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25 Dec 99 - 12:39 PM (#154101) Subject: Braiders'song From: SHANTYMAN On his CD Trawlertown John Conolly sings the Braider's song and some more interesting songs Is there anyone who can help me with the lyrics esp. the Braider's song. Other lyrics are welcome as well. Thanks a lot
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23 Jul 01 - 01:50 PM (#512670) Subject: Lyr Add: BRAIDER'S SONG (Pete Addison) From: radriano There are a lot of missing words and phrases in my transcription of this sea song written by Pete Addison of Grimsby. It's about fishermens wives making fishing nets. John Conolly & Pete Sumner recorded it on their Trawlertown album. I meant to ask them about the lyrics when they were in California earlier this year but forgot to. Braider's Song By Pete Addison John Conolly & Pete Sumner, Trawlertown, The Singing of the Fishing Now it's up in the morn to the braidin' I'll go To the cold salt and tannen down old Fishstock Road Where the work it is hard and the pay's not so hot It's thirty-nine shillings is all that you've got Chorus: With your needles a-clicking, a-swaying and rockin' Braid away Dolly, as firmly your lockin' Braid away Dolly and sing us this song As the miles of manilla are twined into one Now you've got to be fast and your stitches all tight 'Cause Laura she's watchin' to make sure it's right There's Joe Littles and Shooters and Bellytops too And Wings that are creasin' way out of view Now it's fill up your needles and make 'em a double It's cardends we're stitchin' and they're naught but trouble Fill up your needles, it's six pence a bowl And Elsie's a-callin', she's fastest of all [Well we've stitched to a net and we've braided _____] And it's ready for trawlin' beyond the [spurn?] light It's out on the [ ] and the cruel North Sea A-catchin' the fish that you bring home to me |
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23 Jul 01 - 06:51 PM (#512896) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: GUEST,Willa Spurn light is correct; refers to the Spurn lightship in the Hummer off Spurn Point. The Dogger bank was one of the North Sea fishing grounds Well we've stitched you a net and we've braided it right And it's ready for trawlin' beyond the Spurn light It's out on the Dogger and the cruel North Sea |
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23 Jul 01 - 07:08 PM (#512914) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: GUEST,Willa The road mentioned is Fish Dock Road not Fishtock Road, btw (meaning self evident). Cardends should be 'cod ends' (the cod end is part of the net) |
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24 Jul 01 - 11:13 AM (#513405) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: radriano Thank you very much, Willa! |
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24 Jul 01 - 11:17 AM (#513411) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: MMario Willa? Do you have a tune? ( I know, it's that obnoxious MMario again, always after tunes to put with the lyrics. but he's relatively harmless...) |
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24 Jul 01 - 11:51 AM (#513442) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: Les from Hull I imagine that should be 'sixpence a ball' as in 'ball of twine'. |
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24 Jul 01 - 01:43 PM (#513550) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: GUEST,Willa Yes Les, it should be 'sixpence a ball'; didn't get around to correcting that last night MMario; won't have time to post the tune tohight as I'm going out.Will try to do you an abc tomorrow - you managed to make sense of the one I posted for 'The Sun and The Moon', I saw. |
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24 Jul 01 - 01:49 PM (#513558) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: radriano Thanks, Les! |
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24 Jul 01 - 02:02 PM (#513575) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: MMario Thanks willa! Hope you are going out to have fun... |
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25 Jul 01 - 01:55 PM (#514387) Subject: Tune Add: BRAIDER'S SONG (John Connolly) From: GUEST,Willa Yes, I was. Went to see the new John Godber comedy. Here's my attempt at the tune for the Braider's song. X: 1 T: Braider's Song (John Connolly) M: 3/4 K: Bb major L: 1/8 B,3DF2 | E2G2B2 | B2A3G | GF3Z2 | B3AG2 | GF3ZD | D2F3D | DC3Z2 | B,3DF2 | E2G2B2 | B2A3G | F4BB | B2A2G2 | FB2Z2F | E2D2C2 | B,4Z4 || |
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25 Jul 01 - 02:29 PM (#514426) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: MMario verse and chorus to the same melody? |
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25 Jul 01 - 02:45 PM (#514440) Subject: Tune Add: BRAIDER'S SONG (John Connolly) From: MMario MIDI file: braiders.mid Timebase: 192 Name: Braider's Song (John Connolly) This program is worth the effort of learning it. To download the latest version of MIDItext and get instructions on how to use it click here ABC format: X:1
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25 Jul 01 - 06:58 PM (#514580) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: GUEST,Willa MMario; apologies all round, but this song is by Pete Addison, not John Connolly. I wasn't too sure when I posted it, because i bought the CD for my son, and was working from memory. I saw a friend of Pete's tonight and checked with him. Please amend the record! |
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25 Jul 01 - 07:52 PM (#514631) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: radriano In the first post to this thread, I did give Pete Addison as the author of the song! |
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25 Jul 01 - 07:59 PM (#514636) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: radriano I would encourage everyone to purchase the album Trawlertown, The Singing of the Fishing, by John Conolly & Pete Sumner, Fellside Recordings FECD135. It's an excellent recording of fishing songs. |
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26 Jul 01 - 08:35 AM (#514807) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: MMario I've already sent it out to Joe - but I will PM him with the info. |
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26 Jul 01 - 05:01 PM (#515271) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: GUEST,Willa Thanks, radriano. Your original request was about the words, and when MMario asked for the tune I didn't check back to the beginning. MMario, thanks to you, too. As far as I remember the melody is the same (or almost the same) for verse and chorus. |
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30 Nov 24 - 11:30 AM (#4212573) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: GUEST Now it's fill up your needles and make 'em a double It's CARDENDS we're stitchin' and they're naught but trouble Fill up your needles, it's six pence a bowl And Elsie's a-callin', she's fastest of all Instead of CARDENDS it will be COD ENDS. The cod end is the the smaller end of the trawl where the fish are finally trapped. |
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30 Nov 24 - 01:58 PM (#4212587) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Braider's Song From: Ross Campbell re COD ENDS I was just going to say that! Also I have just been trying to recover a copy of the CD of our Fleetwood show "It All Comes Out Of The Cod End"* Unfortunately the ancient CDs from which I had to archive the sound files were well worn and the show as recorded by the late Dave Ryan is incomplete. However all the songs on another CD were completely recovered. I was hoping that Ron Baxter's song "Braiding" would be among them but it's not. As Mudcat's "SailorRon" he used to be a frequent contributor to various maritime topics on this forum. He no longer has an on-line presence (and doesn't want one!) but he can still be contacted through me. I may already have posted the words in the "Fleetwood & Fishing: Songs of the Trawling Trade" Permathread. If memory serves me right, the lyrics are as follows - Braiding (Ron Baxter) Sat on the pavement on a summer's day, Hands all a-flashing, earning your pay With a wooden needle and a cop o' twine Braiding's fine in the summertime. Sat on the pavement in a scarf and brat All of your neighbours stop to have a chat You've no overseer bearing down Braiding's fine in Fleetwood town It may be nylon, but it's mostly jute And you can work all the hours that suit But in the end, girls, you just get paid For all of the pieces that you've made You think on your pay, well, it's not so grand But you're at home on the other hand Home wi' your kiddies at dinner-time, Home wi' your neighbours, needle and twine. Sat on the pavement on a summer's day, Hands all a-flashing, earning your pay With a wooden needle and a cop o' twine Braiding's fine in the summertime. Some of the braiding was done as out-work, a way for women with young children to earn some money at home. Some of the early fishermen's cottages in Fleetwood still have hooks above the front door which would be used to start off the pieces specified by the braiding-lofts.These would later be collected for stitching together to make the trawl-nets. I think the cod-ends would have been done in the lofts. Double-corded with much heavier twine, they would certainly have been "trouble". Boris Nets is the only braiding-loft left in Fleetwood. They still make trawl-nets, and also the circus-tent-sized keep nets for Scottishh salmon-farms. * meaning the prosperity of the town depends on the fish landing on the quay * cop = spool * brat = apron Ross |