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13 Apr 01 - 09:31 PM (#440162) Subject: 'GET A LIFE' From: GUEST Once went to a Folk Club that was overrun with 'teachers'. They corrected a song I sang because one line said something like "Fishing for the Whale." You can't fish for a Whale, I was told, 'cos its not a fish. It was, I discovered, how they were all the time. I gave up on them in the end. Similarly. I can take Mudcat in small doses, but I usually end up 'forgetting it' for six months because of the number of participants that are politically correct or that 'get onto a thread' merely to correct English or spelling. Quite enjoying Mudcat at the moment though. Particularly Clinton Hammond. "Ya wouldn't call him boring.' BS |
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13 Apr 01 - 09:37 PM (#440169) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Geoff the Duck I would! |
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13 Apr 01 - 09:43 PM (#440174) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: GUEST,boring "but I usually end up 'forgetting it for six months" Uhhh, any chance that six months is about to start now "B"?
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13 Apr 01 - 09:47 PM (#440177) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Matt_R Never trust anyone named Bull Shit. |
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13 Apr 01 - 09:47 PM (#440178) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Geoff the Duck If you are in Britain call at the Yorkshire Mudcat gathering - otherwise sweet dreams!;-) ??? |
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13 Apr 01 - 10:09 PM (#440186) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Sorcha OH! Thank you so very much for your permission!! (I thought I already had one......)It's such a relief to know that I was mistaken!!
You can come get my life if you want....endless rounds of food, dirty dishes, laundry, vacuming, errands, yard work etc. interspersed with not enough gigging......There probably are a few people out there desperate enough to trade lives with me, but I haven't met one yet. I am so glad you are willing. What did you say your name was???? |
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13 Apr 01 - 10:41 PM (#440202) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Melani I have a life. This is part of it. |
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13 Apr 01 - 11:54 PM (#440246) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Mountain Dog Like many other facets of life, this one is optional. And, as in much of life, you tend to receive in kind what you give. Be well, whether you're on sabbatical or spending time here. |
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14 Apr 01 - 12:09 AM (#440250) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: CarolC You mean like this guy did? Don't get a life, get a McGill! |
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14 Apr 01 - 12:16 AM (#440253) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: flattop Hey, Dave McGill's making coffee. And that art & fart model at the Sir Sam Steele Art Gallery. Real class! |
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14 Apr 01 - 01:27 AM (#440283) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: JedMarum LOL, Melani! Best retort I've seen on MC! |
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14 Apr 01 - 06:29 AM (#440327) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: John Routledge I am happy to reveal that Mudcat is a part of my life.GB |
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14 Apr 01 - 06:35 AM (#440330) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: kendall I rather enjoy hanging out with people who know more than I. Thats how I learn. |
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14 Apr 01 - 07:22 AM (#440335) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: nutty It's all part of life's rich pattern - we are (thankfully) all different In this part of the world we say "one man's meat is another man's poison" so if you find this is boring - go get another life elsewhere PS.I'm a retired teacher |
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14 Apr 01 - 07:40 AM (#440340) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Willie-O I gave my mom a copy of my CD...she likes it but first thing she had to tell me was "there's one grammatical error". Needless to say she's a retired ex-teacher... willie-O |
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14 Apr 01 - 07:50 AM (#440341) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: JeZeBeL I really don't have a problem with people correctin stuff I write, cos most of the time it's just a XXXX tek cos I write how I speak. I'm from Yorkshire and don't care if me grammar aint perfect. I don't care if people feel they wanna correct it, because the simple fact of life is that everyone is different, everyone speaks different, nearly evri1 looks different. And I also ENJOY cummin on ere nearli evri day to speak to all the good people who'r on this great site, and I say that you really should get out more n meet more people then, and GET A NEW LIFE!!!! This is part of my great life n I love it cos I can now go to a sesh n meet sum of the wonderful peeps that I talk to on ere. Emma Kitchen (Goin 2 b a teacher when finished degree no matter what her gramma's like!!) |
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14 Apr 01 - 08:25 AM (#440349) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: clansfolk What's wrong with "Fishing for a whale"???? I often go down to the pier and spend a day catching fish which I take home to feed my pet whale on - my Gandma never corrected me..... MY wife's a teacher - If I get it wrong the first time.......etc. Lancaster Festival was good! (it's still on - is good) Pete |
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14 Apr 01 - 08:51 AM (#440360) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Cobble Fishing for the Whale is correct, Islander's in the Pacific fish with spears so what's the difference. But does it matter, the best thing is, we all love MUDCAT if you dont why are you here. Cobble. |
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14 Apr 01 - 09:51 AM (#440376) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Frug So these people are still about in the folk clubs! I remember 30 years ago when as a very young aspiring performer, I went to a small club with my band, did a floor spot and performed a trad. song a ragtime number and finished with spoof rock 'n' roll song. At the end of the set when we enquired about a possible gig (we had gone down rather well) the organiser said we weren't folksy enough and maybe if we learnt some more trad. songs we might have a chance.........never bothered. But I was amazed at the arrogant attitude. |
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14 Apr 01 - 10:03 AM (#440382) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Mr Red clansfolk you took the puns right out of my keyboard as GBS said (oh OK George Bernard Shaw) "Those that can, do. Those that cannot, teach" to which some add "those that cannot teach, teach teachers." and the really smart arses add "we elect the rest". on June the 7th is it? |
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14 Apr 01 - 11:25 AM (#440428) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Amos Oh, and by the way, Mister BS, your first sentence is lacking an explicit subject, and the contraction " 'cos" is vulgar useage and should generally be spelled out in full. A |
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14 Apr 01 - 11:31 AM (#440434) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: mousethief Can I be the only one to have noticed that "get a life" is usually used by people who are not thinking, but reacting viscerally, to someone? I most often see it when someone is losing an argument. All of a sudden his opponent needs to "get a life." Just an observation. Alex |
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14 Apr 01 - 11:47 AM (#440444) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Little Hawk BS - Yup, folk arrogance is a pretty annoying character trait that one runs into here and there...I can recall a few occasions. As for the phrase "Get a life!" I suggest you buy yourself a parrot and teach it this phrase until the bird's got it right down. I guarantee that this will soon make you fully aware of just what a truly nasty phrase it is, and then you will probably stop inflicting it upon others. It's a rather recent phrase by the way. As I recall, it emerged in the 80's sometime. Pity about that... - LH |
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14 Apr 01 - 11:51 AM (#440447) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Amos Right, Little Hawk -- just about the same times as junk bonds and 17% prime. A |
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14 Apr 01 - 12:31 PM (#440465) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: chip a I'm pretty new to mudcat. The first thing I noticed was how helpful everyone here is. I asked a couple of questions and the response was great. The second thing I noticed was a little of what guest is fussing about. I guess my understanding of life is a little to the right of most mudcatters. To me, the p.c. thing gets a little far fetched on here sometimes. And sometimes I feel that those 'catters who pride themselves in being the most p.c. have their own groups of inferior beings to look down on. Maybe. Just a thought. But I'm not ready to hide for six months! I kinda like it here. So, thanks for having me and be gentle if I miss spell a wurd or too. Peace, Chip |
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14 Apr 01 - 12:32 PM (#440466) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: mousethief Can I blame it on Reagan then? (evil grin) Alex |
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14 Apr 01 - 12:47 PM (#440485) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Matt_R The term "'cos" is almost exclusively UK usage, so I suppose our Mysterious friend (?) is named Bullock Shite. |
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14 Apr 01 - 12:53 PM (#440490) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: mousethief I use "cos" because I like it and it's easier to type than cause. I learned it from Supertramp lyrics. (on topic!) Alex |
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14 Apr 01 - 03:40 PM (#440599) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Seamus Kennedy Some clown trolls, and lotsa people bite. (inluding I) Seamus |
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14 Apr 01 - 07:46 PM (#440728) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Little Hawk I use "cos" too. I think it should be granted official word status posthaste. - LH *AWK!!! GET A LIFE!!! GET A LIFE!!! AWRKKK!!! GET A_(Bang!)___AWWWR-R-R-R-K-K-K-!.....(Thud!)_____. There. One less parrot to listen to. Ah, the beautiful silence... |
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14 Apr 01 - 08:19 PM (#440750) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Peg Don't people this side the pond tend to use "cuz" instead of "cos"??? Just wondering. BTW the concept of having a life seems to mean having a "social life" with real flesh and blood humans... As opposed to only socializing online... |
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14 Apr 01 - 08:25 PM (#440756) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: John Routledge Peg - In the UK I understand "Get a life" to mean "Don't become a boring old fart before your time". |
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14 Apr 01 - 08:29 PM (#440759) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: death by whisky BOLLOCKS |
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14 Apr 01 - 08:34 PM (#440761) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: death by whisky A Whale is not a fish |
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14 Apr 01 - 08:50 PM (#440773) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Peg Interesting, Geordie... Here it seems people mean, when they say you have no life, that you are single and don't date much (if at all) and don't go out or to parties, etc. and spend too much time on the computer, etc.
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14 Apr 01 - 08:57 PM (#440781) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Matt_R Sounds like Peg is describing me in particular. |
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14 Apr 01 - 09:18 PM (#440793) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Peg Aw, Matt, students are a special case...especially these days (no one had computers when I was in college; now they are a sort of requirement). Having a social life need not be an organized matter; one can simply try to get out into the world and amongst humans...that seems pretty social to me... Besides my description could also apply to ME...and to any number of Mudcatters...
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14 Apr 01 - 09:21 PM (#440796) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Matt_R Thanks! Phew...thought I was beyond all hope! |
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14 Apr 01 - 09:36 PM (#440807) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Ma Fazoo Cranky Yankee and I have run into more than one "folk music Fascist" in our long , long gig. Sure, some folks just can't relax and enjoy life. I just met the Mudcat folks a few weeks ago and can't imagine where you get the impression that they would deliberately discourage another musician in any way. Some of us, including Jody and me, have warped senses of humor, but at least we HAVE senses of humor. Do not tell me to get a life. We were all given one when we were born and with it the ability to make of it what we will. I do wish you the best, no more thankless gigs, or boring people trying to teach you something. Just all the way you want things. |
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14 Apr 01 - 09:55 PM (#440816) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Sourdough Reading the first post made me smile. Isn't it nice that Guest appreciates Clinton Hammond so much. I mean that Guest was able to notice that among all the discussions currently on Mudcat, the hundred of threads, the thousands of postings, Clinton Hammond's shine out so brightly from the rest, enough to pick them out especially. Sourdough |
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14 Apr 01 - 10:01 PM (#440819) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Peg Sourdough--LOL!!!!!!! Quite right. I bought a loaf of bread in your honor today...I knew there was a reason for that. Peg |
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14 Apr 01 - 10:04 PM (#440821) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: catspaw49 Gee 'Dough..........I'd make some smartass comment here, but I'm laughing too hard................. Can we vote this as the most inane thread of the week? Spaw |
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14 Apr 01 - 10:06 PM (#440822) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Linda Mattson Hello, I don't understand the criticism voiced by Frug of the club manager who said the band could play again if they played/learned more folk songs. He was insulted because he thought they had gone over well. Speaking as a former booker, there is a difference between - being supportive of very young aspiring musicians and - booking bands for a club. If you had a rock and roll club, but the band played classical music, and you knew your patrons were primarily looking for rock and roll, would you book the band again? Maybe not. Likewise, if you had a classical concert series and a band played rock and roll, would you invite them back? Probably not. Is this a surprise? I don't think it is arrogant to book what your audience is looking for. You wouldn't stay in business if you didn't. Stretching the genre, however, is admirable. Linda "Thanks, I've got a life" M. |
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14 Apr 01 - 10:12 PM (#440824) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Metchosin Gee, we have a crab fishery on this coast, never thought of going crusting for a crab though....hmmmm....novel idea.... |
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14 Apr 01 - 10:23 PM (#440830) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: GUEST,ceiliwidow I don't know, guys....seems to me if you can "fish for a compliment" you can "fish for a whale". |
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15 Apr 01 - 12:16 AM (#440914) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Sourdough Fishing for Whales: First Prize for Useless Pedantry
I knew that the word, "Whalefish" was familiar. I ran it through the Digitrad and sure enough, what I remembered was Greenland Whale Fisheries.
"There's a whale, there's a whale, there's a whalefish he cried. To my surprise, there were three others "whalefishes", The Whale Catchers, Ranzo, and Blood Red Roses. While the distinction between whale and fish is important in biology, I think th eteachers could benefit from a class in traditional music. Sourdough
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15 Apr 01 - 12:19 AM (#440917) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Gypsy following that, wouldja go sailing for a salmon? Or sucking for an abalone? |
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15 Apr 01 - 12:21 AM (#440918) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Mountain Dog There's a version of Lady Franklin's Lament that contains the line: "In Baffin Bay, where the whalefishes blow..." |
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15 Apr 01 - 12:27 AM (#440922) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: CarolC So it looks like we have 'fishing' in a literal sense, and 'fishing' in a literary sense. Both seem valid to me. I would think that a science teacher would endorse the literal use, while a teacher of English or literature would endorse the literary use. |
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15 Apr 01 - 12:32 AM (#440928) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: catspaw49 I was wondering since the state charges so much for hunting licenses, deer permits, and all.....yet a fishing license is cheap. So suppose I took my rod and I baited the hook with a big ear of corn and cast it out into a school of deer and one of them bit on and I was to reel it in and then bash it real good with my tackle box...............Well what I'm gettin' at here is, doncha' think I could get by with only a fishing license? Spaw |
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15 Apr 01 - 12:36 AM (#440930) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: CarolC That sounds like poetic license to me, Spaw. |
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15 Apr 01 - 12:39 AM (#440931) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Sourdough Catspaw49 TBCOMN!!! (The Beer came out my nose!!) You could say you were stalking the deer. Sourdough |
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15 Apr 01 - 12:40 AM (#440932) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: GUEST,Caitrin @ home Well, 'spaw, it's definitely a better idea than trying to go the other way 'round and use buckshot on trout. |
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15 Apr 01 - 02:21 AM (#440950) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Peter Kasin The line "fishing for the whale" can be found in the song "The Bonny Ship The Diamond." If the line's in a song, why should those people in that folk club get away with "correcting" the singer? Hey, if that line's good enough for Ewan MacColl and A.L. Lloyd, ("Whaling Ballads" recording) it should be good enough for the folk clubbers. But on the question of the 'Cat, I concur with Melani. It's part of my life, a great resource, and a great place to be. -chanteyranger |
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15 Apr 01 - 03:49 AM (#440964) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Roughyed How about "while the Bonny Ship the Diamond goes a-fishing for the whale...." |
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15 Apr 01 - 03:50 AM (#440965) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Joe Offer Sourdough, I hate to say what happened to me when I read your "TBCOMN." I've been eating Polish Easter borscht. Hey, how much would it cost for us to buy Spaw a poetic license? Would it help? -Joe Offer- |
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15 Apr 01 - 06:24 AM (#440998) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Gervase Pat, that's not so wide of the mark! In my misspent youth, I went poaching with my uncle, using fishing line, a few No16 hooks and some raisins soaked in brandy. You'd flick 'em out into the coverts, wait for the birdies to peck at the raisin and then reel 'em in. in hindsight it was hideously cruel to the birds (as well as highly illegal), but to an eight-year-old a sackful of free pheasants garnered in almost total silence was an awesome night's work. And I did catch a sheep last year on a March Brown - the back-cast dropped low enough to snag the fleece of a sheep behind me and the bugger took off, stripping the line down to the backing. Oh, the shame! |
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15 Apr 01 - 06:50 AM (#441006) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: GUEST,Do you mean that in the Midwest sense? if so ..on. I used live in a small town, short way from a big city here in the USA where at the time, the term was very popular. Now this was several years ago so I hesitate to claim that is where it came from, 'but hey' from the same locale - it could! Typicaly used among certain late teen girls who had already or were in the process of moving out from the parents home. The path at the time was to get pregnant, did not matter how or by who. From this lofty Life they would get Welfare and most important an apartment of their own. These young ladies then would be described as 'Bimbos', smoking, overweight, unwashed and scantily clad foul mouthed young ladies. Ahem. If that is what you meant - then it does not apply here! So what the H****L are you on about? Hunting the Whale is the correct English. Nobody uses correct English - that I know or read. Ahem. You mention some person, any person, heck a Nonperson would have been fine, why mention it at all?
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15 Apr 01 - 07:07 AM (#441010) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: kendall Peg, you also described me, but, it is from choice, so, I dont feel odd at all. So, when did the Ichthyologists decide that whales are not fish? Surely those who went after them probably didnt know the difference? Or, care, even. |
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15 Apr 01 - 07:11 AM (#441011) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Gervase ...and there's Jonah, who lived in a whale, and made his home in that fish's abdomen... God save us from proseletysing pedants (meself excluded!) |
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15 Apr 01 - 07:29 AM (#441016) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: JeZeBeL PEG- goin back to what you said earlier bout people not avin a life if they stay in ont computer altime, I know u didn't say it personally, but it's my only link to the outside world. Fort u wo describin me!! I'm a student and find it good to sit on the net n 6talk to me mates, cos tis the onli thing i can do when I'm bored o doin me work!! :) We do have lives though us students, tis just we're different to students a few years ago. We are the cyber generation.....god how sad!! Tis only cos we ave to do all our work ont computer...."evrithin must b typed or it won't b graded" etc........... |
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15 Apr 01 - 11:04 AM (#441079) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Peg Jezebel...yes you are right and it is amazing to me that in a few short years students are practically glued to their computers (not to mention their cell phones, etc.) A few years ago (1988 in fact) I spent a summer studying at Oxford in a summer study-abroad program. We usually had to write at least one paper for our three week seminars. Typewriters were available for our use, or we could hand-write them (neatly!) This was weird but we dealt with it. There was one guy in my T.S. Eliot seminar who could not write his paper without a computer. Just could not do it. And it was not about needing the Internet for research etc. (which sadly is the trend now; I teach at Emerson College and my students hardly know what the library is). He had learned how to write an essay with a word processor and its cut and paste features and a fast keyboard...but a pen and paper were useless to him. I don't know if he had some sort of learning disorder or cognitive disorder which made him unable to write without a keyboard, but then you'd think he'd be able to use a typewriter... Sad, really. |
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15 Apr 01 - 11:12 AM (#441083) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Amos For all you Pedants out there is Pedantville, the use of the word "fish" is not 'correctly' constrained to the class Pisces. From the Am Heritage: "4. Any of various unrelated aquatic animals, such as a jellyfish, cuttlefish, or crayfish." And that includes Whalefish, an honorable term with more honest traditions than pedantry by a long shot!!! "There's a whale fish!" he cred, As for the verb, the Am H provides plenty of justification to go fishing for whale: 1. To catch or try to catch fish. 2. To look for something by feeling one's way; grope: fished in both pockets for a coin. 3. To seek something in a sly or indirect way: fish for compliments. v. tr. 1. a. To catch or try to catch (fish). b. To catch or try to catch fish in: fish mountain streams. 2. To catch or pull as if fishing: deftly fished the corn out of the boiling water. A |
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15 Apr 01 - 11:57 AM (#441104) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: flattop Didn't Old Sam Adams slip anything into the constitution about the right to defend yourself from deer using tackle boxes? Or perhaps about eating fellow Americans rather than wasting all that fresh meat? |
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15 Apr 01 - 11:58 AM (#441105) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Bernard So.... Is 'whalefish' an oxymoron? Is the instigator of this thread a moron? Does anyone really give a monkeys? And what does that mean, anyway?! |
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15 Apr 01 - 12:08 PM (#441106) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: reggie miles Joe, I think you can get that poetic license at the DMV (Division of Motor Vehicles). I believe the endorsement is a special stamp that goes on your regular driver's license. Spaw may have to fill out an additional form and answer a few extra test questions. I don't think there's an eye exam required for the endorsement. I understand there is an extra fee for the second photo. That camera angle is a bit tricky too. |
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15 Apr 01 - 01:25 PM (#441154) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Amos LOL! Innuendo at its best, reggie. A |
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15 Apr 01 - 02:19 PM (#441184) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Morticia There's a photo I never want to see! |
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16 Apr 01 - 07:39 AM (#441563) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: GUEST,Crazy Eddie Flattop: <<Didn't Old Sam Adams slip anything into the constitution about the right to defend yourself from deer using tackle boxes? >> Deer using tackle Boxes? Next thing we know, you guys will want the right to arm bears!
Crazy Eddie, part of your post was hidden. To display: < type < > type > - JoeClone. |
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16 Apr 01 - 09:20 AM (#441593) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: flattop See Spaw's post above, Crazy Eddie, for the reference on tackle boxes. |
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16 Apr 01 - 10:06 AM (#441605) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: late 'n short 2 Going back to the original group of protestors, I hope they weren't English teachers. Or should I say "teachers of English" ? Dan |
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16 Apr 01 - 01:07 PM (#441749) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Bert BUT - there's a song that goes.. "Ye shall get a fishy on a little dishy" Now there's no way you're going to get a whale on a 'little' dishy. So therefore a whale can't be a fish and neither can a barracuda or a shark. So there, put that in your pipe and smoke it! Bert |
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16 Apr 01 - 01:09 PM (#441752) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: mousethief No, Bert, you have made a mistake, albeit a very understandable one. The song doesn't say "Fish" it says "fishy." The whale and the barracuda and the shark are FISH; they just aren't fishies. Alex |
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16 Apr 01 - 01:22 PM (#441759) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: Bert AaaaH of course, I was overlooking that. You are right, 'Folk Songs' never lie. |
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16 Apr 01 - 01:28 PM (#441766) Subject: RE: 'GET A LIFE' From: mousethief I don't know if I'd go THAT far...... |