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21 Jun 01 - 07:19 AM (#488641) Subject: Whoes pigs are these From: pavane ^^ WHOSE PIGS ARE THESE (anon)
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21 Jun 01 - 07:20 AM (#488642) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whoes pigs are these From: pavane Oh Hell I managed to mistype the subject - is it possible to fix it? |
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21 Jun 01 - 07:51 AM (#488651) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whoes pigs are these From: pavane Now all we need is the tune! |
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14 Mar 10 - 11:17 AM (#2863914) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: RTim Found by ?Mike Price? of Gloucestershire and sung by The Songwainers. |
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14 Mar 10 - 02:28 PM (#2864022) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: Herga Kitty It's the first song in "Songs, Stories and a Mummers' Play from Gloucestershire" compiled by Mike Price (Michael David Keane Price)with a foreword by Dave Stephenson of the Songwainers and published by W L Langsbury in 1972, price 30p. I have an autographed (and dedicated with best wishes)copy. Mike's intro says that the book contains the songs of Harry Buckland, collected from him before his death. But the note for "Whose Pigs are these?" says " A round from the Slad valley, referring to the Gloucester Odd-spot breed of pig. I collected this myself, in 1967, from the singing of an old lady, whom I first met, aged nine, whilst wandering around aimlessly, during a Wolf cub map-reading test. She came across me, tearful, foot-sore and hopelessly lost. Before setting me on the right road, she refreshed me with goat's milk and biscuits. This encounter was to prove the start of a very valuable friendship, which has lasted over twenty years." Because Mike included it as a round, the version in his book has only the John Pott's verse, as sung by the Songwainers. Kitty |
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14 Mar 10 - 02:51 PM (#2864030) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: Les in Chorlton I suspect it has been alive and well in Cubbing, Browning (?), Scouting, Guiding for a long time. I think I first sang it inthe Scouts before 1959 L in C |
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14 Mar 10 - 03:14 PM (#2864042) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: RTim I don't think I have seen Mike Price since the first Adderbury Day of Dance (Revival) in 1975!! Tim Radford |
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14 Mar 10 - 03:49 PM (#2864060) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: Herga Kitty The last time I remember seeing Mike was when he introduced me to Laurie Lee outside Gloucester cathedral during the Boxing Day mummers' tour in the late 1970s - it would have been between 1977 and 1979, I think! Kitty |
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14 Mar 10 - 07:37 PM (#2864171) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: Smokey. John Tams sang it as "Whose tups are these?" in the National Theatre's production of the York Mystery plays. |
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14 Mar 10 - 09:08 PM (#2864214) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: GUEST,Betsy I shall always asccociate his somg with Mick Hayward and Redcar Festival. Having been asked to follow Hedgehog Pie at a singaroung - a very difficult task it will always be memorable. I think the (pigs) owners name was John Blott but could be wrong. |
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16 Mar 10 - 12:56 PM (#2865368) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose pigs are these From: JeffB Just come across this, undated :- "Whose pigs are these, these, these? Whose pigs are these?" "They are Roger the Cook's, I know them by their looks, I found them among my peas." "Go pound them, go pound them." "I dare not on my life, for though I love not Roger the Cook I dearly love his wife." |
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25 Mar 10 - 09:38 PM (#2872089) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: Jim Dixon From Notes and Queries, Series 4, Vol. 4, December 25, 1869, page 575: OLD SAYINGS (4th S. iv. 499, &c.)—Of the old saying mentioned by J. W. H., I have frequently heard one repeated (with a slight difference and an additional verse) by an old lady still living in south-east Cornwall. The version was as follows:— "'Whose little pigs are these, these, these, And whose little pigs are these?' 'They're Johnny Cook's, I know by their looks, And I found them among the peas.' 'Gо pound them, go pound them.' 'I dare not for my life; For, though I don't love Johnny Cook, I dearly love his wife.'" Wm. Pengelly. Torquay. Your correspondent J. W. H. (see "N. & Q." p. 500) may like to know that the old song about John Cook's pigs, part of which his grandfather used to repeat, was current in Sussex as well as in Yorkshire. My mother used to sing it to my children when they were infants more than forty years ago. I know the tune quite well; I consider the song as a duet, and subjoin a version of the words as I have heard them sung by my mother— 1st voice. "Whose three pigs are these? Whose three pigs are these? 2nd voice. They are John Cook's, I know by their looks, And I found them in the peas. 1st voice. Go pound them! Go pound them! 2nd voice. I dare not for my life; For he that poundeth John Cook's pigs Must never kiss his wife." M. P. M. |
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26 Mar 10 - 05:43 AM (#2872273) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: pavane Took a long time! But interesting. |
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07 Jul 10 - 05:15 PM (#2941382) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: GUEST,guest Kitty, Further to MDKP, it was 1977, Jubilee year, and St Georges Day I think, Mike was the Turkish Knight, and floated like a butterfly and stung like a bee - unique phrase in English Mummerry I think. Doughnut |
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26 Jan 12 - 10:07 PM (#3296959) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: motleyjust Where can I find the tune to this, please? |
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27 Jan 12 - 07:09 AM (#3297113) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: Mo the caller The tune that I remember hearing on radoi 2's Folk on Whichever-day-it-was-then,fitted the Tom Pott's in the vicarage garden words, but not so well to the peas/pound words above. Maybe there were 2 tunes |
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31 Oct 12 - 04:52 PM (#3429033) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: GUEST,Peter Barnard How far back does this song go? What evidence does anyone have? |
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31 Oct 12 - 06:48 PM (#3429065) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: Jim Dixon It seems to be in The Oxford Book of Nursery Rhymes, page 350. Maybe that book has information about its origin. |
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31 Oct 12 - 07:17 PM (#3429075) Subject: Lyr Add: WHOSE THREE HOGGS ARE THESE? From: Jim Dixon From Merry Songs and Ballads: Prior to the Year A.D. 1800, Volume 3 edited by John Stephen Farmer (Privately printed for subscribers only, 1897), page 278: "WHOSE THREE HOGGS ARE THESE?" [c. 1770] [A Broadside Catch with music] Whose three Hoggs are these, and whose three Hoggs are these? They are John Cook's, I know by their looks, For I found them in my Pease. Oh Pound them, oh Pound them, but I dare not for my Life, For if I shou'd Pound John Cook's Hoggs I should never kiss John Cook's wife. CHORUS But as for John Cook's Wife, I'll say no more than mum: Then, here's to thee, thou first Hogg, until the Second come. |
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31 Oct 12 - 09:02 PM (#3429124) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: Mark Ross Whose pigs are these I think I know, His home is in the village though.... No, it wasn't Robert Frost. Mark Ross |
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01 Nov 12 - 04:23 AM (#3429219) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: Richard Bridge Mayeb we should adapt it fot the conservative government. "Who are these pigs?" |
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01 Nov 12 - 06:54 AM (#3429252) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: McGrath of Harlow I wonder if Robert Frost had this in mind when he wrote "Stopping by woods": Whose woods these are I think I know.... |
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01 Nov 12 - 08:52 AM (#3429292) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Whose Pigs Are These From: GUEST,Brian Grayson 'Whose pigs are these? Whose pigs are these? They are John Potts' I can tell them by their spots And I found them in the vicarage garden' Sung to the 'Hallelujah Chorus' and/or as a round, in folk clubs in my time in England (the 70s). |