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29 Apr 01 - 05:51 PM (#451689) Subject: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: GUEST,Edmund Thomas I am looking for the music to a Scottish ballad called "Bonnie Susie Clelland". I know the tune and the lyrics, but I would like to get the written music. Can anyone tell me where I find it? Thanks |
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29 Apr 01 - 05:53 PM (#451692) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: Sorcha Click me! for the sheet music at JC's Tunefinder. |
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30 Apr 01 - 02:33 PM (#452273) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: Sorcha Come back, come back to the five and dime, Edmund!! |
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30 Apr 01 - 03:40 PM (#452319) Subject: RE: Tune for Bonnie Susie Cleland From: Joe Offer For the record, the tune is in the Digital Tradition here (click), but not in sheet music form. This one is a bit difficult to find because of possible alternate spellings. I'm thinking of adding a corrected entry to the Digital Tradition with possible alternate spellings. "Clelland" is one alternate that would help searching. Can anybody suggest others? What spellings of "Susie" should be included? -Joe Offer- |
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30 Apr 01 - 03:49 PM (#452325) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: MMario I've seen it as Suzy, Susan, Susanne, Susie Clemand, Clellen, Klellan And as "Morgan Wallace" |
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30 Apr 01 - 04:43 PM (#452356) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: GUEST,Bruce O. Motherwell was the first to collect it. Unfortunately he never kept track of things very well, and his manuscripts have the same song attributed to two different women. The tune of one (noted by Andrew Blaikie of Paisley) was published in his 'Minstrelsy", 1827, repeated in Bronson's 'Tradition Tunes of the Child Ballads", and I gave it as an ABC in the forum ) search it on 'Cleland'. Andrew Blaikie collected another tune for it which Jack Campin located and made an ABC of it, which he posted on Scots-L, and I thought I gave it in this Forum but can't remember where. |
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01 May 01 - 09:29 PM (#453412) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: GUEST,Edmund Thanks for the help, everyone. If anybody else has any bright ideas, please pass them along. I think "Clelland" is my misspelling. It is probably Cleland. Sorcha, What's the "five and dime" and why should I come back to it?? Edmund |
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01 May 01 - 10:44 PM (#453457) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: Sorcha Uh Oh.......I'll bet it's transatlantic faliure again!! It's a line from a song (i forget which one) that refers to Jimmy (James Dean), a dead American moive star and cult icon. A five and dime is a "dime store"--sort of an all purpose General Mercantile thing like WalMart. |
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02 May 01 - 07:16 PM (#454280) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: GUEST,Edmund Thomas Sorcha: Thanks again for replying. I know who James Dean was and what a five and dime is (we have similar things in Canada). I wasn't clear on how that might apply to me. If it has to do with being a member of Mud Cat Cafe, I am trying but experiencing technical difficulties. The tune for Bonnie Susie Cleland you referred me to is not the one I am familiar with, but the lyrics are very similar. Edmund |
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02 May 01 - 09:02 PM (#454365) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: Malcolm Douglas Bruce posted the tune (in abc format) given by Motherwell in this earlier discussion: Bonnie Susie Cleland -- Different Tune. It is the one used by Jean Redpath (and no doubt a great many others who have learned it from her record) and is probably more familiar than the one in the DT, which was transcribed from the singing of one Lisa Null; there is no indication as to where Ms. Null got it, and the tune Sorcha found through JC was extracted by Martin Doering from the DT and transcribed into abc from the midi in the file here, so that doesn't give any additional information. Abc can be converted easily into staff notation through a number of shareware programs; info available through the FAQ. Malcolm |
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02 May 01 - 09:51 PM (#454393) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: GUEST,Bruce O. I'll probably being seeing Lisa this weekend, and I'll ask her where she got her's (if Charlie B. doesn't see this first and beat me to it) |
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03 May 01 - 11:37 AM (#454779) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: GUEST,Bruce O. The 2nd tune collected by Andrew Blaikie, c 1827, for "Bonnie Susie Cleland" is in the Ballad-L archives (search on Google) Apr. 11, 2001, #13- 'Motherwell, the end'. [And in the Scots-L archives twice] |
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03 May 01 - 08:40 PM (#455267) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: Peg "Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean" is a stage play, later made into a film starring Cher. Sandy Dennis and Karen Black...
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03 May 01 - 09:00 PM (#455277) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: Sorcha Thank you Peg. I just could not remember anything, except that it was a "catch phrase".......... |
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04 May 01 - 02:56 PM (#455923) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: GUEST,Mac Tattie For words and music of this ballad go to this great wee site, www.traditionalmusic.co.uk cheers |
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05 Jun 01 - 07:47 PM (#477162) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: CET I'm refreshing this thread because I would like to track down Jean Redpath's recording of Bonnie Susie Cleland. Someone on an earlier thread mentioned a recording called "Father Adam" but I can't find anything by that title at Folk Legacy. Can anybody help? Edmund |
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05 Jun 01 - 09:02 PM (#477201) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: Malcolm Douglas Father Adam can be had on cassette from http://www.jeanredpath.com/
"www.traditionalmusic.co.uk" looks good at first sight, until you notice that it's a commercial venture composed almost entirely of unattributed material copied from other people's websites (a lot of it came from this one), with apparantly no effort at all made to acknowledge sources. As a consequence, it's not only worthless as a resource for anyone who's serious about traditional music, it's actually seriously misleading, and I would stongly advise against using it; at least until the owner takes the trouble to document his material, which is easily done nowadays by anybody who can be bothered. |
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06 Jun 01 - 05:36 PM (#477852) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Music for 'Bonnie Susie Clelland' From: CET Thanks Malcolm Edmund Thomas |
