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Looking for (oppressive love) songs...

13 Mar 01 - 10:24 PM (#417048)
Subject: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: hesperis

Oppressive Love Songs, to be precise. And preferably trad, or public domain...

So, what do you want to hear me sing?

~*sirepseh*~


13 Mar 01 - 11:14 PM (#417076)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: Amos

You mean like "I killed my girl in yonder vale" or "my boyfriend knocked me up and abandoned me" type oppression? There in the DT by the score!

A


14 Mar 01 - 03:57 AM (#417148)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: nutty

Typing - murder - into the Digitrad box at the top of the page gets you 326 songs to choose from - and you could futher refine the seach

I hate to think how many you would get if you included a Forum seach as well


14 Mar 01 - 09:04 AM (#417224)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: Noreen

@love @death brings up 85 songs; @love @murder finds 42... what sort of oppression did you have in mind, hesperis? :0)


14 Mar 01 - 09:53 AM (#417260)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: Jacob B

Yes, hesperis, you need to clarify. Did you mean "songs about oppressive love" or "songs about love which are oppressive to listen to"?


14 Mar 01 - 10:27 AM (#417286)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: Noreen

Or both...? *grin* (I've been accused of something similar...)


14 Mar 01 - 10:07 PM (#417856)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: hesperis

LOL, actually, I'm only throwing this out for the h of it!

flattop accused me of playing a set full of "opressive love songs" in the review he did of me on the Orillia Folk Society Monthly thread. I didn't think they were that oppressive!!!

I just wanted to see what 'catters would come up with. Probably "songs about love which are oppressive to listen to" would come closest to the definition.

And I want specific titles, too, not "search the DT".

What do you feel is a good "oppressive" love song, (or just a love song,) and why? And would you like to hear me sing it?

~*sirepseh*~


14 Mar 01 - 10:25 PM (#417868)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: Noreen

Would this do? Came into my head on the way home from a great sing tonight, and the word 'oppressed' rang bells... *grin*

Come all ye nymphs and ye swains, sympathise in my sorrow
And list to a poor maid who's sorely oppressed
For since Cupid forstung me with his killing arrow,
My mind is tormented, I can find no rest.
I am early repining and constantly sighing
For a handsome hero who's fairly well known
For since Adam's creation you'll find in no nation
A youth like young Edward, the Boast of Athlone.

And yes, I'd love you to have a go at it- it's a strange old song.


15 Mar 01 - 12:38 AM (#417942)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: hesperis

LOL! Interesting... Where do I find the melody? Or is it in the DT?


15 Mar 01 - 01:21 AM (#417958)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: Lonesome EJ

I knew, Dear, when I saw you
You was the only one fer me
So I locked you in a room of love
And throwed away the key
I'll bring you everything you need
You'll never have to see
Them things like friends, and other men
That come twixt you and me
I give my promise to you
Underneath the roof above
I'll never leave you lonely
In this tiny room of love

How's that for oppressive, hesp? :>}

LEJ


15 Mar 01 - 08:34 AM (#418081)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: MMario

so maybe we should ask flattop what he considers an "oppressive" love song.

I have heard sets that were like listening to audio treacle - by the end you were so saturated with sweetness that it was disgusting - though individually the songs were fine. it's just that piled on top of each other ...


15 Mar 01 - 09:46 AM (#418130)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: Noreen

Not in the DT, only in my head- not heard anyone else sing it (or come across anyone who's heard it) for 20-odd years. Could write it out on manuscript and scan it in. I've typed out the rest of the words- I'll post them in a min.


15 Mar 01 - 12:23 PM (#418235)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: Deckman

The only song, and I just remember a fragment, is: Violate me, in the violet time, In the vilest way that you can. CHEERS


15 Mar 01 - 01:03 PM (#418273)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: Irish sergeant

Hes: Tom Dooley ranks there I mean after all he dill kill Laura Foster and got his neck stretched for it. Kindest Reguards, Neil


15 Mar 01 - 01:08 PM (#418277)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: hesperis

Okay, this is getting *too* oppressive... MMario has it better than the others, I think.

Give me a few nice love songs, to even this out, ok?


15 Mar 01 - 01:08 PM (#418280)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs...
From: Kim C

This ain't PD, but one of my fave songs by the Georgia Satellites, the last great Rock-n-Roll Band of the 80s...

You got me tied down with battleship chains
Fifty foot long and a two ton anchor

;-)


03 Mar 06 - 06:09 AM (#1684176)
Subject: RE: Semi-BS: Looking for Songs
From: GUEST,Tony

Hi Noreen,
Any chance you could complete the "Boast of Athlone"? Have'nt heard it for masny years.

Tony


03 Jun 14 - 06:35 PM (#3630081)
Subject: RE: Looking for (oppressive love) songs...
From: MartinRyan

Edward the Beauty and Boast of Athlone - its own thread.

Regards


02 Feb 22 - 05:14 AM (#4134875)
Subject: RE: Looking for (oppressive love) songs...
From: raheenranger

This is my version nowadays (in case anyone is bothered)

You nymphs and swains do sympathise in my sorrow,
And pity a poor maid that's sorely oppressed
For since Cupid first stung me with his killing arrow,   
My mind is tormented, I can find no rest.
I am hourly repining and constantly sighing
For as handsome young a fellow as ever was known.
For since Adam's creation, you'll find in no nation,
A youth like young Edward, the boast of Athlone.

In the spring when the small birds they all join together,
They would charm the green groves and valleys likewise.
The refreshing breezes denote the mild weather,
The violets do spring and the primroses rise.
It was in that very season, a young man most pleasing,
His charm and affection unto me made known.
I vow and declare, my heart did ensnare,
Young Edward the beauty and boast of Athlone.

As I happened to stray, by the clear river Shannon,
Where I first saw young Edward going out for a stroll.
He saluted me most kindly, crying 'Dearest Mary Mahon',
I hope you will escort me through the dark shady groves.
I hope you won't refuse me, I pray, do excuse me.'
Those words he repeated in his soft mellow tone.
I being sorely bent on my course, straight I went
With young Edward the beauty and boast of Athlone.

I courted young Edward for better than three years,
A most modest young fellow as ever drew breath.
Until a comrade of mine our love did discover,
And soon put an end to our joy and our mirth
She told his aged mother that we went together,
And to have us parted far away from our home,
It's in grief I do relate it, the job they completed,
And banished young Edward, the boast of Athlone.

But since he is gone, may kind fortune shine on him,
And keep him from harm, wherever he may roam.
May providence protect him, and angels may guard him
Until he's safe landed on a far distant shore.
And may that unhappy girl who banished my pearl,
May she feel her remorse until her last dying moan.
And likewise his aged mother who took delight forever
In banishing young Edward the boast of Athlone.


02 Feb 22 - 05:22 AM (#4134876)
Subject: RE: Looking for (oppressive love) songs...
From: Steve Shaw

I'd rather see you dead little girl
Than to be with another man
You'd better keep your head, little girl
Cos you don't know what I am....etc.

John Lennon, Run For Your Life, a song he later expressed mucho regret about.


02 Feb 22 - 08:36 AM (#4134896)
Subject: RE: Looking for (oppressive love) songs...
From: gillymor

From Andy Irvine- There's Sure To Be a Row, using The Star of the County Down tune. Middling audio quality.


02 Feb 22 - 08:47 AM (#4134901)
Subject: RE: Looking for (oppressive love) songs...
From: gillymor

THE BLACKSMITH

A blacksmith courted me, nine months or better
He fairly won my heart, wrote me a letter
With his hammer in his hand, he looked so clever
And if I were with my love, I would live forever

Oh, where has my love gone with his cheeks like roses
He's gone across the sea gathering primroses
Will burn and scorch I fear the shining sun his beauty
And if I were with my love, I would do my duty

Strange news is come to town, strange news is carried
Sad news cried up and down, that my love is married
I wish them both much joy, though they can't hear me
And if I were with my love, I'd do my duty

What did you promise me when you lay beside me
You said you'd marry me and not deny me
If I said I'd marry you, 'twas only to try you
So bring your witness, love, and I'll not deny you

Oh, witness I have none, save God Almighty
And may he reward you well for the slighting of me
Her lips grew pale and wan; her heart did tremble
For to think she'd had one love, and he proved deceitful


Then there's Cole Porter's So in Love from Kiss Me Kate.


02 Feb 22 - 09:28 AM (#4134910)
Subject: RE: Looking for (oppressive love) songs...
From: GUEST,MaJoC the Filk

What about Tom Lehrer's "I hold your hand in mine"? Goes down wonderfully played live: starts sweet and gets progressively more interesting. (Being a Mudcat tyro, it doesn't appear I can make a link for it, but it was the top item when I did a Supersearch for the title.)

Hope this helps.


02 Feb 22 - 11:41 AM (#4134933)
Subject: RE: Looking for (oppressive love) songs...
From: Stilly River Sage

You'll find many Lehrer songs in the DT: Here's I'll Hold Your Hand In Mine

Here is a thread about his satire and if you look at the top it has links to related songs and discussions.

Tom performing it on YouTube


03 Feb 22 - 10:51 PM (#4135125)
Subject: RE: Looking for (oppressive love) songs...
From: leeneia

Here's one from the Bothy Band

Do you love an apple? Do you love a pear?
Do you love a laddie with bonnie brown hair?

Chorus (after each verse):
But still I love him, I can't deny him
I'll be with him wherever he goes

Before I got married I wore a black shawl
But since I got married I wear bugger all

He stood at the corner, a fag in his mouth
Two hands in his pockets, he whistled me out

He works at the pier for nine bob a week
Come Saturday night, he comes rolling home drunk

Before I got married I'd sport and I'd play
But now, the cradle, it gets in me way

Do you love an apple? Do you love a pear?
Do you love a laddie with bonnie brown hair?