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Pronunciation and Description

11 Mar 01 - 12:01 PM (#415210)
Subject: Pronunciation and Description
From: GUEST,Sheila

Hello! Could I get an American pronunciation, phonetically, of "Uillean" pipes? Also, what is the difference between "set" and "ceili" dancing? The lines seem to be overlapping. Thank you. And how do you pronounce "ceili"? e.g., KAYlee? from Sheila


11 Mar 01 - 12:15 PM (#415217)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: gnu

youleeahn with emphasis on you, strung together quickly. Although, this is Canadian east coast pronunciation. Wait, that's not quite right. That't southern New Brunswick pronunciation. I've heard AT LEAST thirty different accents around Atlantic Canada - about three million people. Yup, KAYlee sounds right a' me.

gnu


11 Mar 01 - 12:39 PM (#415230)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: GUEST,Sheila

Thanks, gnu. So it's YOO-lee-an in your neck of the woods. OK


11 Mar 01 - 02:12 PM (#415301)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: Murray MacLeod

In Scottish Gaelic (pronounced "GAH-lick), KAY-lee is spelt "ceilidh"

Murray


11 Mar 01 - 05:25 PM (#415435)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: Bernard

Then again, English is so ridiculous that 'ghoti' can be pronounced 'fish'!! 'gh' from 'enough' = 'f'

'o' from 'women' = 'i'

'ti' from 'reflection' = 'sh'

Aaaargh!


11 Mar 01 - 05:32 PM (#415441)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: Amos

I just heard Seamus Kennedy singing the most hilarious song called Ghoti-ing for Chicken. A real qurakup!

A


11 Mar 01 - 05:33 PM (#415443)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: Noreen

Hi Sheila,

Click here for Snuffy's description of the differences between ceili and set dancing. The rest of the thread may interest you too.

Your pronunciation of ceili is fine, but call them ill-ee-un pipes please. Couldn't tell you what the American pronunciation is though...


11 Mar 01 - 05:34 PM (#415446)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: bill\sables

The ceilidh was origionaly a gathering of music, dance, song and storytelling. We in the UK used to have Country Dances and Barn dances but with the coming of country music from the USA and Line dancing most of the people, including agents, who didn't know about folk music and dancing, thought country dancing was dancing to country music like line dancing. My agent used to send us, as a ceilidh band, to clubs where they expected cowboys. In recent years we have addopted the name ceilidh for barn dances and country dances to distinguish them from Line dances.
Bill


11 Mar 01 - 05:35 PM (#415448)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: Sorcha

Very funny Bernard! Sheila, In Kansas and Wyoming, we say Ille-un. Very close to what gnu said. I know the "y" sound should be there, but if I use it people don't know what I'm tallking about. Of course, they seldom do, anyway, so..........


17 Mar 01 - 06:24 PM (#420117)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: GUEST,Sheila

Thanks one and all, and top o' the day to everyone. I'll do my best to be linguistically correct. P.S.-I know there's been controversy over Michael Flatley and "Riverdance" but having seen it again this past week, I must tell you that I, personally, thrill to it every time! Sheila


17 Mar 01 - 07:09 PM (#420143)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: Matt_R

Yep, Sorch, I've always said it "Illin". Sounds kinda Southern, doesn't it? I've got a thrillin' for an illin'...


17 Mar 01 - 07:54 PM (#420159)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: gnu

Flatley and discord ? Pray tell, whatever do you speak of ?

What neck of the woods do you hail from ? I ask because, if you are in Erin, I would like to hear of this "controversy". Bluntly, I have heard many of my friends say that they find his nibs rather arrogant, whilst others say he can back it up, and, therefore, should be cut some slack. I would appreciate a view from the old country, or elsewhere.

gnu


17 Mar 01 - 10:04 PM (#420222)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: Bill D

Flatley is damn good, but eh rubs me the wrong way I saw him in 1975 or 1976, and even then he was jaw dropping...but even then he WAS arrogant and it was all about Flatley.

At the Smithsonian folk festival in Wash DC, he did a set with a young lady, and they were introduced as **MICHAEL FLATLEY** and Sharon from Connecticut

I can admire talent, but I can also be disappointed in how I see it being used. But, as they say, "you pays yer money and you takes yer choice"


17 Mar 01 - 10:34 PM (#420236)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: gnu

Well, how opportune. I just took a supper break and guess who was on stage on Bravo TV from an outdoor theatre in London. Himself, it was. Never knew he could play the flute, and well. He taps ok, too.

However, the blue face paint and costumes and interpretive dance were a bit too cultured for a gnu from the bog woods of Kent County, New Brunswick. I watched for an hour and fifteen minutes, but couldn't stay focused any longer. And only that long because I wouldn't form an opinion without giving anyone their due. The rest will be on tape - for how long I don't know. I can only take him in small doses. Yes, talented. Humble...well, I guess I need some culturing before I can understand some of the "interpretation". I may not know art, but I know my buddy Art wouldn't care for that performance.

goodolboygnu


17 Mar 01 - 11:28 PM (#420257)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: Matt_R

Yep, Michael Flatley was the winner of the Chicago Irish Flute Championship for 3 years running, back in his younger days. Which is pretty amazing, since he has a severe form of asthma.


17 Mar 01 - 11:54 PM (#420271)
Subject: RE: Pronunciation and Description
From: gnu

Well, I was Very impressed with his ability on the flute. And, welllll, with.... the... no, it was too...ah, er, cultural. That's Canuck for, " What the f*** is that pansy c*** ?"

I told you I was from the bog lands. You can take a gnu to the ballet, but you can't make him courtsey.

gnu

PS I hope Mikey isn't a 'Catter. If he sees my posts, I'm dead. He could kick the bog outta me no sweat !