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19 May 01 - 02:04 PM (#466293) Subject: the big hewer From: GUEST,Roberto Campo A very difficult question, but so many problems were solved by the mudcatters, that I hope this one too will. In the radio ballad The Big Hewer, by Ewan MacColl, track 14 begins with half a stanza of The Durham Lockout. Then the track goes on with a verse from a song I'd like to know something about and the lyrics of it. The song begins with: "in every...". I can get only the second and fourth line, but not the first and third. The secon:children cry for want of meet. The fourth: singing for pennies in the street. I'd be glad to receive some help. Thank you. Roberto Campo |
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19 May 01 - 03:21 PM (#466329) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: the big hewer From: GUEST,Roberto Campo Sorry,it was want of meat, not of meet. Just another way to refresh a request. Roberto Campo |
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19 May 01 - 08:26 PM (#466525) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: the big hewer From: Stewie Roberto, I am sorry I can't help you but, if it is not a fragment written by MacColl himself, it is likely to be a Welsh song, given the mention of the Rhondda Valley. The fragment is:
In every village in the Rhonnda I had a brief search of some sites on the Net, but could not find anything. Someone with a knowledge of Welsh song is sure to recognise it and, if nothing else, this posting will bring your request back to the top. --Stewie.
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20 May 01 - 05:12 AM (#466701) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: the big hewer From: GUEST,Roberto Campo Stewie, that's exactly the verse I was looking for. It is sung after two lines taken from The Durham Lockout in The Big Hewer. Even the Durham Lockout is not by Ewan MacColl, but it was written by Tommy Armstrong. I thank you very much. Roberto Campo |
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19 Aug 06 - 04:51 PM (#1814022) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: the big hewer From: Wolfgang refresh Wolfgang |
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19 Aug 06 - 05:22 PM (#1814043) Subject: RE: Req: the big hewer-track 14 songs From: Joe Offer I've had trouble understanding these radio ballads. The liner notes on the Topic reissues don't really help me that much. It certainly would be a worthwhile project to do a full study and annotation of each of these radio ballads. There's a brief review of "The Big Hewer" here (click), but it certainly isn't a full study. -Joe- |
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19 Aug 06 - 05:41 PM (#1814056) Subject: RE: Req: the big hewer-track 14 songs From: Joe Offer Well, let's see what we can come up with. As stated above, track 14 starts out with Peggy Seeger singing two lines of what seems to be The Durham Lockout, to the tune of "Paddy West":
That hunger and starvation is increasing every day |
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19 Aug 06 - 05:44 PM (#1814059) Subject: RE: Req: the big hewer-track 14 songs From: Joe Offer As Stewie says, next comes a men's chorus singing with a march tune:
Children cry for want of meat Throughout the land their fathers wander Singing for pennies in the street -Joe- |
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13 May 07 - 02:35 PM (#2050788) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: the big hewer From: GUEST,Art Thieme Being essentially a "tall tale" the Big Hewer cartainly was one of my 2 or 3 favorites of all the Radio Ballads. Art |
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13 Sep 12 - 09:27 AM (#3403839) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: the big hewer From: GUEST,999 http://www.setintosong.co.uk/downloads/PDF/rb_website_big_hewer.pdf The written broadcast entire. |
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13 Sep 12 - 11:15 AM (#3403902) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: the big hewer From: Owen Woodson It's actually a Welsh choir that sings the bit in Welsh. What they are singing is called Sosban Fach. Here's a Welsh text and an English translation. Welsh English (literal translation) Mae bys Meri-Ann wedi brifo, Mary-Ann has hurt her finger, A Dafydd y gwas ddim yn iach. And David the servant is not well. Mae'r baban yn y crud yn crio, The baby in the cradle is crying, A'r gath wedi sgrapo Joni bach. And the cat has scrammed little Johnny. Sosban fach yn berwi ar y tân, A little saucepan is boiling on the fire, Sosban fawr yn berwi ar y llawr, A big saucepan is boiling on the floor, A'r gath wedi sgrapo Joni bach. And the cat has scratched little Johnny. Dai bach y sowldiwr, Little Dai the soldier, Dai bach y sowldiwr, Little Dai the soldier, Dai bach y sowldiwr, Little Dai the soldier, A gwt ei grys e mas. And his shirt tail is hanging out. Mae bys Meri-Ann wedi gwella, Mary-Ann's finger has got better, A Dafydd y gwas yn ei fedd; And David the servant is in his grave; Mae'r baban yn y crud wedi tyfu, The baby in the cradle has grown up, A'r gath wedi huno mewn hedd. And the cat is 'asleep in peace'. Sosban fach yn berwi ar y tân A little saucepan is boiling on the fire, Sosban fawr yn berwi ar y llawr A big saucepan is boiling on the floor, A'r gath wedi huno mewn hedd. And the cat is 'asleep in peace'. Dai bach y sowldiwr, Little Dai the soldier, Dai bach y sowldiwr, Little Dai the soldier, Dai bach y sowldiwr, Little Dai the soldier, A gwt ei grys e mas. And his shirt tail is hanging out. Aeth hen Fari Jones i Ffair y Caerau Old Mary Jones went to the fair in Caerau, I brynu set o lestri de; To buy a tea set; Ond mynd i'r ffos aeth Mari gyda'i But Mary and her teacups ended up in a ditch, llestri Trwy yfed gormod lawer iawn o 'de' Through the consumption of rather too much "tea". Sosban fach yn berwi ar y tân A little saucepan is boiling on the fire, Sosban fawr yn berwi ar y llawr A big saucepan is boiling on the floor, A'r gath wedi huno mewn hedd. And the cat is 'asleep in peace'. |
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08 Apr 21 - 02:31 PM (#4101407) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: the big hewer From: GUEST,# https://cpatrust.org.uk/setintosong/big-hewer.pdf The complete script is there. |
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08 Apr 21 - 02:50 PM (#4101412) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: the big hewer From: GUEST,jim bainbridge In Durham, the Big Hewer was a legendary superman of the collieries who could outperform everyone else at hewing the coal. As Jack Elliott of Birtley usd to say- he didn't bother taking bait* to work- if he was hungry, he'd just pull rivets out of the coal tubs & chew on them. When he got home, he'd eat six chops while he waited for his dinner- Jack Elliott again. *bait= workplace food in Durham ('piece' in Scotland, 'snap' in Yorkshire) |