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Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)

26 Oct 97 - 12:19 AM (#15236)
Subject: YWOMM, sung by The We Five
From: Shula

Dear all,

Seems like just the song to return to the Mudcat with, after a three-day absence, and BK mentioned it in the Chatroom thread, so I thought to give it a campsite of its own. Remember this sung by a one-album-wonder group called The We Five, featuring a fantastic alto (and only) female lead singer. Anybody know more? Did this woman drop off the planet? Did she ever record anything else? And who the dickens WAS she? (Lord, how I loathe having a failing memory!)

Salutations,

Shula


26 Oct 97 - 01:05 AM (#15238)
Subject: Lyr Add: YOU WERE ON MY MIND (Sylvia Fricker)
From: Joe Offer

I see that these lyrics aren't in the database. gives me a good excuse to post them, hoping that I haven't already posted them in the forum:

YOU WERE ON MY MIND
-Sylvia Fricker, 1964
(as recorded by Ian & Sylvia)

Woke up this morning, you were on my mind
And you were on my mind
Got some aches and got some pains and
Got some wounds to bind

Went to the corner, just to ease my pain
It was just to ease my pain
I got drunk and I got sick and
I came home again.

I got a feelin' down in my shoes
It's a way down in my shoes
Got to move on, got to travel
Walk away my blues.
________________________
(as recorded by We Five)
When I woke up this morning, you were on my mind
And you were on my mind
I got troubles, oh
I got worries, oh
I got wounds to bind

So I went to the corner, just to ease my pain
Just to ease my pain
I got troubles, oh
I got worries, oh
I came home again.

But I woke up this morning, you were on my mind
And you were on my mind
I got troubles, oh
I got worries, oh
I got wounds to bind

And I got a feelin' down in my shoes
I said, way down in my shoes
I got to ramble, I got to move on*
I gotta walk away my blues.

So I woke up this morning, you were on my mind
And you were on my mind
I got troubles, oh
I got worries, oh
I got wounds to bind

*this line is very hard to understand - it could be anything.


26 Oct 97 - 01:24 AM (#15240)
Subject: We Five
From: Joe Offer

I believe We Five recorded four albums. Last year, the Collector's Choice label came out with a CD with the "You Were On My Mind" and "Make Someone Happy" albums. It's available from Collector's Choice (800)923-1122, or from cdnow.com (there's also a great double album from the Pozo-Seco Singers, for those of us who like the easy-listening variety of "folk rock").
Oy, the things I do for you, Shula - I had to get out a magnifying glass to read the album notes. Members of the group were Jerry Burgan, Bob Jones, Pete Fullerton, Beverly Bevens, and Mike Stewart (I think I heard he was the brother of John Stewart of the Kingston Trio). Three of the four males went to the University of San Francisco, and 3 of 4 butnothesame males went to Mt. San Antonio College in Los Angeles County. And Beverly Bevens just went to a junior college in Orange County, but she had a fabulous voice. And they were never heard from again, except for their one song that gets played on oldies stations occasionally. I really like their two albums, and I hope the other two get reissued.
-Joe-


26 Oct 97 - 04:13 PM (#15244)
Subject: RE:
From: Dale Rose

Well, Joe covered the We Five aspect way better than I possibly could have, but I will add some Sylvia Fricker Tyson stuff. This was reportedly the first song she ever wrote, and it first appeared on the third Ian and Sylvia album,Northern Journey in 1964, the first album after their marriage. A live recording in 1965, a folk/ROCK version in 1970, and a solo recording in 1989 may not be the complete discography, but it is probably close.

From the liner notes of Live At Newport: She said, "I wrote it in New York at the Earl Hotel where we were staying. Its influence came from gospel stuff I was listening to all the time." In 1965 it was covered by the California pop/folk group, We Five, who took it to number 3 on the Billboard Hot 100 chart.

Available on CD:

Four Strong Winds Ian & Sylvia, Vanguard 79154, 1964.

Live At Newport Ian & Sylvia, Vanguard 77020, 1996. (from The Newport Folk Festival, 1963 and 1965, mostly previously unreleased)

Long Long Time Ian & Sylvia, Vanguard 79478, 1994. (Compilation of MGM, Columbia, and Ampex albums from the period 1967-1971)

Sylvia Tyson Sylvia Tyson, Stony Plain 1140, 1989. (Canadian issue, but available elsewhere if you look hard enough, and well worth the effort)

Available (naturally!) on their Greatest Hits, various anthologies, etc. as well.

Checking at Music Boulevard turns up 16 recordings also including Dash Riprock, Judy Roderick, Brandywine Singers, Barry McGuire, Crispian St. Peters, and Jay and the Americans.


27 Oct 97 - 07:44 PM (#15338)
Subject: RE:
From: Shula

Dear Joe and Dale,

Thanks SO much! Located one album; will be on he lookout for the others. Only one more question: Did Beverly Bevins ever record anything AFTER her brief stint with "The We Five"? (That VOICE!)

Thanks again,

Shula


28 Oct 97 - 01:19 AM (#15374)
Subject: RE:
From: BK

God, I hope so!! this is really fantastic - I'm going to get the We Five CD's as soon as I can. I have long been an Ian & Sylvia fan and liked the song when I first heard it there, but feel the definitive version was by the We Five. I also think they do the definitive - and truly fantastic - version of "cast your fate to the wind." I can't rremember which of their albums it's on, so I hope it's on the CD.

Now if only..... some of my other favorite 60's stuff will just get re-released on CD, such as... any/all of the Sandpipers albums, the original Brazil '66, with Astrud Gilberto, etc.. ALL (I would fervently hope) of the Joe & Eddie albums... would be a reasonable start on heaven, and of course, the rest of the original We Five - I have a We Five album apparently released later without Beverly Bevens (I thought it was Bivens, as in a "Bivens' action" - civil rights suit based on "deliberate indifference.") Seriously, if anyone knows abt some of these other albums in CD format, I hope they post it.

Shula - join the failing memory chorus - I've always had one..

Cheers, and thanks, Joe, for the super information.. BK


28 Oct 97 - 02:05 AM (#15379)
Subject: RE:
From: Joe Offer

Well, BK, Collectors Choice has an import CD of "Guantanamera" by the Sandpipers, but it's $24. Stick with the Pozo Seco Singers for now, and the Sandpipers will come out soon. I swear I've seen Brasil '66 CD's, but I don't know where. Astrud Gilberto on Brasil '66? Gee I didn't know that. No wonder that lead voice sounded familiar.
Oh, by the way, BK, We Five and Pozo Seco Singers are both on sale this month at Collectors' Choice, www.ccmusic.com.

-Joe Offer-


28 Oct 97 - 10:25 PM (#15442)
Subject: RE:
From: rich r

A little more on the song and nothing new about We Five other than that my college roommate had 2 of their albums and I once had copies on reel to reel tape that has since disntegrated. Ah the old Wollensack.

I think my favorite version of You Were On My MInd was done by the Chad Mitchell Trio on their "Typical American Boys" album. Their version is like the original Ian & Sylvia version, rather than We Five's. The later recording by Ian & Sylvia bore much more resemblance to the We Five lyrics and phrasing than it did to the original on "Northern Journey". The album was called: Ian & Sylvia and The Great Speckled Bird - You Were On My Mind (Columbia KC 31337, 1972). The Sylvia Tyson CD is available in the USA as "Sylvia Tyson - You Were On My Mind", I don't have the number here because the CD is in my office and I'm not (unlike some other federal employees that frequent and who shall remain nameless [starts with the 6th note on the scale] I don't log on from work ). That CD also contains both English and French versions of "Pepere's Mill" which was also on Quartette's first recording.

rich r


28 Oct 97 - 11:52 PM (#15447)
Subject: RE:
From: BK

Joe - will surf over to ccmusic.com as soon as I finish here - probably instead of writing memo's for tomorrow's staff meetings.. oh, well... can't work all the time. 11 hrs at the work-20 should be enough..

Remember the failing memory; as best I can recall - for what that's worth - Astrud Gilbertio was with Brazil '66 before going on her own, and/or teaming up with... can't remember his name, but he was a well known composer-performer in the latin world; I think there was also another long blonde-looking gal. For some reason I want to think of her name as ??Lonnie?? Lannie?? or something like that.. Makes me want to dig out the old albums to see if anything I recall is right... Right!.. as soon as the memo's are done, (and whenever I can find the boxes the albums are in!).

rich - I only just found out about Quartette, and the death of one of the founding members, very sad, but I'm certainly looking foreward to hearing them.. I hope (expect?) they will be performing outside of Canada.

Cheers, and thanks again, BK


29 Oct 97 - 02:20 AM (#15459)
Subject: RE:
From: Joe Offer

BK, if I have this right, Astrud was married to Brazilian guitarist-singer Joao Gilberto, and they performed with composer Antonio Carlos Jobim. The three made the famous recording of "Girl from Ipanema" with Stan Getz in 1963 - before Brasil '66. Oh, what a voice that woman had.
-Joe Offer-


23 Oct 98 - 04:04 PM (#42984)
Subject: You were on my mind?
From: Sigp@woodburnk12.or.us

Has anybody got the lyrics (and chords) to the old Silvia Tyson song?


23 Oct 98 - 04:12 PM (#42986)
Subject: RE: You were on my mind?
From: Joe Offer

Click here for a thread with lyrics, but no chords.
-Joe Offer-


23 Oct 98 - 07:16 PM (#42999)
Subject: Lyr Add: YOU WERE ON MY MIND (Sylvia Fricker)
From:

YOU WERE ON MY MIND
-Sylvia Fricker, 1964
(as recorded by Ian & Sylvia)

(C)Woke up this morning, (F)you were (G)on my (C)mind
And (F)you were (C)on my (G)mind
(C)(F)Got some (C)aches and (F)got some (C)pains and
(F)Got some (C)wounds to (G)bind

Went to the (C)corner, just to ease my pain
It was just to ease my pain
I got drunk and I got sick and
I came home again.

I got a feelin' down in my shoes
It's a way down in my shoes
Got to move on, got to travel
Walk away my blues.

This is sort of Ian and Sylvia's version. It is hard for me to get We Five out of my head. RUS has some worse version that combines the two. Obviously, it would be simpler if I could play Autoharp and 12 string at the same time.

Roger in Baltimore

HTML line breaks added. --JoeClone, 23-May-02.


24 Oct 98 - 12:34 AM (#43032)
Subject: RE: You were on my mind?
From: rich r

What is interesting about the song is that Ian & Sylvia recorded the version described by Roger on their "Northern Journey" album, but the version published in the "Ian & Sylvia" songbook (1965, M Witmark & Sons) could have been transcribed from the We Five hit version. The Chad Midtchell Trio (Typical American Boys) recorded a version much like the original Ian & Sylvia version . When Ian & Sylvia rerecorded it in 1972 (Ian & Sylvia and The Great Speckled Bird, You Were On My Mind) the song was like the book, i.e. the We Five phrasing. Sylvia recorded it again more recently on her solo CD "You Were On My Mind" and again it is the second version. Since I learned it before the We Five recording came out, I am biased in favor of the first version.

rich r


24 Oct 98 - 02:53 AM (#43039)
Subject: RE: You were on my mind?
From: Ritchie

There was also a version (probably nearer the We Five recording) by Crispian St.Peters which was a No.2 Smash 'hit' in the UK charts in 1966.

love and happiness

Ritchie


31 Jul 00 - 11:02 AM (#268539)
Subject: You Were On My Mind
From: GUEST,Potter

You remeber, was it We Five that did You Were On My Mind? I've since heard it with many connected but not identical lyrics--thought it was a Sylvia tune. Anyone know the lyrics, both original and We Five, as well as a little history of the song?


31 Jul 00 - 11:05 AM (#268541)
Subject: RE: You Were On My Mind
From: GUEST,Potter

Sorry, I just figured out how to access it from your archives--though there's no history as to whether this is a new interpretation of an old song.


31 Jul 00 - 11:54 AM (#268572)
Subject: RE: You Were On My Mind
From: Mike Regenstreif

"You Were On My Mind" was written, circa 1964, by Sylvia (Fricker) Tyson. She's recorded it several times on Ian & Sylvia and solo albums.

The version by the We Five sanitized some of the lyrics.

Mike Regenstreif


01 Aug 00 - 03:18 AM (#269244)
Subject: RE: You Were On My Mind
From: Rasta

I could be way wrong but I thought Michaael Stewart who Is John 'Stewarts brother John stewart of Kingston trio fame anyway his brother Mike was a member of WE FIVE and they were managed by Frank Weber in there hay day. Rastaa


01 Aug 00 - 08:51 AM (#269353)
Subject: Lyr Add: YOU WERE ON MY MIND (Sylvia Fricker)
From: mactheturk

let me give it a try...


YOU WERE ON MY MIND


Well I woke up this mornin'
you were on my mind
yes, you were on my mind
so I went to the corner
just to ease my mind
just to ease my mind

I got troubles..
I got worries..
I got wounds to bind

but I got up this mornin'
you were on my mind
yes, you were on my mind
and I got to ramble
I got to move on
I got to walk away by blues

but I woke up this mornin'.....

oh well....

mac


04 Jun 15 - 12:52 PM (#3714450)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: GUEST,Phil

Anybody else picked up a copy of Jerry Burgan's "Wounds to Bind" yet?

I'm still in the pre-Beverly Blivens chapters but it's bringing back a lot of memories about that side of the music "bidness" (good, bad and in-betweens.)

Not too shabby a read so far.


04 Jun 15 - 04:25 PM (#3714490)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: GUEST

Beverly Bivens Of We Five Returns After 40 Year Retirement 9/24/09

We Five - Softly, As I Leave You

There's a bunch of their recordings on YouTube. Bivens sounds a lot like Sylvia when she sings "You Were on My Mind."


04 Jun 15 - 09:22 PM (#3714539)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: GUEST,Lou Judson

I just have to pipe in here, as a HUGE Brazil and Bossa nova fan:

Brazil 65 - not 66! 66 was commercial pap in comparison.

First my personal story: As a lad of 14 or 15, I went to see the Smothers Brothers at the grand Masonic Auditorium in San Francisco. To my immense pleasure and surprise, the opening act was Sergio Mendes and Brazil 65! I'd never heard them before and my world was changed forever for the better. Great pianist Mendes, towering bass player Sebastaio Neto, amazing Paulinho on drums and percussion, and the most wonderful, sexy and fresh vocalist Wanda de Sah just opened up my world of music. The one and only Brazil 65 album is now on CD, and Wanda Sa has played in New York in the past few years. I don't know what became of Rosinha de Vaklencia, but she played the most exquisite nylon string guitar, better than Tom Jobim ever did...
http://www.allmusic.com/album/brasil-65-mw0000464972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN5p79FLNBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsC50SYZRc8
Search online and you'll find some real gems!
You can buy the CDs on Amazon too:

Oh darn, there goes another evening, I'll be reveling and dancing the samba the rest of the night :-)


31 Dec 15 - 11:53 AM (#3762028)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch

Lou: "Sergio Mendes and Brazil 65!"

http://i.imgur.com/hPGKX9O.jpg

1970 Mendes builds recording studio. Your boy is center-front. Carpenter on the right looks vaguely familiar from somewhere.


31 Dec 15 - 04:56 PM (#3762083)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: PHJim

The Northern Journey version is still my favourite by far, perhaps because it is the first one I heard and the "That's the way it's s'posed to sound" syndrome took hold.


31 Dec 15 - 10:57 PM (#3762131)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: beeliner

An Italian group, Equipe 84, recorded a translated version ("Io Ho In Mente Te") on the Dischi Recordi label, along with several other translated American songs of the same era.

The catalog number is MRL6053


01 Jan 16 - 03:44 AM (#3762146)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: GUEST,LynnH

This song was also recorded in the UK by a one-hit wonder called Crispian St. Peters who had the arrogance to try and convince the music press- Melody Maker, New Musical Express etc.- that he'd also written it!


01 Jan 16 - 10:21 AM (#3762204)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: GUEST,leeneia

You can hear the We Five version on Youtube here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29uNvGHsRlc

I recall hearing this in 1965. The exciting part was not the singing, it was the ominous "drumming" coming from the bass guitar. You can hear it well at the end of the video.
=================
The original suffers from Too Much Information. Why would I want to listen to this:

"I got drunk and I got sick and
I came home again."

every time I played the album?


01 Jan 16 - 10:41 AM (#3762206)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: maeve

leeneia's good link:
We Five- You Were On My Mind 1965


01 Jan 16 - 10:43 AM (#3762207)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: maeve

The sound seems better in this one: We Five - You Were On My Mind [Excellent and Best quality Original upload].mp4


01 Jan 16 - 12:20 PM (#3762217)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: voyager

@maeve - the recording you provided is snappy, up-tempo and (shall I say) - funny!
The intro starts with a drum track (with no drummer in sight). The amplified bass
and guitars have no patch cords (or amps) and finally, the blended harmonies are
delivered with no mics in sight. If this recording was lip-synced then We Five did a
great job of moving and grooving to the song.

cheers
voyager


01 Jan 16 - 03:39 PM (#3762229)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: maeve

Hi, voyager. I have no clue what might have been involved with either recording. You raise some interesting points. :)


02 Jan 16 - 12:40 PM (#3762383)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: GUEST,leeneia

It looks to me like somebody had some old TV footage and added the song from an album. And why not? The point of it is to share the music and show what the entertainers looked like.


04 Jan 16 - 01:51 AM (#3762708)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch

LynnH: "...a one-hit wonder called Crispian St. Peters who had the arrogance to try and convince the music press- Melody Maker, New Musical Express etc.- that he'd also written it!"

Apparently he had some small success at it too. In the foreword of "Wounds to Bind" Sylvia Fricker mentions she and Ian were booed in London for performing what the audience thought was Brit-Pop! On the upside she also wrote We Five/Pepsi paid for her mortgage and the kids' college education.


04 Jan 16 - 05:52 AM (#3762753)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: You Were on My Mind (Sylvia Fricker)
From: GUEST,henryp

We Five were managed by Frank Weber, the manager of the Kingston Trio. Mike Stewart, the lead singer and arranger of We Five, was the brother of John Stewart of the Kingston Trio, and wrote several songs for them.

Source; The Beat, 7 August 1965