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01 May 01 - 01:03 PM (#452992) Subject: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Clinton Hammond .. people who always whine and suck and piss and moan that things aren't as good as they used to be?!?! As if, at some point there was this totally idyllic past that we once fell from... What they fail to realise is that things are exactily the same now as they've ever been, and they're not likley to ever change... |
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01 May 01 - 01:10 PM (#453005) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Little Hawk A lot of things aren't as good as they used to be... Like homefries, for instance! Eaten any real homefries lately? They've almost ceased to exist in restaurants. Soon no one will even remember what they were like, I fear. Then too, Clinton, you've been getting wrinklier and seedier looking with every passing year. Don't we have a right to whine a little about that? :-) - LH |
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01 May 01 - 01:17 PM (#453011) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: MMario Almost as annoying as those people who piss and moan and whine that things aren't as good as they could be; or should be |
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01 May 01 - 01:19 PM (#453017) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Clinton Hammond That too MMario! Wrinked and Seedy is the look I'm going for LH!! LOL!!! That'd be a great name for a duo eh! |
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01 May 01 - 01:23 PM (#453024) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: KingBrilliant Just moany people really. Lets all be happy instead. I like happy. Things don't stay the same, but the overall effect is usually equivalent - you've got to swim in your own sea is what I say (by which I mean whatever sea you're in). Kris (well, I know what I mean - don't know if it translates out of Kris-ish & into any other lingo though) |
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01 May 01 - 01:30 PM (#453032) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: MMario no - happy people can be REALLYannoying... |
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01 May 01 - 01:35 PM (#453039) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: wysiwyg I get tired of EVERYTHING at some point or other, and then I either get over it or move on to something new. ~S~ |
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01 May 01 - 01:46 PM (#453047) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Little Hawk Actually, I have good news! On our way to the Mudcat gathering in northern Pennsylvania this weekend, we stopped at a nondescript little restaurant on Hiway 220, I think it was, just north of a town called Milan. The restaurant is called Millard's...and they have REAL homefries!!! I could hardly believe it! Everything else was very good there too. I highly recommend Millard's to any and all passing travelers. The Wellsboro Diner in Wellsboro, Pennsylvania was pretty good too...but the "homefries" were, alas, the same deep-fried light brown little dried out chunks of crud you get everywhere else these days... - LH |
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01 May 01 - 01:50 PM (#453050) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: MMario next time LH - I'll make homefries for you....there's a cast iron griddle there |
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01 May 01 - 01:51 PM (#453052) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Matt_R Oh COME ON! We've ALL been the scarecrow! |
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01 May 01 - 01:51 PM (#453053) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: mousethief I *LOVE* deep-fried, light-brown, little, dried-out chunks of crud! Oh, you meant potatoes. Never mind. Alex |
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01 May 01 - 01:53 PM (#453056) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Clinton Hammond All been the scarecrow? Huh? wazzat mean Matt? |
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01 May 01 - 01:59 PM (#453067) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Little Hawk Wasn't he the one who desperately wanted a brain? - LH |
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01 May 01 - 02:06 PM (#453075) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Mr Red ClintonHammond Things may be the same but we are demonstrating the fact that the numbers are increasing. Forums (fora?) reach further that means that "les miserables" also have a bigger audience. Which means us really nice worthwhile people have to shout a bit louder and become like them dare I say it:- OH, HOW I HATE MISANTHROPES |
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01 May 01 - 02:07 PM (#453076) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: nutty My puppy (8months old) torments my older dog(6 years) till he gets a reaction which is either a chase or a bite on the nose. However hard the old dog tries to ignore him he gets annoyed and reacts in the end. This is what I'm seeing here - We all get told "ignore these threads and they'll go away" then people like you - the backbone of Mudcat - just can't resist stirring things up In Yorkshire we say "THERE'S NOWT SO QUEER AS FOLK" (Queer - meaning odd or strange)and the more time I spend on this site the more prophetic those words become. It really is a shame - cos you are all such lovely people. |
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01 May 01 - 02:10 PM (#453081) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Little Hawk This thread is a bit whimsical...but in what way is it harmful? - LH |
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01 May 01 - 02:13 PM (#453086) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Matt_R Star Trek reference, people!!! In the Voyager episode with the renegade Q (Q2), he wanted to show them exactly what life was like in the Q-Continuum. He showed it as a dusty, sleepy, run-down gas station in the Midwest. he said "This is what the whole Continuum is like, and you have so much time to waste that you try being everything for a while...the windmill, the gaspump, the tree...I even had to become the scarecrow, I was so bored." And Q (John DeLancie) says "Oh come on! We've ALL been the scarecrow!". |
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01 May 01 - 02:18 PM (#453093) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Little Hawk Ahhhhh....the light dawns! Matt, you are a veritable archive of arcane trivia of our time. But can you ride a unicycle backwards? - LH |
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01 May 01 - 02:19 PM (#453094) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: mousethief Pretty obscure, Matt. Time to spend less time watching TV perhaps? :-P Alex |
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01 May 01 - 02:20 PM (#453096) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Little Hawk That's an emoticon I haven't seen before, Alex. Is it supposed to be a smile on one side only? - LH |
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01 May 01 - 02:22 PM (#453100) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Ebbie 'Wrinkled and Seedy'! I love it, and at my age that's going to describe most bands I'm in! What's a good word for a third member? (Oh, I know- Redundant) Ebbie |
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01 May 01 - 02:23 PM (#453101) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Matt_R No, LH, he's sticking his tongue out! Actually, that episode came on 4 years ago. |
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01 May 01 - 02:26 PM (#453103) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Little Hawk That reminds me of a punk group..."Ded Stupid and the Useless F**kers". Or was that a rap group? How about "Ice T"? Has any rapper taken that yet? - LH |
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01 May 01 - 02:26 PM (#453106) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Clinton Hammond Right... I remember that pap... it was right about then that I gave up totally on Voyagnerd... Good reference though Matt! |
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01 May 01 - 02:34 PM (#453110) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Matt_R Yes, LH. Ice-T is taken! He's on Law & Order: SVU now. |
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01 May 01 - 02:37 PM (#453114) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: mousethief So, Matt, you rememer a throw-away line from a TV show from 4 years ago? You must be really good at Trivial Pursuit. Alex |
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01 May 01 - 02:40 PM (#453119) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Matt_R I've only actually ever played once, and that was in 1994. I have a notoriously good memory for things. I hardly forget anything. |
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01 May 01 - 02:42 PM (#453124) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: wysiwyg Aw gee, LH! I think Hardi forgot to give the unicycle demo at the church Saturday night! Hess could have laffed her ass off (and the rest of us could have too) and YOU could have tried to ride it! ~S~ |
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01 May 01 - 02:44 PM (#453128) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: mousethief Next time we all play, I want you on my team! |
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01 May 01 - 03:06 PM (#453150) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Nostalgia ain't what it used to be! The trouble is, as you get older you remember things from long ago but not what you came into the room looking for! RtS |
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01 May 01 - 03:08 PM (#453152) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: RichM Unicycle backwards? |
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01 May 01 - 03:10 PM (#453153) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: mousethief Actually (and don't quote me on this) I think it's elcycinu. |
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01 May 01 - 03:30 PM (#453158) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Matt_R When do we play, Alex? Set 'em up, Mouseman. |
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01 May 01 - 03:45 PM (#453172) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: mousethief Door's always open, Matt. When can you drop by? |
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01 May 01 - 05:20 PM (#453234) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Kim C I have never lost at Trivial Pursuit. People don't ask me to play anymore. ;-) What I get really tired of, is people who have all these great and marvelous ideas of something they want to do, then come up with an excuse why they can't do it. Now granted, sometimes we all come up with outlandish ideas that really aren't workable--- but that's not what I mean. I mean things that are totally attainable with a little imagination and effort. If you really want to do something, then GO DO IT. |
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01 May 01 - 05:28 PM (#453239) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Bert People who complain that "things aren't as good as they used to be" obviously didn't live through WWII in England. |
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01 May 01 - 05:38 PM (#453250) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Clinton Hammond Very few people alive these days did, Bert... |
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01 May 01 - 06:24 PM (#453279) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Bill D I remember LOTS of things that I have forgotten I remember. |
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01 May 01 - 06:37 PM (#453286) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Little Hawk My father lived through WWII in England, and in some ways he remembers it as a very lively and enjoyable time, while in other ways he would certainly agree that things have improved. It depends how you mean it. We have a much greater variety and sophisitication of manufactured products of all kinds now, and more varieties of food from all parts of the world, and some of us have more money to spend. Some... At the same time, we have less community, less home cooking, more loneliness and isolation of the individual. We have less patience in general, and more apparent need for instant gratification (driven by our expensive technological gadgets, like the TV, the computer, the dishwasher, the clothes washer and dryer, the microwave, etc.). We have become more helpless, I would suggest, as these gadgets have robbed us of direct participation in real life. Go to a relatively poor society in the 3rd world, and this becomes really obvious, as you see how much more community they have than we do. My suggestion is: number one, destroy your television or give it away. It's a start at reclaiming the life that has been stolen from you by the marketing system. I guess I had to get serious at some point here... - LH |
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01 May 01 - 06:50 PM (#453296) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Little Hawk And then, of course, there's the flippin' computer! When I was in Cuba I barely even thought about computers, practically forgot they existed, there was so much REAL stuff to do each day, and I was WAY more relaxed at the same time. Ironically enough, I have to now be ON a computer to tell you people about it! Like any number of other people around here (in North America) I am having a bit of difficulty finding the means of "having a life" in the real sense...rather than the virtual sense. Funny, ain't it? Life is a conundrum. - LH |
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01 May 01 - 06:59 PM (#453302) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: CarolC Sweet corn. It's not as good as it used to be.
My theory is that they've genetically engineered it (or selectively bred it) to have an unnaturally high phenelalenine content. Phenelalenine is the amino acid that is used to make aspartame, or nutra-sweet. So according to my theory, the sweetness in the super-sweet varieties of corn is from the phenelalenine rather than sugar. It just doesn't taste as good. The texture sucks, too. |
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01 May 01 - 07:03 PM (#453303) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: catspaw49 I get tired of everything too.....even the great stuff I used to like. Frankly, the "great stuff" ain't all that great either and the bad stuff that I'm worn out out on is just stuff. I find my life considerably easier since I have now gone to the James Kumen Filing Method. Everyhting is in two files:
1--MILDLY AMUSING You can move the stuff back and forth too, depending on your mood. This way you don't lose anything, but you also aren't nearly as troubled by the vagaries of mood swings........my own and other peoples. So either "Have A Nice Day" or "Fuck-Off" Spaw |
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01 May 01 - 07:41 PM (#453337) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Little Hawk Ah, and then there's the automobile...a handy device to separate you from the rest of humanity, destroy the core of your downtown, devastate the traditional local community, insulate you against nature, and pollute your air all at the same time! Give me convenience or give me death....but DON'T take my car away! - LH |
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01 May 01 - 07:51 PM (#453344) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Peg I agree about the homefries; most breakfast joints might as well scrape 'em into the garbage instead of put them on someone's plate... Theer is a restaurant in Northampton; kind of fancy Yuppie place; great breakfasts, and great homefries! Sauteed with olive oil, garlic and rosemary...
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01 May 01 - 07:57 PM (#453345) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: kendall I bought a basket of California strawberries the other day. If I had been blind, I would have sworn I was eating sour balsa wood. |
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01 May 01 - 08:09 PM (#453357) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Jeep man I get tired of Politicians "Sending a strong Message". Jeepster |
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01 May 01 - 08:40 PM (#453377) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Little Hawk Spaw - those 2 choices you gave up there sound suspiciously like the American political system.... - LH |
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01 May 01 - 11:45 PM (#453494) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Gypsy 'Spaw, you just haven't had MY CA strawbs! They're the best! |
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01 May 01 - 11:55 PM (#453502) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Matt_R Don't you ever get tired of HURTING ME!? |
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02 May 01 - 08:16 AM (#453713) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Grab LH, there's a Neville Shute quote (I think from "Requiem for a Wren") where one character is asking why all the politicians don't learn not to start wars, since they were all involved in them when they were young. The answer given is that they actually enjoyed wartime - but they enjoyed it bcos they were young, not bcos of the war. I will say that it's difficult to get good apples from supermarkets - they're bred to look good and grow quickly at the expense of taste. Use local shops instead. Graham. |
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02 May 01 - 09:50 AM (#453782) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Peg local produce all the way folks!!!! I LIVE for the season of the farmers' markets in Boston, and also go strawberry picking and apple-picking every year... Locally-grown fruits and veggies cannot compare to the jet-flown and trucked-in exotic fare at the supermarkets. They are fresher, riper, more nutritious, and since they grow in our local areas, they help us better ward off local germs, allergens, etc. Don't even THINK you'll ever get me to eat corn on the cob that was picked more than a few hours ago... Kendall, I did actually have some decent California strawberries the other day; but it is rare indeed. Hmm, I think I shall go gather some fresh nettles today and make soup... Peg, living in the past
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02 May 01 - 10:00 AM (#453788) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: MMario Peg - I don't think they allow self-pick - but come apple pickin' time - try Crow Farm in Sandwich on Cape Cod (it's right on Route 6A about 4 miles or so from the bridge)(Surely you can talk someone into driving you down) - they have all kinds of heirloom varieties. |
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02 May 01 - 10:08 AM (#453792) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Peg that sounds great!!!! thanks. I currently go with a friend to Brooksby Farms in Peabody; huge old orchards. Mostly Macintosh, Macoun, Golden Delicious, Empire, Cortland...the basics. But very very good. I do love older varieties, too (grew up in western NY!) Peg
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02 May 01 - 10:16 AM (#453793) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Kim C Interesting comments, Little Hawk. My daddy said to me one time, he said, all these things we have today that are supposed to save time, just take up more time. Because when you save time at one thing, you cram more things into the time you saved until you don't have time to do anything at all. He said, your grandma used to wash our clothes in a washtub and hang them up to dry on the clothesline. It took all day long, but we always had clean clothes to wear. Nowadays people don't even have time to put their clothes in the damn washing machine. I thought about that, and it didn't take me long to realize he was right. I am just as guilty as anyone else. I have time to get my clothes in the washer but no time to put them away, so they sit atop the dryer and the cat sleeps on them and then they have to be washed again to get the cat hair off. I really like reenacting because we get a chance to get away from some of these things, and learn skills that modern kids today will never know, unless their parents take time to teach them. Last weekend I learned how to start a fire with flint & steel. Great fun. A couple of guys cooked a ham, beans, bread, cabbage, squash, over the fire, and I churned butter. We ate like kings. It was great. I think each period of time has its own unique challenges and trials. I am glad to be a young person in 2001 because I have access to advancements in technology and medical science that my parents and grandparents didn't have. At the same time it's important to me to know some of the things they had to do before these technological advancements came along... like cooking over a fire, and sewing by hand, and stuff like that. If the apocalypse comes I won't be naked or hungry. ;-) About the television..... back in 1993 our house was robbed. Our very nice 25" RCA stereo remote-control TV (which was a gift from Mister's grandma) was stolen, along with my jewelry box. Which was a pretty stupid thing to take, because I don't own any expensive jewelry, and if I did, it wouldn't be on a box atop the dresser. Anyway, we had no TV for two years. People thought we had lost our minds. We missed watching movies on the VCR, though, so eventually we did take Grandma's offer of a 2nd hand 13" manual TV. We still have it. I like to have the TV on when I'm sewing or knitting - if I have music on, inevitably I will not get any work done because I'll either start dancing or playing along. I will freely admit I have become a PBS junkie. There's worse things.... |
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02 May 01 - 12:48 PM (#453912) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: mousethief Labor-saving devices don't. Back when you had to wash clothes by hand, people wore the same outfit all week (except Sunday, when they wore their "Sunday Best" -- and those might not get washed for months). Men's dress shirts had detachable collars so you could wash the collar when it got dirty without having to wash the whole shirt. Women's dresses had removable ruffles at the bottom for the same reason. Now that we have washing machines and dryers in every home, people wear something once and then have to wash it. And we take showers daily, whereas our ancestors who washed clothes far less frequently also bathed far less frequently. Alex
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02 May 01 - 12:53 PM (#453914) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Clinton Hammond Ya... our ancestors also STANK like SHIT all the time!! pass! As a matter of fact, I wainting on the day when clothing is disposable... wear it once, toss it out! |
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02 May 01 - 12:54 PM (#453917) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: mousethief And Clinton, here you were telling us that nothing ever changes. We've run rings around you logically. |
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02 May 01 - 01:49 PM (#453984) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Hollowfox My stepfather insisted on getting one of those remote control garage door things. It got stuck part way up with my mother inside the garage. (I didn't ask how she managed this; that's too dangerous for my lifestyle) As she was crawling in her work clothes through the eighteen inch space, she uttered those deathless words, "God protect us from too many conveniences!" |
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02 May 01 - 01:53 PM (#453988) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Clinton Hammond LOL!! You think you don't stink MT?!?! keep on believeing that... Humans stink! Period... Full stop |
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02 May 01 - 01:56 PM (#453991) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Kim C Back to television... I really don't think TV is as good as it used to be. I have a select few shows that I love to watch, and beyond that, forget it. A coworker and I were just discussing this morning how we missed Westerns and the Carol Burnett Show. There's nothing like that being made now. Seems like script writing has gone completely to hell, although I think "West Wing" is one of the best-written shows on now. and Clint, when everybody stinks, nobody cares. ;-) That's why undergarments of the past were almost full-body, and white. They protected your clothes from you. White fabric was the least expensive, and the most easily washed. It could be boiled without any ill effects. And like Alex said, collars and cuffs were detachable for easy washing. 'Course, men had paper collars at one point, which were disposable. But I can't see having paper around the neck. Too stiff. Dresses during the mid 19th century (which is the kind of dresses I make) commonly had a hem tape at the bottom, usually of wool. This kept the hem from wearing out and also kept dew from drenching the bottom of the skirt. When the hem tape got worn, it was replaced. If one wore the same dress long enough, the skirt might be taken off, turned upside-down, and reattached (if the print on the fabric would allow for such). Garments that were too worn for Ma & Pa to wear would have the remaining good parts salvaged, and turned into children's clothes, or quilt pieces, or something else useful. And you thought recycling was a new thing... |
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02 May 01 - 01:57 PM (#453994) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Bert Humans stink! Hey, you speak for yourself;-) |
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02 May 01 - 02:28 PM (#454011) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: mousethief Maybe Clinton is the only human Clinton has ever smelled. |
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02 May 01 - 02:37 PM (#454020) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: katlaughing Peg, is that Sylvester's (named after the guy who invented Graham crackers in the same building) you're talking about in Noho? Great breakfasts there! |
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03 May 01 - 12:11 AM (#454445) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Peg kat: yes! Thank you, I had forgotten the name...and never knew its origins! I for one bemoan the loss of well-made clothing...I have collected a number of Victorian pieces and am astonished at the workmanship that went into it...likewise some of the clothing of the '20s and '30s I own. Wearing something once and throwing it away; isn't that the sort of attitude that has created a planet mounded high with garbage? If I like my clothes, I want to keep them as long as I can...then again I have great taste.
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03 May 01 - 12:33 AM (#454456) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Clinton Hammond Making things out of materials that couldn't be thrown away is what created a planet choking on it's own garbage... but there's absolutley no reason why nearly everything can't be made more disposable... |
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03 May 01 - 12:43 AM (#454470) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Peg Clinton, perhaps the word you are searching for is "biodegradable?" there are plenty of reasons why "nearly everything" can't be made biodegradeable... as for "more disposable" what exactly does that mean? Either it is garbage, or it isn't.
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03 May 01 - 12:56 AM (#454479) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Matt_R Sucking, moaning, and pissing sounds like a scat-freak's dream come true. |
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03 May 01 - 12:59 AM (#454482) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Clinton Hammond Everything is biodegradable Peg.. even toxic waste and plastic EVENTUALLY break down.... what I'm saying is that currently there are options that we COULD be using that break down a lot faster and cleaner... |
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03 May 01 - 02:39 AM (#454511) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: CarolC How you holding up there, Matt? You gonna be ok? |
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03 May 01 - 06:31 AM (#454575) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Gervase Steady Matt! You'll put me in mind of Ella and Louis doing scat. Sure was messy... :^) BTW, for an ignorant Brit, what are homefries? They sound mouthwatering - would they be what we call saute potatoes? |
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03 May 01 - 07:06 AM (#454590) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: gnu Yup. Just boil em and then fry em to golden - I make sure there's a few just this side of burnt for that extra flavour. |
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03 May 01 - 07:36 AM (#454596) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: kendall ...I'll be lying with a twist tie in each nostril In a plastic coat for all eternity When you see the seagulls hover o're the landfill Please take off your hat my friend and think of me.. Send me to glory in a gladbag, last verse by 'catter Bernie Houlahan |
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03 May 01 - 08:54 AM (#454665) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Peg Everything is biodegradeable????? This is simply not true for any practical purpose. Uranium and plutonium have half-lives of hundreds of thousands of years...for human survivability, that's just a bit too slow to "biodegrade." Hard plastics do not biodegrade, either. Ever. And styrofoam and soft plastics take a good long time. And toxic waste is toxic precisely BECAUSE it does not "biodegrade" and the longer it sits in our water and soil, the more poisoned they become. It is this sort of flippancy that creates the attitudes that smother the planet with garbage. Peg
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03 May 01 - 10:32 AM (#454727) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Clinton Hammond You need to check your science, Peg... |
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03 May 01 - 04:08 PM (#455025) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Kim C Doesn't anyone else miss Carol Burnett? |
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03 May 01 - 04:46 PM (#455064) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: McGrath of Harlow "Very few people alive these days did" say Clinton - ie live through World War Two.
Hell, it's not that long ago. Anyone older than 62 lived through all of it. (And if you're an American you can be a couple of years younger than that and still have lived through the American version.)
The truth is any number of things are worse than they used to be, and some things are better. There are periods when the things that are better are more important than the things that are worse, and some when it's the other way round. But I think it can be useful to keep an eye on things that are getting worse, because sometimes it's a good idea to fix them. It isn't negative to point out that a guitar needs to be put back into tune every now and then, and now is one of those times.
Incidentally, I think the quality of folk music being produced today in the British Isles anyway, is probably overall better now than it has been for a long time. Probably far better than during the Great Folk Scare. (And that's balanced out by a lot of other types of music which aren't...) |
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03 May 01 - 05:24 PM (#455102) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Bert Some of the things from the WWII era that I'm glad are in the past. Evacuation and that interminable train journey. Dried eggs. Coupons. Queues. Hiding under the desk. The smell of air raid shelters. "Is it one of ours?". Making Christmas decorations out of Chaff. Sirens. Searchlights (The damned things still give me the willies). The sound of a flying bomb. Hooded flashlights. Blackout curtains. Rest Centers. The Debris. Bombed out buildings with broken furniture and scattered books covered with blood. Water for firefighting stored in brick built pools with dead cats floating in them. Cloth mesh stuck on the bus and train windows. Utility furniture. Dried potatoes. Whale Meat. Things are GOOD now. |
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03 May 01 - 05:51 PM (#455132) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: McGrath of Harlow No it wasn't a lot of fun. The thing was though that, if you came through, you came through, and I think it gave a whole generation a sense of being invincible. It really was a case of "things can only get better", and for a long time, they did. (And then I think they started getting worse, and a lot of of the good things that had come out of that time got stomped into the ground.)
Bomb sites were fun though, once the bombing was over, if you were too young to think about why they were there. |
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03 May 01 - 05:55 PM (#455137) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Bert Yeah, the bomb sites were the ONLY place to play. Actually I didn't mind the Whale meat though. |
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03 May 01 - 05:59 PM (#455144) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Hawker The only thing that is different to how it used to be is that then it was Mum & Dad's fault, Now, its mine! :0} |
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03 May 01 - 08:37 PM (#455266) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Peg Gee Clinton, I found a lot more "science" in my post than I did in yours...at least I use some accurate terminology. I do not need to check anything. Especially not at the recommendation of someone as willfully ignorant as you are.
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03 May 01 - 08:57 PM (#455275) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Peg Kim C: yes I miss the Carol Burnett show! One of the funniest things on TV. I also miss Carol Burnett's chin since her plastic surgery...
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04 May 01 - 01:41 AM (#455428) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Ebbie Bert and McGrath, how old are you, may I ask? I would like to hear more memories of that wartime. I don't remember much of it at all even though I'm a good deal older than you- but I was in the U.S. I was 9 when the war ended. I was a farm kid and about the only thing I remember of the war was the many soldiers on the buses and trains and I remember the cc boys and I remember that German POWs worked in the bean fields with a n armed guard patrolling. And I remember the day President Roosevelt died. Not to hijack this thread, a new thread on this subject would be welcomed by me and I would imagine, others. Ebbie |
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04 May 01 - 10:44 AM (#455723) Subject: RE: Total BS: Ya Ever Get Tired Of... From: Kim C Dried eggs are still around. It's what all the fast-food places (and probably school cafeterias) serve. Yummmmmmm. ;-) |