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27 Mar 01 - 06:47 PM (#426972) Subject: looking for the origional in the pines From: GUEST,grace@vonl.com with all verses if possible |
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27 Mar 01 - 10:04 PM (#427135) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: looking for the origional in the p From: MMario there are two versions in the Digital Tradition - putting [in the pines] into the search box up in the top right corner will bring them up for you. three versions here
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27 Mar 01 - 10:16 PM (#427145) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: looking for the original in the p From: Sorcha Grace, I don't know that there even IS a "first version" of it. Did you come back and look at your first request, click here? It is usually better to try and find your first request than to start another. If you are a member you can "trace" your request and keep track of it. Membership costs you nothing except a cookie, which you can delete and refresh. "Folk" generally means there is no "first" or "final" or "definitive" version. Pick your verses. Sorry if I sound cranky tonight. I just do get a little tired of answering the same question for the same person several times. "ALL verses" is an impossibility. |
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27 Mar 01 - 10:19 PM (#427149) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: looking for the origional in the p From: MMario woops! I didn't check the forum. me bad! it isn't in the Levy sheet music collection tho... |
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20 Jun 20 - 10:55 PM (#4060451) Subject: RE: Origin: In the Pines From: Joe Offer Needs cleanup |
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23 Jun 20 - 11:19 AM (#4060966) Subject: RE: Origin: In the Pines From: GUEST,leeneia This request is from 2001. With this song, it helps to know that cemeteries are often planted with pine trees. If you're going down a two-lane highway in America, and you see tall pines outlined against the sky on top of a hill, they are probably in a cemetery. Verses I've learned that are not in the DT Them long steel rails with short cross-ties gonna carry me far from home. That lonesome track gonna take me back where a man calls his soul his own. I kissed mama's cheek in a last goodbye, now I'm lonesome as I could be. For you gave me tears and wasted years for the love you took from me. |
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23 Jun 20 - 11:49 AM (#4060969) Subject: RE: Origin: In the Pines From: Lighter Down here in Dixie, tall pines are common, but probably less so in cemeteries, which are either spread out with few trees, or in churchyards with few trees. At least that's been my impression. To me, "In the pines, where the sun never shines, etc." simply means deep in a dark pine forest, of which there are many. |
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23 Jun 20 - 05:21 PM (#4061057) Subject: RE: Origin: In the Pines From: cnd I've always assumed the general meaning of In the Pines was that the singer killed the woman/man that betrayed them, and so they are "sleeping" in the pines. Alternatively, some versions make it sound like the singer has run away to hide in the pines after murdering their partner. |
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23 Jun 20 - 06:07 PM (#4061067) Subject: RE: Origin: In the Pines From: Gallus Moll Many older churches/church-yards in Scotland have a row of Lime trees on either side of their driveway. (Don't know if it is the same in England?) Also not sure if it is common to all churches, or to certain denominations eg Scottish Episcopal? |
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24 Jun 20 - 04:36 PM (#4061220) Subject: RE: Origin: In the Pines From: leeneia I don't see or sense anything in any of these verses that has anything to do with murder. This is a song about sadness and depression. |
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24 Jun 20 - 04:50 PM (#4061221) Subject: RE: Origin: In the Pines From: GUEST,cnd Leenia, perhaps I've heard different versions than you but the implication has always been murder to me. The longest train I every saw, Went down that Georgia line. The engine passed at six o’clock And the cab went by at nine. In the pines, in the pines where the sun never shines, And I shivered when the cold winds blow. Little girl, little girl, don’t lie to me, Tell me, where’d you stay last night? I stayed in the pines where the sun never shines And I shivered when the cold winds blow. I asked my captain for the time of day, He said he throwed his watch away. It’s a long steel rail and a short cross ties, I’m on my way back home. The train run about a mile from town And it knocked my fair girl down Her hair was found in a driver’s wheel And her body has never been found (Lyrics typical to the versions I've heard copied from https://nativeground.com/pines-history-lyrics-tips-playing/) The questioning of the "little girl" and then the highly suspicious circumstances of her murder, tied to the portending introduction of the train which murders the girl really makes me think it's about murder. Of course, individual singers could adapt versions to be about sadness and loneliness, but most versions I've heard don't strike me that way. |
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24 Jun 20 - 05:03 PM (#4061223) Subject: RE: Origin: In the Pines From: The Sandman Where Did You Sleep Last Night Lead Belly My girl, my girl, don't lie to me Tell me where did you sleep last night In the pines, in the pines Where the sun don't ever shine I would shiver the whole night through My girl, my girl, where will you go I'm going where the cold wind blows In the pines, in the pines Where the sun don't ever shine I would shiver the whole night through My girl, my girl, don't you lie to me Tell me where did you sleep last night In the pines, in the pines Where the sun don't ever shine I would shiver the whole night through My husband, was a hard working man Killed a mile and a half from here His head was found in a driving wheel And his body hasn't ever been found My girl, my girl, don't you lie to me Tell me where did you sleep last night In the pines, in the pines Where the sun don't ever shine I would shiver the whole night through Source: LyricFind Songwriters: Huddie Ledbetter |
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24 Jun 20 - 07:17 PM (#4061235) Subject: RE: Origin: In the Pines From: Lighter The version I heard around 1970 was pretty much like cnd's. But I thought it described a gruesome train accident, not a murder. |
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24 Jun 20 - 07:43 PM (#4061239) Subject: RE: Origin: In the Pines From: GUEST,..gargoyle I always took it to mean.... a nether region of the body.. Sincerely, Gargoyle |