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Help: I need some tune names!!

23 Apr 01 - 09:55 AM (#447251)
Subject: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,Sam Pirt

Hi

I am currently in a tune writing phase and have written 4 tunes in the last two days and many more are about to be composed. The only trouble is that I needs some names!!

If possible I would like:

1 - The tune name

2 - The story behind the name you have suggested

This is for real and any suggestions I like I WILL use.

Please help!!

Cheers, Sam


23 Apr 01 - 10:05 AM (#447255)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: MMario

Sam - anyplace we could hear the tunes? It's a lot easier to suggest names when you have some idea of the piece...


23 Apr 01 - 10:31 AM (#447268)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,Patrish

Hi Sam

Black Pig Woof

My dog was called Butch, but we used to call him the black pig cos, that's what he looked like. He never got passed puppyhood, even though he was about 14 when he died. He used to spring about like lamb, chewed everything in sight and when he barked it sounded as if he was saying woof. If you used this for a tune it would have to be kind of light and puppyish

Fag ends

Quite inappropriate really, but I would see this as a romantic, eccentric sort of tune because of this

The businessman and the nutter
Like to fag end in the gutter
Not ready for the ashtray yet
Preferring to stay soppy – wet

Weasel watch

I used to have a weasel living in our garden and spent many hours watching him. He was fast and slight. I was always worried when hanging out the washing – that he'd get me

Patrish xx


23 Apr 01 - 10:33 AM (#447269)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,Patrish

The poem should read as follows

Like two fag ends in the gutter
Patrish


23 Apr 01 - 10:34 AM (#447270)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,#1

The names were all taken ages ago. Follow Bethoven, #1, #2, #3, etc.


23 Apr 01 - 10:51 AM (#447286)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST

for obvious reasons you can supply your own story

"Billy2Trees"
"Jug o'mud"


23 Apr 01 - 11:14 AM (#447310)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,Angel of the North

Pasta curry

How many times have you had a curry late at night, and find yourself evacuating it in the morning!

AotN


23 Apr 01 - 11:27 AM (#447324)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST

Danny Boy It will be an instant hit


23 Apr 01 - 11:36 AM (#447336)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,Matt_R

Mine have been called:

Cashel Rock
The First Thing
Slow Drag Rag Reel
Skyehigh
Grandfather's Sporran
Boo's Reel
Israeli Reel
Steam
Pumpkin Patch


23 Apr 01 - 11:50 AM (#447344)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Les from Hull

How about: A Kick in the Goolees The Gravel Voice Only slightly more seriously you could call a tune 'Thank you for asking'. You could get some fun out of that.

Les


23 Apr 01 - 01:08 PM (#447397)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Roger in Sheffield

A few names that come to mind when I think of Goole are:-
Big Field !, Flat World, old bicycles
Road Closed
Stuck on this side of the river
Where did that retail park come from?
Lets back up a 40 foot tractor is about to squash us!!
theres nothin on the map for miles except Thorne moors - and you want vegetarian food???
Is Cleckheaton far? - no just about an inch by map !

Couldn't you use place names - the saltmarshe, blacktoft ?
Or how about a butterfly, the brimstone, it would have to be a hot tune of course (or maybe a stinker?)
The dropwort?
Phragmites

....rambling again must be time for the pub


23 Apr 01 - 01:17 PM (#447402)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Sorcha

Sam's Favorite
Mudcat Reel/Jig, whatever
A Pint for Max
Hot Toddy
Blue Blazes


23 Apr 01 - 01:34 PM (#447418)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: vindelis

What inspired you to write the tunes in the first place? Are we talking Holiday Polka, or Workshop Drag?


23 Apr 01 - 01:58 PM (#447444)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Roger in Sheffield

Honest question, how do you know that your tunes have not been writ afore, and already have names?


23 Apr 01 - 02:26 PM (#447468)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Ebbie

One thing that works for me is to play it over and over until I 'hear' a phrase- I then work from that. In other words, if it 'says' "the girl he loved so dear", or "there never was a better day", I can then name it something on that theme.

Help?

Ebbie


23 Apr 01 - 02:47 PM (#447493)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: catspaw49

"Sunglasses For An Abcessed Cow"
"Knees and Nads"
"Yorkshire, the Gem of the Third World"
"Boofer's Paradise"

I don't think any of those are taken Sam.(:<))

Spaw


23 Apr 01 - 03:48 PM (#447539)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,IANHUNTER-32@devilselbow.fsnet.co.uk


23 Apr 01 - 04:07 PM (#447546)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Chicken Charlie

I think you should call at least one of them "Slow Day in Sheffield." The proven Stephen Foster method is to glace through an atlas for places you have never been. Alternatively, my Irish ancestors seemed to have worked off of two lists. A was a list of all known (or unknown) historical figures from the Green Isle. The other was a list of every type of musical composition known to man, plus about a dozen great words like "Farewell," "Resurrection," "Return," "Revenge," etc. The beauty is that with only 200 people and 20 musical or generic terms, you would have 4000 song titles, all on the model of "Bonaparte's Revenge," "Tarleton's Resurrection," etc. On the other side of my brain, I don't think one person should name another person's song, especially without hearing it. Gotta go. Need to head down to the music store & put an an order for "Sam Pirt's Blues."

CC


23 Apr 01 - 04:38 PM (#447565)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Uncle_DaveO

I can tell you what I do, which MIGHT be of use.

My first banjo piece I named for my wife, Dorris. The name was "Little Dorrie".

Second I named for myself, sort of: "Pop's Progress." Third, in honor of my son-in-law, who is known far and wide as "Dancin' Bob".

When my daughter was a baby she was the kickingest baby you've ever seen--not just bicycle-pedaling, but kick-kick-kick! I had just read a novel which referred to a historical Indian chief, Kicking Bird, so she became known around our house as "Kickin' Bird,", and so the next tune was "Kickin' Bird".

I have another tune in the works, and it may have a family reference name or maybe a reference to our street name, which is Crow's Nest Drive.

In any case, there are lots of them right there in your own experience and environs, and they are less likely than many to be something that's been used.

Dave Oesterreich


23 Apr 01 - 04:50 PM (#447576)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: bill\sables

How about Napoleon crossing Selby Lock


23 Apr 01 - 04:52 PM (#447578)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: lady penelope

I'm obviously biased here,

"My mate Mungo" ('Cos there's nothing like a wet cat paw in the ear to make sure you're alive.)

"The prosthetic polka" ( well real hand reel's bin dun )

"Foot in mouth lament." ( speaks for itself )

"I was a teenage folkie" ( nuff sed )

"Nuff Sed" ( 'Cos it usually has)

I could go on for hours avoiding my project work!

TTFN M'Lady P.


23 Apr 01 - 04:55 PM (#447581)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: lady penelope

I'm obviously biased here,

"My mate Mungo" ('Cos there's nothing like a wet cat paw in the ear to make sure you're alive.)

"The prosthetic polka" ( well real hand reel's bin dun )

"Foot in mouth lament." ( speaks for itself )

"I was a teenage folkie" ( nuff sed )

"Nuff Sed" ( 'Cos it usually has)

I could go on for hours avoiding my project work!

TTFN M'Lady P.


23 Apr 01 - 05:03 PM (#447585)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Bert

Pint of Shandy
Cloth Cap
Row of Houses
Barren Strawberry
Bloody 'eck
Squeezin's
Kharzi Hornpipe
Back Yard Reel
Cobble Street Rag
Brick Cathedral


23 Apr 01 - 05:42 PM (#447606)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Jeri

When I name my tunes, I usually base the name on why I wrote it or what I was thinking of when I wrote it. This is hard to do without hearing the tunes.

(By the way, if you'd like to send me the dots for Broken Plate...) ;-)

The Other One
Bonaparte Crossing His Fingers
Bonaparte Crossing His Legs
Long Walk Off a Short Pier
The Fly in the Ointment (or "the soup" - your choice)

You can also try random combination of words:
Blue Tortoise
Eccentric Flashlight
A Box of Anchovies
The Breath of Guitars
The Sonic Curtain

Flying Without Wings
Swimming Without Fins
Up for Air
The Resuscitation (well, someone's already used The Resurrection)

and finally...
It Doesn't Have a Name


23 Apr 01 - 06:42 PM (#447661)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Mr Red

Virtual reel.
keyboards and all that.
just the thing for piano accordian.
no story just modern.

hey how about a "St Georges xxxxxx" if you wrote it today. I like hornpipes
how about a "Dragons' Branle" a la "Horses ditto" - same reason

It is Shakespears birthday too but the Shakespear thread threw up a few doubting comments
Coriolanus lots of single entedre there for you.
Let us know which click.
we might be requesting them soon.


23 Apr 01 - 06:51 PM (#447668)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST

Don't think they're taking this seriously, Sam .Did you expect them to?


23 Apr 01 - 07:54 PM (#447705)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Jeri

If I could hear the tunes, I might get an idea for a serious name. I try to get a feeling for what the tune makes me imagine. This is very hard to do with no idea of what a tune sounds like, not to mention whether it's a jig, reel, etc.

"Flying Without Wings" was serious, but I'm not entirely sure someone already hasn't come up with a tune by that name. "Up For Air" isn't that wacky. Hey, if I can name a tune "Farewell to Reason," what do you expect?


24 Apr 01 - 04:17 AM (#447906)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Geoff the Duck

The Jug Reel /polka /march /hornpipe etc.
Bill Sables' knees
Quack!


24 Apr 01 - 04:37 AM (#447913)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,Sam Pirt

Wow, thanks all, keep them coming I am sure to se some of these!!

Many of you say that I should name the tune after how I am feeling at the time or what ot says to me and I have alreay used that method I just though that by putting it to the catters I may just get that bit more 'individual' or 'extrovert' (probabaly spelt wrong) suggestions that would be very entertaining and very memorable.

Keep them coming and when I decided on some names I'll let you know. I will also try to get them on the mudcat resources, along with Broken Plate (sorry Jeri I'm in my finals and a bit busy) and a special day.

Cheers, Sam


24 Apr 01 - 12:14 PM (#448198)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Grab

I'm partway through writing a tune for guitar which is quite twisted - some bits are nice and symmetrical, and others are seriously asymmetric. So it's called Air Symmetric. But the better answer is "because it is" - the name came to mind, and to me it was so clearly the name of the tune that trying to explain it seemed banal. I've got a fiddle tune which is as yet unnamed - I'm just waiting for a similar stroke of lightning to name that one.

Graham.


24 Apr 01 - 08:16 PM (#448604)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Mr Red

How about a tune named after the posts above.
"the Mudcat Ramble"
what about Mozarts trick with the Abegg variations.
Miss Abbegg was a music patron's daughter and he was sort of obliged to flatter his sponsors so he took the notes A B E G G and flourished around them.
Sam try all the suggested methodologies (once), some may seem naff but what they can produce occasionally is quite another matter.
George Bernard Shaw once said "the Golden Rule is that here are no Golden Rules"


25 Apr 01 - 06:37 PM (#449407)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Mr Red

Hunting for Scunthorpe
corny but crude. and just a bit sub title.
(provide your own story.)
lullaby - "Humber Slumber"
Gooleish
"Hull Fair" which I don't believe is the biggest one in Britain but a beverley lass I knew insisted it was.
sort of "Nottingham Goosey Fair" for K-u-H.


26 Apr 01 - 12:19 AM (#449589)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,leeneia

Are you Irish? If so, be aware of the powerful All-Ireland Board for the Perpetuation of Enigmatic Tune Names. They are behind such names as "Upstairs in the Tent," "Take Her Out and Air Her," and "The Caravat and Shanavest." These are actual tunes from the Roche Collection.

Scotland has the Tune-Names Board. They like several kinds of names. One favored kind is the name almost as long as the tune, such as "Lieutenant Colonel Angus MacGillicuddy's Farewell to Loch Dubh." Another kind makes reference to booze, but in a cute way. A third uses funny spelling, as in "The Twa Plagies." Come to think of it, adding "ies" to an ordinary word will likely win their approval.

Don't run afoul of these people if you seek fame and fortune!


26 Apr 01 - 12:41 AM (#449606)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Bert

Hey Grab "stroke of lightning" would be a good name.


26 Apr 01 - 03:36 AM (#449640)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,John Mayberry

Well, first figure out WHY they need a name. I've known traditional musicians who knew many nameless tunes. You want to put something at the top of the page when you write'em out? Then it might be a description of the tune that means something to you, i.e. "The tune I wrote while waiting to hear from the bank." You want people to smile, or nod meaningfully, or groan, when you announce the name before playing it? Then you're a writer, and can follow much of the advice already given, which boils down to: "Be clever." You write so many tunes, and don't read music, and have a real problem remembering the great tune you composed last thursday but think that a good name will help you? Good Luck. As someone else suggested, a phrase that echoes a main phrase is probably your best bet: " MacIntyre was Almost Bald". Otherwise, let your biographers/collectors/fans of the future work it out. Most of the tunes called "So-and-so's Polka", etc., were probably named by "So-and-so's" copiers and admirers. What's the big danger? That a beautiful tune is composed, lives a glorious brief life like a pitch pocket that flares in a campfire, and no-one hears it again because it's forgotten, un-named? I love living in a world where this happens. Cheers, John (who has written only a few tunes, and has wrestled with this question of naming for a while)


26 Apr 01 - 06:32 AM (#449681)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler

My minuscule knowledge would suggest place and personal names are popular for dance tunes but more obscure titles would provide future Mudcatters with much scope for speculation in the next century: "does anyone know the derivation of Sam Pirt's reel the Cantankerous Curmudgeon" etc.
RtS


27 Apr 01 - 12:36 AM (#450346)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Ebbie

Has anyone used 'Fame and Fortune'? "I'm playing with fame and fortune"; They want fame and fortune; Fame and fortune is my game; Fame and fortune gets paid well...

Oh, sorry. I'm thinking of a band's name. :)


27 Apr 01 - 02:59 PM (#450594)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Morticia

One of my favourites was named "Mick Mullen bids farewell to his breakfast" after a particularly heavy night on the ale....what about calling them Bob, or Eric or Spot?I think announcing a tune called Bob would be really cool, but then I can be a bit sad like that.Also how about Roger de Coverley's Fish Slice, or Arnold Palmers Llama? That's what I've called all dance tunes for years, you can borrow if you wish.


27 Apr 01 - 04:22 PM (#450668)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,leeneia

John Mayberry: tunes need names so that if two people both know them, they can say to one another, "Let's play Such-and-such," and then they play it.

Roger the Skiffler: I love your speculation as to future Mudcatters speculating on the origins of the tune names. I hope the speculation is the combination of erudition and zaniness which is the Mudcat at its best.


27 Apr 01 - 04:58 PM (#450689)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,Claymore

1. The Twa Panties 2. The 12 Step Program 3. Rue The Day 4. Haggis Amongus 5. Uvula Rag 6. Up The Dosage 7. Till The Quivering Stops 8. Sliding on a Razor 9. Captain Come and the Seamen 10. Toad in the Blender


27 Apr 01 - 07:20 PM (#450767)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Mr Red

What about a few subtle spoonerisms?


28 Apr 01 - 08:42 AM (#451001)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: GUEST,Sam Pirt

YOU NEVER CEESE TO IMPRESS!!!

Here are some titles that I am going to use, all sources will be recognised:

Weasel Watch - Patrish - I really liked the story and the title

Thankyou for asking - Les from Hull - Thankyou for thinking of the name

Stuck this side of the river - Roger in Sheffield - Liked the image this made in me mind

A Pint for max - Sorcha - He deserves one!!

Squeezins - Bert - Well I play the accordion

Eccentric Flashlight - Jeri - I remeber this flashlight well.......cheers

The Mudcat Ramble - Mr Red - I need to remember this somehow!!

Cheers All - I will try to get all of the tunes midified, named etc.. and sent to mudcat resources.

Also if you can think of any more please suggest some, I am currently writing 2 tunes a day.

Cheers, Sam


28 Apr 01 - 07:10 PM (#451292)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Hawker

How about 'Soup in the Basket'
Or maybe 'The Higgler's Horse'
A Higgler is a sort of Rag & bone man
Try looking round you, if I wrote a tune here, I could call it 'The hose on the hoover' 'The pot of pencils' 'mouse cover mouse' 'The box of files' etc.
I am sure you could be more inspirational, after all I am sitting in what was until last Sunday, a cupboard!
Lucy


28 Apr 01 - 08:30 PM (#451323)
Subject: RE: Help: I need some tune names!!
From: Lonesome EJ

Since ancient times, a small ferry operated between Tuckton and Christchurch in Dorset. This ferry was the main transport over the River Stour until the late 1800s when a bridge was erected. I have an old photo of a bewhiskered, ragged fellow standing upright in a rowboat and holding a punting oar. On the stern is emblazoned the grand name Maid of the Stour. So my suggestions would be "Wick Ferry" or "Maid of the Stour" as a kind of commemoration.