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18 May 01 - 04:13 AM (#465310) Subject: Jelliroll Blues*** From: GUEST,Mark I host a site at http://www.rodgarfield.f9.co.uk and one of Rod's songs is Jelliroll blues, does anybody know what a Jelliroll is - I keep meaning to ask Rod, but hes is away at the moment. - Check the site for a 4min medley from Rod's 'Blowin' His Stack' CD featuring Jimi Hocking. |
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18 May 01 - 06:06 AM (#465329) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: okthen I believe this could be slang for a soft part of the female anatomy, however I could be wrong, but am sure you are asking in the right place. cheers bill |
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18 May 01 - 07:55 AM (#465369) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Steve Parkes Just a guess, but translating from American to British, "jelly"="jam", so it must be "jam-roll", and everybody knows what that is. Still sounds like a euphemism! Steve |
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18 May 01 - 08:08 AM (#465377) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Brian Hoskin okthen is right. For more information on this you can visit this earlier thread: blues lyrics Brian |
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18 May 01 - 08:31 AM (#465388) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Fortunato A Jelly Roll is a rolled cake and jelly and, some times, sugar creme confection. When I was a boy they were pink and white. "Jelly Roll" is a double entendre as used in song lyrics, particularly the blues, and is frequently a euphemism for both the sex act ("I ain't had no jelly roll") and the female sexual organs ("My baby's got sweet jelly roll"). This from a male point of view, clearly. But I seem to recall but cannot identify an instance where a female singer used the phrase to represent the male sexual organ as well. regards, Fortunato |
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18 May 01 - 08:33 AM (#465391) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Fortunato I forgot to mention that jellyrolls are not to be kept in the refrigerator, etc. Fortunato |
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18 May 01 - 08:46 AM (#465398) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: GUEST,Mark @ http://www.rodgarfield.f9.co.uk Thanx for your answers - I had thought it might had been something to do with 'Getting Some!" - thanks again for your posts. Please check out the FREE mp3's at Rod's site, leave a message on the guestbook - hope you enjoy his material - I certainly do. Mark http://www.rodgarfield.f9.co.uk |
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18 May 01 - 10:49 AM (#465529) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: wdyat12 Eels love jellirolls too. wdyat12 |
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18 May 01 - 11:06 AM (#465545) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Mark Clark Female singers refer to jelly roll as well. Was it Bessie Smith who sang "Jelly Roll Baker"?
Mr. Jelly Roll Baker won't you be my slave, - Mark |
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18 May 01 - 01:58 PM (#465717) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Chicken Charlie "Jelly, jelly, jelly--jelly on my mind (x2) Jelly killed my daddy, ran my mama stone blind." (Any 12-bar blues you want.)
"Dupre was a badman, he were brave and bold (x2) |
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18 May 01 - 02:06 PM (#465721) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: katlaughing And I thought a jelliroll was something people got around their middle from eating too many jelly-filled doughnuts! **BG** I am pretty sure Roy Bookbinder has a song on his Bookeroo! tape which has to do with jellirolls, too. Isn't there a Jelly Roll Martin or something? Can't remember. katlaughing |
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18 May 01 - 02:54 PM (#465757) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Mark Clark Morton! Jelly Roll Morton. Claimed to be the inventor of jazz. Nobody bought that claim but he was definately a big influence. - Mark |
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18 May 01 - 03:03 PM (#465761) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: katlaughing LOL...thanks, Mark!! Oh my faded memory so like a faded rose....er, something poetic like that!**BG** |
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19 May 01 - 12:24 AM (#466078) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Troll Ferdinand LaMenthe " Jelly Roll" Morton , pimp, pool hustler, piano player and song writer. Check out his "Winnin' Boy". Great song! A winding boy was one who greatly loved the ladies and they reciprocated. troll |
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19 May 01 - 12:53 AM (#466080) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: katlaughing Wow, Troll. I just found a BUNCh of ragtime sites on google, with lots of Jelly Roll, Joplin and others, some fantastic midis, but not that one, YET! I will keep looking, though. I love ragtime. Thanks! |
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19 May 01 - 01:48 AM (#466085) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Stewie Paul Oliver sheds some light in his 'Screening the Blues':
The distinction between metaphor, euphemism and sexual terminology is therefore not easily determined. There is never any doubt that 'jelly' means sexual pleasure in Negro parlance and leads, by a complex of sexual associations to many extensions. 'Jelly bean' becomes a lover, 'jelly roll' coitus or, in some instances, ejaculation, and so 'jelly' becomes the semen, the rhythms of intercourse, the skill itself ... By extension, dough-rolling, biscuit-rolling, bread-baking and other baking terms have stemmed from the 'jelly' image to become in themselves widely understood terms of sexual significance. [Paul Oliver 'Screening the Blues' Da Capo 1968, pp 208-209]. --Stewie. |
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19 May 01 - 10:52 AM (#466228) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Uncle_DaveO I'll remind you of the old song, "It must be jelly, 'cause jam don't shake like that!" Dave Oesterreich |
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19 May 01 - 07:08 PM (#466481) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Troll Kat, look under Blues. I'm a Winnin' boy. Don't deny my name. I'm an winnin' boy. Don't deny my name. My name. I'm a winnin' boy. Don't deny my name I pick it up and shake it like a Stavin' Chain. And I'm a winnin boy. Don't deny my name. Momma, Momma, Momma, take a look at Sis. Repeat twice She's out there on the levee doin' the double twist, And I'm a winnin' boy. Don't deny my name. Sister, Sister, Sister, silly little sow. Repeat twice You're tryin' to be a bad girl and you don't know how, And I'm a winnin' boy. Don't deny my name. There may be other verses but these are the only ones I know. I honestly can't remember where I learned the song, but Leon Redbone has recorded it. Sorry but I don't recall which album it is on. It's also in a book called "Country Blues" but I don't own it. troll |
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19 May 01 - 07:35 PM (#466499) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: katlaughing Oo-la-la, thanks, Troll. I'll dig out our Redbone album and see if it is on there. If not, you've given me enough, I am sure I can find a midi of it. Thanks! |
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19 May 01 - 07:46 PM (#466507) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Amos Dave van Ronk does a mean rendition of Winin' Boy. So do I for that kmatter. MmmmmmHMM!!! A |
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19 May 01 - 07:56 PM (#466514) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Stewie kat, if you have RealPlayer, you can hear 'Winin' Boy' on this page - you will need to scroll down: --Stewie.
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19 May 01 - 10:28 PM (#466576) Subject: RE: Jelliroll Blues*** From: Troll Thank you Stewie. Buddy Boldens Blues is another favorite of mine to sing. troll |