Urgent Help Required!! Threat to UK Sessions

06 Apr 01 - 11:00 AM (#434631)
Subject: URGENT HELP REQUIRED!!
From: The Shambles

YOUR HELP IS REQUIREDI Please click here. UK Sessions under threat.

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06 Apr 01 - 11:03 AM (#434633)
Subject: RE: URGENT HELP REQUIRED!!
From: Fortunato

Good Luck Shambles, sorry I can't help here in Maryland.

chance

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06 Apr 01 - 11:10 AM (#434641)
Subject: RE: URGENT HELP REQUIRED!!
From: wysiwyg

Roger, perhaps a thread we can post to so that a printable set of comments can be delivered to the councillors? The thread you have clicked us to is great for background, but perhaps a pattern letter posted as a new thread for others all over the world to comment upon would be a help.

~Susan

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06 Apr 01 - 03:21 PM (#434778)
Subject: RE: URGENT HELP REQUIRED!!
From: The Shambles

Jolly good idea.

 Subject to the licensee's responsibility to ensure safety and nuisance to others, you can express yourself verbally in a public house.

 Subject to the above and with the licensee's permission you can also express yourself musically in a public house, without further licensing, such as a Public Entertainment Licence, being required.

 This licensing legislation is for the safety and interests of all members of the public, at staged Public Entertainment with performers. It can really serve no useful purpose when, it is stretched to be used to against and to limit the freedom of expression of, those very same members of the public in establishments where, their safety and interests are already ensured by the council's other statutory duties.

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06 Apr 01 - 05:31 PM (#434853)
Subject: RE: URGENT HELP REQUIRED!!
From: George Seto - [e-mail]

Hope it doesn't occur to SOCAN here in Canada! Or the appropriate bodies in the US! Wow!

Will pass it on.

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06 Apr 01 - 05:40 PM (#434855)
Subject: RE: URGENT HELP REQUIRED!!
From: George Seto - [e-mail]

This is similar to the SOCAN people fining small shops who play a cassette in the background of their store. USually they are places where tourists visit. Normally these visitors would ask about a song or singer from hearing the music.

SOCAN (Society of Composers, Authors & Music Publishers of Canada) sent a number of these small shops an invoice (not sure how much) because they were playing SOCAN registered music. The store owners, and I've heard of at least three, have declined to pay, and have decided to stop playing this music.

Sad but true.

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24 Apr 01 - 02:17 PM (#448305)
Subject: RE: URGENT HELP REQUIRED!! Threat to UK Sessions
From: The Shambles

More details here MAKING MUSIC IS ILLEGAL

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24 Apr 01 - 04:42 PM (#448388)
Subject: RE: URGENT HELP REQUIRED!! Threat to UK Sessions
From: Joe Offer

Personal opinion here, Roger. Yes, it is an important issue. However, I think it could be discussed quite well in just one thread. I don't see the value of starting one thread to discuss the matter, and then starting several other threads to advertise the first one. It gives a flavor of Spam that seems to trivialize what could be a serious and worthwhile discussion.
-Joe Offer-

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24 Apr 01 - 06:10 PM (#448466)
Subject: RE: URGENT HELP REQUIRED!! Threat to UK Sessions
From: The Shambles

Joe as there were many threads and methods to express your personal opinion in why on earth pick this one?

It would have been nice to hear what your opinion was on the issue rather that your opinion on how we are trying to address it.

Your opinion on that would probably be better in a personal message, or you could just have chosen to ignore it altogether.

You rightly say is this an important issue so why clutter it up with conversations about how we address it?

I will enter in to as much conversation about the method of addressing the issue with you or anyone who cares to in Personal Messages but will not help you to divert attention from the real issue by doing it publicly

I feel that most of the people The Mudcat really care about the right to make music and freedom of expression. I feel they will understand and I hope forgive me if the methods appear clumsy or are possibly counter-productive.

Let us please just get together and fight the enemies of free speech and not each other.

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24 Apr 01 - 07:12 PM (#448538)
Subject: RE: URGENT HELP REQUIRED!! Threat to UK Sessions
From: Irish sergeant

Roger: As I stated in the other thread. Don't know what good my help will do but I support you. Neil

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