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Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?

06 Apr 00 - 09:40 PM (#208048)
Subject: Alternate tuning chords
From: GUEST,Poe

Does anyone know of any good websites with chord charts for alternate tunings? Also, does anyone know how to form F#m in open G tuning? Thanks Poe


06 Apr 00 - 09:48 PM (#208050)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate tuning chords
From: MK

Go to Paul Kucharski's website, a great resource with everything you asked for and a whole lot more.

One of the first acoustic websites I discovered when I first got on the Net, and I continue to visit it regularly.


06 Apr 00 - 09:52 PM (#208052)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate tuning chords
From: Tony Burns

Poe, Try Nut Chords software. Tell it how your guitar is tuned and let it find the chords for you.


06 Apr 00 - 10:38 PM (#208081)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate tuning chords
From: Alan of Australia

G'day,
You could also go to www.guitar-club.com and download the Guitar Chord Buster software. It'll probably do much the same as Nut Chords.

Cheers,
Alan


05 Apr 01 - 12:53 PM (#433838)
Subject: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Clinton Hammond

Anybody know of a good online resource for finding chords for alternate tunings??

I wanna throw a few more tunings into my bag of tricks, and am keen to try Open G, C, E and D...

A good place to start?

;-)


05 Apr 01 - 01:06 PM (#433855)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Peter T.

A pretty good site is www.guitarnotes.com. A subset entry on open tunings is here!

yours, Peter T.


05 Apr 01 - 01:31 PM (#433884)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Clinton Hammond

Not bad pete.. but not great...

Any other suggestions folks?

;-)


05 Apr 01 - 01:33 PM (#433887)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Mark Clark

Clinton, If your tuning makes an open chord such as the ones you mention you can find a lot of them on your own pretty easily. Of course you have fourteen right off the bat just by barring the fretts betewen the nut and the body of the guitar. From there you can add 6ths, 7ths, 9ths, 11ths, 13ths, flat the 3rd, 5th, etc. This will get you quite a good number of chords. When you're comfortable with scales in a tuning, you can start playing with chord fragments for even more variations.

Sounds like fun,

      - Mark


05 Apr 01 - 01:41 PM (#433901)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Clinton Hammond

see MarkC... If I had theory, I COULD do stuff like that.. but I'm one of those dullards that doesn't... so I need chord charts...

I'm not interested in learing theory at this point, just old chords in new tunings...

One of the reasons is voicing... The new band has 2 guitar players... and when Dan and I are both on accoustic guitar, it'd be really cool for one of us to be in a different tuning to avoid the boredom that is 2 standard tuned accoustic guitars... we already try capoing on different frets and playing different chord shapes, but something more is needed... or rather if I can find something more, it'dbe even better...

I also have this stupid dream that one day I'll be able to play like Donn Ross, Garnet Rogers and or Stephen Fearing... all heros mine, and all use alternate tunings...

;-)


05 Apr 01 - 01:43 PM (#433904)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Justa Picker

Here is another excellent resource site which features among other things, reference tuning guides for open and alternate tunings.


05 Apr 01 - 01:52 PM (#433918)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Clinton Hammond

I'd seen that one before JustaP... (isn't that a gangsta rapper?? JustaP?)

Again, not bad, but sadly lacking in updates...

HAs anyone seen the site that offers the 4 page PFD (PDF???) file of DADGAD chords? I have it and although MOST of the chords on it are finger-breakers that completly undo any of the good of playing in an open tuning, it is a wonderful resource...

;-)


05 Apr 01 - 01:58 PM (#433926)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Clinton Hammond

Nevermind... The PDF file I was talking about has left the internet... At least it did at the site -I- originally got it from...

Maybe I'll mirror it on my site if I still have the original file...

;-)


05 Apr 01 - 02:22 PM (#433948)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Clinton Hammond

There... mirrored... Go get it if ya want it...

http://members.home.net/sword4hire/Index.htm

;-)


05 Apr 01 - 02:31 PM (#433964)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Chicken Charlie

Clinton--

Work with me on this. If a person retunes his strings to a different starting point and then forces his left hand through various Yogic contortions to return all those strings to a "normal" pitch by fretting them, what has he done? Eliminated the reason for alternate tunings. I mean, it you take an EADGBE guitar, tune it to FFFFFF and then fret it back to EADGBE, will you have uniqueness or exoticism worth the effort? Maybe I'm missing something, but I think not. I have played an open G guitar against a standard and the combo does sound fuller than two standards; all I was doing was pattern-pick-cum-melody-notes.

If you just want to get out of your colleague's pitch range, what's wrong with capoing up and playing in a different key? All the theory that takes is knowing that it's only one fret from B to C and from E to F, but otherwise it's two frets from one natural to the next.

[At age 56, I have finally gotten a hint that maybe guitarists and banjo players don't HAVE to make it hard on themselves.]

The nicest thing about this advice is, it's free.

Chicken Charlie


05 Apr 01 - 03:20 PM (#434011)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Clinton Hammond

CC...

That's sorta what I was getting at... there's no point in alternat-tuning and then using chords that fret all or most of the strings... So what I'm looking for are chord charts for simple 2 and 3 finger chords for the open tunings mentioned above... They exist... I know they do... all ya gotta do is watch ANY of the players I've listed above and you'll see 'em...

There's nothing wrong with capoing.. and if you'll READ my post aboive, that's exactily what I said... I'm just looking to add something else...

We may not HAVE to make it hard on ourselves, but -I- like the challenge, and Don Ross didn't become the guitar GOD that he is today by taking the path of least resistance...


05 Apr 01 - 03:46 PM (#434042)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: JedMarum

Try this site click.


05 Apr 01 - 03:56 PM (#434051)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Roger in Baltimore

Charlie,

I heard you about not knowing music theory, but it isn't all about theory. If you know the notes of a chord, and can count frets, you can make your own chords. Open G is DGDGBD on your guitar. Obviously the G triad is composed of G, D, and B. The C triad is C, G, and E. So your guitar is in open G. Well, you have the G for the C chord on strings 3 and 5. Now comes the tricky part. You need a C and the second string is the best place to look, 'cause one step (fret) up on the second string is C. Now, we need an E. Well there are three D's here and E is just two steps (frets) up on any of those three. The joy of open tuning is you don't need to fret all three strings, just pick the 4th string and fret it up two. This little two finger chord is sort of a C (it even looks a little like a C chord). The ringing D's on strings one and six just provide a "little" different tone.

I know this seems laborious at first, figuring the triad and looking for it on the fret board, but it works.

The other joy of open tunings is to make your own chords. Put your fingers down and fiddle around. You can make some nice noises that way.

Good luck!

Roger in Baltimore


05 Apr 01 - 03:57 PM (#434052)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Peter T.

Of course, you could buy a book (shock, horror):

Off my shelf:

Hanson, Mark, Alternate Tunings Picture Chords (Accent on Music).
Sandberg, Larry, Chords and Tunings for Fretted Instruments (Oak Publ.)
Acoustic Guitar, Alternate Tuning Guitar Essentials.
Bennett, Joe, Guitar Tunings to Go (Wise Publ.)
Mann, Woody, Gig Bag Book of Alternate Tunings for All Guitarists (Amsco).

All of these are pretty good. The only one that I had to scrApe around for was the Sandberg.

yours, Peter T.


05 Apr 01 - 03:58 PM (#434054)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Clinton Hammond

Jed... that's the exact same site that JustaP posted...

Do try to stay with the class eh...


05 Apr 01 - 04:34 PM (#434087)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Clinton Hammond

Books are the step I'll take after the net.. the net is already here...

Ta' fer the list Pete!

;-)


05 Apr 01 - 10:30 PM (#434334)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Clinton Hammond

Anyone else?

;-)


06 Apr 01 - 08:02 AM (#434523)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Clinton Hammond

No?

;-)


06 Apr 01 - 09:00 AM (#434566)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: GMT

Well you could try

http://www.alanhorvath.com/ then go into 'jam' then
A's tutorials.

Don't know if that beats what you've already got.

Cheers Gary


06 Apr 01 - 09:01 AM (#434567)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: dick greenhaus

If you E-Mail me and ask for it, there's a neat freeware program that I can send you that gives the fingering for just about any chord in just about any tuning.


06 Apr 01 - 09:10 AM (#434575)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: JedMarum

Sorry y'all, for posting a link already posted by justa-picker. I hate to admit it, but I actually went through the previous posts to double check before I posted it, and I stillmissed it! Maybe I was just seconding his post!


06 Apr 01 - 09:12 AM (#434578)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Clinton Hammond

Well, DickG... I'd be all to happy to take you up on that offer, if only you'd shared with my your email addy...

Just post the url where I can download it if that's easier...

GMT, I'll give it a look

;-)


12 Apr 01 - 08:14 AM (#438883)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Roger in Baltimore

Clinton,

If you go to the Mudcat Personal Pages, you will be able to send a message to Dick. Some folks don't like to broadcast their e-mail addy's to everyone.

Good luck,

Roger in Baltimore


12 Apr 01 - 03:34 PM (#439211)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: Clinton Hammond

Ya.. ta' Roger...

I invited Dick to PM me HIS email addy and he never has...

ta' fer the reminder...

;-)


12 Apr 01 - 05:56 PM (#439330)
Subject: RE: Help: Alternate Tuning Chords?
From: dick greenhaus

Clinton Hammond. Received your message about 5:00 PM. E-mailed you the program at roughly 5:20 PM. Sorry about the delay.