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13 Jun 01 - 11:14 AM (#482443) Subject: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Sorcha Hi all. Last night on the Radio Show the Boyz played "Yellow on the Broom." I have a couple questions:
1. "If it's in the numachi mirror, it's in the DT". Oh really? Where? Super Search doesn't find it, title index doesn't find it, but it is at numachi, here. Lyrics only, which leads to the next question:
2. If Sam n'Ian n' Bill play it, could we get the tune off them? Can't find it on the net. Thanks! Sorch, who is not having much luck finding the tunes they played! |
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13 Jun 01 - 11:17 AM (#482445) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: MMario yellow on the broom e-mail me. I have it in Noteworthy, or midi or can try and send you a graphic. |
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13 Jun 01 - 11:22 AM (#482450) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Sorcha Beats the poop out of me, Mario. I tried everything I know of, and no results. Thanks! |
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13 Jun 01 - 11:22 AM (#482451) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Noreen Beat me, MMario. What can't you find that you want, Sorch? |
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13 Jun 01 - 11:25 AM (#482453) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Noreen (I just put broom in the supersearch) |
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13 Jun 01 - 11:26 AM (#482455) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: MMario payback for the times you find stuff no one else can? *grin* |
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13 Jun 01 - 11:28 AM (#482459) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Bill D There's sort of two ways to approach the song, one is a spirited, lilting version that I have heard on CD, and there is a slower, more thoughtful way, similar to the way they did it on the show....my wife does it even a bit slower yet, making it very moving, comtemplative and, to my mind, more powerful....so as you learn it, try it at different paces and see what suits.... |
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13 Jun 01 - 11:35 AM (#482468) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Sorcha I think I found Wedding Waltz--it's a Finnish piece called Hāāvalssi, minor key, lots of accidentals?JC's has several choices, but I think they are all the same tune in diff. keys.
I can't find dots for Sally G (all I get is either one of the Salley Gardens tunes), Rubenstein, and the Goodbye,Farewell song Bill did. I think I found the lyrics in the DT (if it's the right one) but the tune won't play in WinMedia. Invalid format.......... No point in even looking for the Galician medley stuff--I couln't play it if I found it, LOL! |
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13 Jun 01 - 11:59 AM (#482499) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Robby After finding and reading the lyrics I have two questions which I hope someone will be kind enough to answer. Am I correct in understanding that the phrase "yellow on the broom" is a reference to Spring? Also, the rhythm of the verses and chorus suggests to me that this could be sung to the same tune as "Brennan on the Moor". Whether our not you would use that tune, am I correct on this observation? Thanks, Robby |
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13 Jun 01 - 12:14 PM (#482512) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Les from Hull Yes, broom is a bush (Americans, note small b) with yellow flowers that bloom in Spring. Another much older saying is 'Don't cast a clout til May's out', meaning 'Don't leave off your outer garment til the Hawthorn flowers appear.' As to the tune, as I never sing 'Brennan on the Moor', I can't really help. The refrain part of the song is nice for people to join in on and I'm sure that someone will find a way of submitting the tune to this lovely song. Les |
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13 Jun 01 - 12:17 PM (#482514) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Sorcha OK, I've got the dots now. Robby,Les, if you will PM me your e mails I'll forward MMario's e mail to me that has them. MMario, have they ever been posted here in ABC? I could do that, too......... |
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13 Jun 01 - 12:19 PM (#482516) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: MMario I don't think so. |
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13 Jun 01 - 12:28 PM (#482522) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Les from Hull I'm sure that people would appreciate the ABC, Sorcha. I know the tune well enough in my head, but I don't really have any skill with them dotty things. In the meantime, Robby - Yellow's on the Broom |
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13 Jun 01 - 12:36 PM (#482527) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Sorcha OK, I'll do a new thread with the ABC. Robby, can you read/translate ABC? |
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13 Jun 01 - 01:21 PM (#482558) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Robby Sorcha, Technologically challenged that I am, I have no clue what you just asked me. Anyway, all I have is just a little 1.5 to 2.0 Gig PC using Windows 95. And just to complicate matters, I'm musically challenged as well. Can't read sheet music. But thanks for offering. And Les, I'm a firm believer that bushes should always begin with a small "b". Unless the talk concerns Bush's Baked Beans.*bg* Robby |
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13 Jun 01 - 01:24 PM (#482562) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Sorcha hmm. Could you learn it by ear? MMario sent a sound file, too, if you computer could handle it. It's 936 bytes, whatever they are........ |
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13 Jun 01 - 01:56 PM (#482587) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Robby That's how I've learned songs over the years. The PC does have speakers, a voice modem and something called "RealPlayer", so maybe it can handle it. I'll PM you my e-mail and see what happens. Thanks, Robby |
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13 Jun 01 - 05:24 PM (#482763) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Sorcha This one |
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13 Jun 01 - 08:00 PM (#482924) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Dita I seem to remember that the source of Adam's tune was a slowed down variant of the "Female Drummer." Malcolm D, are you out there, can you verify. love john. |
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13 Jun 01 - 08:06 PM (#482931) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Snuffy That's the tune I've always heard it sung to, Dita. |
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13 Jun 01 - 08:16 PM (#482941) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Malcolm Douglas I don't recall ever hearing the song, so I'm afraid I can't help there. Mind you, anyone wanting to know more about the background should read Betsy Whyte's autobiographical book The Yellow on the Broom (1979), which , together with its sequel, Red Rowans and Wild Honey (1990), explains what it was like to be a Traveller growing up in the North East of Scotland between the wars: more-or-less settled during the winter months, but restless and back on the road "when the yellow's on the broom". Beautifully written stories. Malcolm |
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14 Jun 01 - 06:53 AM (#483168) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: GUEST,Scabby Doug at work Adam McNaughtan (the author) was at Campsie Folk Club last Friday (8 june) and closed with "Yellow on the Broom", the whole room was singing along, and as the last chorus was closing, he made his way to his seat, still singing, and sat down as it ended. Nice touch... Great songs. Cheers SD |
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14 Jun 01 - 07:56 AM (#483191) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Noreen Sorcha, the lovely song that Bill finished the radio show with is called "The Minstrel's Song" (though others in the folkchat called it "Goodbye, adieu and farewell" and "Pedlar of Songs") and was written by Alan Bell. It has been recorded by Johnny Collins on his CD titled, from the phrase in the song, Pedlar of Songs. I have searched using Google (and all three titles, and phrases), but the lyrics don't appear to be available. Maybe when Bill returns and has a few minutes... :0) Noreen |
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14 Jun 01 - 11:40 AM (#483315) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Sorcha Noreen, MMario sent me the music. I finally found the lyrics, but that is moot since I won't sing. Thanks! |
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14 Jun 01 - 11:46 AM (#483321) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: MMario I'll take the lyrics, iffen ya don't mind there? please? |
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14 Jun 01 - 12:29 PM (#483353) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Noreen Yes, post away, Sorch! |
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14 Jun 01 - 05:11 PM (#483565) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Sorcha uh, Mario, Noreen, you're not making sense---back up top of this thread is Mario's post of 13 June, 11:17 AM which links to the lyrics in the DT............??? |
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14 Jun 01 - 05:30 PM (#483578) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Noreen Sorcha- we have moved on... to talk about a different song now, The Minstrel's Song/Goodbye, Adieu and Farewell....? Remember? See my post above, 14-Jun-01 - 07:56 AM (I had to check there myself... you confused me!) Noreen |
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14 Jun 01 - 05:34 PM (#483583) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Sorcha Oh. |
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14 Jun 01 - 06:07 PM (#483624) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Susanne (skw) Thread creep, Noreen! Back to 'Yellow on the Broom': I've heard the story that Betsy Whyte herself sang the song at the 1988 Auchtermuchty Folk Festival, was feeling unwell when she left the stage and died very soon after. Very touching, but I can't help thinking it sounds slightly too good (?) to be true. On the other hand it would be very poignant if it was true. Help, anyone? |
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14 Jun 01 - 08:41 PM (#483748) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: MMario oh! thought you meant you had found the lyrics to the minstrel's song! |
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14 Jun 01 - 08:47 PM (#483750) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Sorcha Well, I thought I had--but it isn't. I thought perhaps it is the one in the DT called Goodbye Fare Ye Well but I guess not, huh? Since that is the MIDI I said didn't work, that is probably the one Jon sent to me that you made dots for, Mario.
Looks like I'll have to wait for Bill to heal up and ask him, huh? Also, I noticed on Johnny's album Pedlar that there are BOTH titles--Goodbye, Fare The Well and another song called the Minstrel's Song------now I am REALLY confoozeled!! HEY BILL!! WAKE UP!! |
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14 Jun 01 - 08:50 PM (#483753) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Noreen At least you and I knew what we were talking about, MMario! Sorry for creeping the thread- I realise now it does seem confusing, but I was answering the question-before-last... like the Two Ronnies's sketch? Never mind. Maybe start a new thread about The Minstrel's Song, Sorcha? Noreen |
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14 Jun 01 - 09:54 PM (#483793) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Noreen Two different songs there, Sorcha. |
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14 Jun 01 - 10:18 PM (#483798) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Sorcha What a mess, lol. I'll wait a few days until Bill has rested up, then ask him. Seems the easiest way. |
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14 Jun 01 - 10:46 PM (#483812) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: katlaughing There is some wonderful informative notes on Yellow on the Broom at THIS SITE. Susanne(skw) is that your songbook site? Very nice! Sorcha, would you mind emailing me the tune? Thanks! |
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15 Jun 01 - 05:28 PM (#484560) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Susanne (skw) It is, Kat. Glad you like it! However, I'm still hoping for an answer to my question. |
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15 Jun 01 - 05:33 PM (#484562) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: GUEST,kim I don't know if Betsey sang "Yellow on the Broom" shortly before she died, but she did know and sing the song, according to Ed Miller. |
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17 Jun 01 - 11:54 AM (#485437) Subject: Lyr Add: THE MINSTREL SONG (Adam Bell) From: bill\sables The Minstrel Song Alan Bell When I was a young lad and eager for the footlights and fortune and fame I met an old trouper his name it was Sam and he taught me the rules of the game He showed me the ways of the theatre, how always the show must go on I learned how to enter, to stand, take a bow whenever I sang his song Goodbye and adieu and farewell, I've loved you but now I must leave you With a smile and a song as we part, the show's over it's time to be gone But perhaps I will see you next year when I'll have some more tales to amuse you And many more tunes you will hear, I'm a minstrel a peddler of songs I've worked all the small country theatres and toured round the old music halls I've died in the first house on a wet Monday night, but lived to take six curtain calls I've starved like a beggar on Broadway, and been broke down the Champs Elesey But when the show's over and the curtain came down I could always smile and say I've courted the girls in the chorus, and lingered in many a late bar I've gazed up in awe at my name in bright lights to think I had become a star I once loved a beauty called Nancy whose loving was so sweet and strong But she wanted a house and some kids and a dog so sadly I sang my song So I've spent all my life entertaining and lived by the stage door routine I've had many chances and missed quite a few I'm not yearning for what might have been Now many long years lie behind me and I hope there are still some to come When I stand on the stage with the house lights turned down as the audience sing my song Please excuse my spelling of the French street "Champs Elesey. My love of France and all things French including their spelling is renound!!!> Cheers Bill |
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17 Jun 01 - 12:32 PM (#485459) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Noreen Champs-Elysées, (because it's nice to think about being there...) Thanks Bill, for this. Are you able to do something about the tune, or shall I try? Noreen |
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17 Jun 01 - 12:36 PM (#485462) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: bill\sables Hi Noreen I can't do tunes so you better try for me thanks Bill |
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17 Jun 01 - 01:55 PM (#485504) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Sorcha Oh Bill, thank you so much!!! Should I move it to a Lyr Add thread?? or wait for Noreen to do the tune, also? |
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19 Jun 01 - 10:11 AM (#486923) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Noreen Rash promises-R-Us... I can remember the tune to the chorus but can't be accurate about the tune to the verse, sorry. As I have no recording of the song, it would be best to leave it to someone else to transcribe. I know Liz t S has the Johnny Collins CD and I'm sure she would be able to do the dots, maybe when she gets back from her hols. Maybe start a new thread as you suggest, Sorcha, and request the tune? Sorry, folks. Noreen |
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19 Jun 01 - 10:24 AM (#486934) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: katlaughing Could get the tune from the archived radio show? If I could capture it, I could take it into Notation and Real Producer and get a midi, I think. |
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19 Jun 01 - 10:30 AM (#486942) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Noreen Clever Kat! (Letterland strikes again... Mrs. Duck, are you there??) :0) Never thought of that, Kat. Let me know if you get anywhere with it, and if not I'll seek out the archive tomorrow. I'm off to see the Eagles this evening. Nostalgia time! Noreen |
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28 Jun 01 - 09:33 AM (#493850) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: Noreen Foe ease of harvesting... see Bill's post above for words to The Minstrel Song by Alan Bell. Tune to be added as and when... Noreen |
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28 Jun 01 - 10:42 AM (#493932) Subject: RE: Info??-Yellow on the Broom From: dick greenhaus I'm a bit baffled about why folks have trouble finding things. I entered the word broom in the blue DigiTrad Search Box, and the first thing that came up was Yellow on the Broom. |