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20 Jul 01 - 08:40 PM (#511650) Subject: Bow Down From: GUEST,Goody2Shz I'm looking for the lyrics to Bow Down. The song is on the "Songs From The Mountain" CD. I've looked and looked and looked for those dadgum lyrics and can't find them anywhere on the web. Anyone happen to have, or know where I can find them. Thanks! |
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20 Jul 01 - 08:56 PM (#511661) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: mousethief I assume you do not mean the University of Washington fight song. Alex |
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20 Jul 01 - 09:00 PM (#511666) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: Malcolm Douglas There are three things you could do to help us give you an answer. First, if you haven't already tried it, search for bow down via the "Digitrad and Forum Search" on the main Forum page (there are songs here which might be what you're looking for). Second, give us some usable information about this Songs of the Mountain CD, like who recorded it and what the record label was. A search for that title at Google returns several thousand references, which few of us have time to look through! Third; can you quote even just a little bit of the words, or give us just a hint as to what the song was about? Titles of songs vary, as a rule, more than do their texts. |
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20 Jul 01 - 09:02 PM (#511669) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: Goody2Shz You gave me a good chuckle, Alex. The song is an old traditional folk song, I believe. One of the lines in it is "wind blew sand in the black snake's mouth" -- I will probably end up listening to the CD and typing as I listen. Thought I'd see if anyone knew where I could find the lyrics before I did that. dmp |
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20 Jul 01 - 09:03 PM (#511670) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: Haruo That was my first thought, too. Then I thought, maybe the "praise song" with the lines (can't recall what the incipit is) "We bow down, and we crown You the King / King of all kings you will be". Or the "March of the Peers" from G&S's Iolanthe ("Bow, bow, ye lower middle classes") and my Jonah parody of it ("Bow, bow, ye Ninevitic masses")? |
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20 Jul 01 - 09:05 PM (#511674) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: Goody2Shz Malcom -- I've spent hours on the web using Google, Mudcat, and other search engines looking for the lyrics. Last time I had this much trouble getting lyrics, I just scribed them from the CD...which, after I did that, posted them here so anybody else looking for them wouldn't have to go to the trouble I went through. dmp |
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20 Jul 01 - 09:31 PM (#511691) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: Malcolm Douglas It does seem pretty obscure; no results for black snake's mouth, for example. Tell us who recorded this CD, and we might be able to get a bit further with it. |
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20 Jul 01 - 09:36 PM (#511696) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: dick greenhaus The most common song I've encountered using the Bow Dowm as a chorus line is Two Sisters. (Child #10). There are quite a few versions in DigiTrad |
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20 Jul 01 - 09:42 PM (#511699) Subject: Lyr Add: WE BOW DOWN From: Haruo That was my first thought, too. Then I thought, maybe the "praise song" with the lines (can't recall what the incipit is) "We bow down, and we crown You the King / King of all kings you will be". Oh, here it is: "You are Lord of creation"... You are Lord of creation and Lord of my life,
Or perchance the "March of the Peers" from G&S's Iolanthe ("Bow, bow, ye lower middle classes") and my Jonah parody of it ("Bow, bow, ye Ninevitic masses")? |
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20 Jul 01 - 10:17 PM (#511719) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: Goody2Shz Although you would think "Bow Down" would be a gospel, religious, or some such song. It isn't. Lots of lines about the wind...and then there's that line about the pesky snake with the sand in its mouth... |
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20 Jul 01 - 11:40 PM (#511762) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: Malcolm Douglas Tell you what; quote what you can make out of it, and tell us who recorded it, and we might get somewhere! |
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21 Jul 01 - 12:21 AM (#511772) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: Joe Offer 2Shz - can you make a stab at transcription and tell us about the recording? Maybe we can help fill in the blanks. It doesn't sound like something we have, and it sounds interesting. Thanks. -Joe Offer, who hates snakes but is fascinated by snake songs- |
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21 Jul 01 - 08:20 AM (#511887) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: Goody2Shz Performed by Dirk Powell, John Herriman, Tim O'Brien on "Songs From The Mountain" CD. It is a repetitive song with most lines starting with the word "wind." I am close to having the words just from listening to the CD. Snippets.... All around the mountain and it was so cold Bow down Wind blew north, the wind blew south Bow down Wind blew sand in the black snake's mouth Wind blew up, wind blew back Bow down The wind blew snow in the fox's tracks... dmp -- and I hate snakes, too |
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21 Jul 01 - 09:38 AM (#511918) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: Malcolm Douglas Now that's the information we needed. It appears that Bow Down is a version of the song (Cruel Sister variant) that most of us suspected, but with a completely new set of lyrics, written by John Herrman, attached to it. As such, hardly anybody who doesn't have the record will know them, and it's not surprising that you couldn't find them anywhere. Looks like you'll have to work them out for yourself, I'm afraid. |
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21 Jul 01 - 09:47 AM (#511925) Subject: Lyr Add: THE KING OF THE NORTHERN SEA From: CRANKY YANKEE The King of the Northern Sea" is also known by the title, "Bow Down"Here's the song, just in case it's the one you're looking for. There was an old king of the Northern Sea, BOW DOWN, BOW DOWN. There was an old King of the Northern Sea BOW AND BALLANCE TO ME. There was an old Kin of the Northern Sea, He had daughters, one two three I WILL BE TRUE, TRUE TO MY LOVE, LOVE AND MY LOVE WILL BE TRUE TO ME. (all subsequent verses follow the same pattern, the words in "all caps" are in the same place for each verse) (from here on, I'll only give the 5th line, follow the pattern established above and you've got it. ) II A Young man he came courtin' there, he chose the youngest because she was fair IIIHe bought her a ring and a beaver hat, her sisters were jealous because of that. IVThe sisters walked down by the water's brim, the oldest one pushed the fair one in. VShe floated down where the Miller sat, he took her ring and her beaver hat. VIThe oldest sister was burned at the stake, the Miller was hang-ed for what he did take. |
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21 Jul 01 - 09:57 AM (#511935) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: CRANKY YANKEE I learned this one from Tom Paley around, Oh!!! 1952 or so. I do believe it is a very old song, Malcolm Douglas is right, it is a variation of the Cruel; Sister, or it could be the other way around. It's easilly as old as other "Cruel Sister" songs. By the way, Does anyone know where Tom Paley is? I haven't seen him in at least 20 years, I'd like to write him or something. If any of you out there in "mudcat Land" do have contact with Tom, just tell him Jody Gibson was asking about him, and give him my "Handle" Thanks |
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21 Jul 01 - 10:03 AM (#511943) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: Goody2Shz My thanks to all of you for your help. Once I get the lyrics scribed, I'll be happy to send them to you if you want them. dmp
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21 Jul 01 - 11:42 PM (#512280) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: dick greenhaus Tom's in Merrie England. When he isn't visiting Sweden, or summering in the Midwest (US--specific state disremembered). I can dig up his URL and let you know in a PM, if you wish. |
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22 Jul 01 - 10:57 AM (#512351) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: Malcolm Douglas The Bow down refrain was first (?) noted in England in the mid-19th century, and seems to have originated there, though at what time is unknown. Bronson (The Ballad as Song, 1969) cites a copy from Kent of c.1770, which contains the lines
Hay down down derry down
as an earlier form from which it may have developed. He considers the Bow down/ Bow and balance to me refrain to have developed in Appalachia as part of the "play party" tradition.
I put a rather long list of links to material relating to the Child #10 family of songs in this earlier thread:
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14 Jul 10 - 03:02 PM (#2945036) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down From: GUEST,Tom Paley I think I learned my version, called "The Lord by the Northern Sea", many years ago, from my old friend, Jim Blaut. I also know part of a Swedish version, the first verse being: Det bodde en bonde vid sjöastrand. (Det blåser kallt, kallt väder ifrån sjön.) Och tvenne dottrar hade han. (Det blåser kallt, kallt väder ifrån sjön.) Translation: There lived a farmer by the sea-strand (There blows cold weather in from the sea.) And two daughters had he. (There blows cold weather in from the sea.) The bit in parentheses is the refrain. In this version the father is a farmer, not a lord, but the story is much the same as other versions. Jody, I live in London, but I do get over to the States at times. |
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29 Dec 16 - 01:48 PM (#3829387) Subject: Lyr Add: BOW DOWN (from Dirk Powell) From: GUEST,Diplocase BOW DOWN As recorded by Dirk Powell on "Songs from the Mountain" (2002) All around the mountain and it was so cold, bow down All around the mountain and it was so cold, bow down All around the mountain and it was so cold, Couldn't hear nothin' but the big winds roll, bow down Wind blew north, the wind blew south, bow down Wind blew north, the wind blew south, bow down Wind blew north, the wind blew south, Wind blew sand in the black snake's mouth, bow down Wind blew up, the wind blew back, bow down Wind blew up, the wind blew back, bow down Wind blew up, the wind blew back, Wind blew snow in the fox's track, bow down Wind blew far, the wind blew wide, bow down Wind blew far, the wind blew wide, bow down Wind blew far, the wind blew wide, Little kid play on the groundhog hide, bow down Wind blew hard, the wind blew free, bow down Wind blew hard, the wind blew free, bow down Wind blew hard, the wind blew free, Dry leaves rattle on the dead oak tree, bow down Long cold nights in a tar paper shack, bow down Long cold nights in a tar paper shack, bow down Long cold nights in a tar paper shack, Chilly wind blowin' through every crack, bow dow |
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18 Jun 20 - 12:36 AM (#4059793) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down (from Dirk Powell) From: Joe Offer Diplocase sang this wonderfully today. Melody sounds like "Crawdad." Here's a recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOW5Q47IjBA |
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09 Jul 21 - 08:46 AM (#4112762) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down (from Dirk Powell) From: GUEST there lived a lord by the northern sea Bow Down x2 There lived a lord by the northern sea Bow and Balance to me There lived a lord by the northern sea and he had daugheters one, two three I will be true; true to my love Lover my love will be true to me. Jean Ritchie – There Lived an Old Lord Lyrics | Genius Lyricshttps://genius.com › Jean-ritchie-there-lived-an-old-lord... |
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10 Jul 21 - 09:30 AM (#4112858) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down (from Dirk Powell) From: John Minear Two questions. First of all where did the last verse listed above about a "Long cold night in a tar paper shack" in the transcription by Diplocase come from? I do not hear it on the original recording by Powell, Hermann, and O'Brien, and I can't find any reference to it otherwise. Also, as I listen to the original recording, here is what I am hearing as the last verse: Fog on the mountain and it was so cold, bow down. Fog on the mountain and it was so cold, bow down, Fog on the mountain and it was so cold, Couldn't do nothing but....... I can't make out the end of the last line. This is basically a repeat of the first verse with a change in the last line from "hear" to "do" and then the ending. Has anybody deciphered the ending of that last line? Or has anybody tried contacting Dirk Powell or John Hermann? Thanks. |
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10 Jul 21 - 10:05 AM (#4112862) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bow Down (from Dirk Powell) From: John Minear I think I had a foggy mountain breakdown there. I have listened again and again, again, and now I hear what apparently everyone else hears on that first verse . All around the mountain and it was so cold, bow down. All around the mountain and it was so cold, bow down, All around the mountain and was so cold, Couldn't hear nothing but the big wind (?) roar (?) bow down. And the last verse on the original recording repeats this, except there seems to be a change at the end of the last line. But my hearing may not be up to these finer nuances. Surely there are better ears than mine. I did kind of like 'Fog on the mountain..." |