Trust owned proposed Culloden battle site ? |