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23 May 01 - 02:01 AM (#468452) Subject: Going Home From: GUEST,gervaise_A@email.com I recently saw the movie, "The Snake Pit" (1949, I think). Someopne sang a beautiful song probably titled "Going Home". I'm looking for the midi, the soundtrack, the lyrics, MP3, whatever. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, Gervaise |
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23 May 01 - 02:40 AM (#468458) Subject: RE: Going Home From: alison check out this thread .... it has several versions of lyrics.... hopefully its the same song... the melody is the 2nd movement from the "New World Symphony" by Dvorak.. and should be easy to get hold of..... in the UK it is probably more famous for being the tune from the Hovis bread ads...... *grin* slainte alison |
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23 May 01 - 02:44 AM (#468460) Subject: RE: Going Home From: alison the midi file is here scroll down to Dvorak..... New World Symphony, 2nd movement ... largo... slainte alison |
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23 May 01 - 03:55 AM (#468475) Subject: RE: Going Home From: GUEST Dear Alison, Thanks for the help. It's the right one! We were in the UK 4 years ago. I'm sorry I missed the bread ads... it might have saved some time! Thanks again, Gervaise |
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23 May 01 - 04:20 AM (#468487) Subject: RE: Going Home From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Jazz trumpeter/left-handed skiffle guitarist Ken Colyer (the man who REALLY started the skiffle boom in UK in the '50s)also wrote a song with this title, different words. It is credited as Colyer/Dvorak but the tune sounds nothing like the Spiritual or the classical version that Dvorak incorporated in the New World Symphony. It is on the Van Morrison/Lonnie Donegan skiffle Live in Belfast concert CD. The original Colyer skiffle sessions have also been re-released recently with Sammy Rimmington (later better known as a reeds player) on mandolin and a banjo player I've forgotten for the moment (damn CRS) and of course Bill Colyer on washboard or suitcase. RtS (useless knowledge by the bucketful useful by the thimble!) |
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23 May 01 - 07:50 AM (#468547) Subject: RE: Going Home From: manitas_at_work Apparently Dvorak heard the tune being played by a Scots piper on his visit to the US. It's actally a tune called "MacCrimmmon will return". |
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23 May 01 - 11:02 PM (#469204) Subject: RE: Going Home From: Mudlark This is such a beautiful melody and it plays wonderfully well on a dulcimer in mix mode... Mudlark |
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23 May 01 - 11:08 PM (#469207) Subject: RE: Going Home From: Sorcha Does anybody know if it has lyrics? "Going home, going home" seems to fit so well, but I have never heard any real lyrics for it. It's beautiful on the harp as well. (strung harp, I don't play "mouth harp/harmonica". |
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23 May 01 - 11:16 PM (#469209) Subject: RE: Going Home From: Uncle Jaque I recently recorded it and played it at a Friend's funeral on a walnut low "G" open-holed flute, on which it is particularly haunting and evocative. As I recall it is one of those really old ones that nobody seems to agree on where or when it originated - English trad, Negro/Slave Spiritual, Scottish pipe tune, or what. Like "Morning Has Broken", "The Parting Glass", and a few others that seem to go back to a time before anybody remembers, or at least took the time to write them down. There is something primal and mystical about them, isn't here? |
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23 May 01 - 11:54 PM (#469232) Subject: RE: Going Home From: Mary in Kentucky tsk, tsk, Sorcha (the search queen)...there have been several discussions about this one. Try Goin' Home in the search engine. I happened to remember my post. |
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24 May 01 - 12:16 AM (#469242) Subject: RE: Going Home From: Sorcha LOL! Mary, I did do a search on the Cat. Joe Offers' words came up (minimal) but that one didn't! I guess SuperSearch has holes in it. What I always hear is: Going home, Going home, Going home with Jesus and then nothing more........except beautiful melody. Gotta be some more lyrics out there, wouldn't you think? |
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24 May 01 - 01:35 AM (#469275) Subject: RE: Going Home From: alison Sorcha I put the link to the earlier lyrics thread in up towards the top of this thread..... slainte alison |
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24 May 01 - 04:59 AM (#469321) Subject: RE: Going Home From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Sorcha's words sound like what I remember Paul Robeson singing, not the words in the earlier threads. According to the All-Music Guide he recorded it on, among,others, The Essential Paul Robeson (Vanguard) and Live at Carnegie Hall 1958. The Dvorak/Colyer version is sometimes referred to as Going Home to New Orleans to distinguish it. That starts: Going home, Going Home Back to New Orleans I'll try to transcribe the KC lyrics when I get home and post them if I get time tomorrow. |
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24 May 01 - 04:57 PM (#469782) Subject: RE: Going Home From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Musicologists have found no Negro, spiritual or any American antececent to Dvorak's melody. It is original with him. It is reminiscent of a Bohemian lullaby. However, the reference to MacCrimmon Will Return by Manitas makes me curious. I have heard piping of tunes with the same nostalgic flow, but I know the names of none of them. |
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24 May 01 - 05:14 PM (#469797) Subject: RE: Going Home From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Just found a quote from Dvorak himself, in answer to origins of his New World melodies. "I did not really use any of the Negro and Indian melodies. I simply wrote original themes of my own and developed them, whereby I exploited all the possibilities of modern rhythm, harmonics, contrapuntal technique and orchestral colour." After the first performance (in Carnegie Hall), The press wrote that the composer had declared an allegiance to American music. Dvorak responded "The motifs are my own, and some I brought with me. That is and remains Czech music." An essay for an album for the Ninth Sym. (Munich, Kempf) by Kraemer states "It was only possible to confound American, Czech and "Indian" elements because at the time no one would see that the pentatonic scales (in the English Horn melody of the largo) and the syncopation in the first and third themes of the first movement are just as characteristic of Bohemian folk music as of Negro spirituals." |
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24 May 01 - 08:29 PM (#469919) Subject: RE: Going Home From: Malcolm Douglas I've never heard of a pipe piece called MacCrimmon will return and can find no references to one so far; the pibroch Cha Till MacCruimen (MacCrimmon will never return) bears no resemblance that I can hear to Dvorak's theme. Malcolm |
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24 May 01 - 11:24 PM (#470004) Subject: RE: Going Home From: Mary in Kentucky It's quite a stretch...but I hear some similarity. MacCrimmon's Lament at Lesley's site, a g minor chord, melody line, G D D C D... And Goin' Home, a G major chord, melody line, B D D, B A G... Could it be, that when MacCrimmon returns, it's played in a major key? *BG* |
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25 May 01 - 03:34 AM (#470100) Subject: Lyr Add: GOIN' HOME (Colyer, Dvorak) From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Here is the Colyer version as rendered by Van and Lonnie referred to above. Apologies to Colyer's banjo player, John Bastable and Bill Cole on bass for not remembering their names. GOIN'HOME
Goin' home
If home is where the heart is
Goin' home
What you say
Well if I don't leave now
Probably better notharvested for the DT as the Ken Colyer Trust guard his legacy jealously RtS |