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ADD: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)

15 Sep 01 - 05:29 AM (#550656)
Subject: Keep your hand on your ha'penny
From: Mac Tattie

Anyone Know the words to this music hall song? Anyone know who wrote and sang this? Anyone know any recorded versions? cheers.


15 Sep 01 - 02:35 PM (#550873)
Subject: ADD: Keep your hand on your ha'penny^^
From: DMcG

Alex Glasgow recorded a version on "songs og Alex Glagow II", MWM Records 1009. As best I remember it it is went

When Molly began to go courting
Her mother was anxious to tell
How certain young fellas would want her
to stray down the pathway to 'ell
So Molly's old ma used to say:

Keep your hand on your ha'penny
Cover it well with your palm
Keep your hand on your ha'penny
And Molly will come to no harm

They'll hug you and kiss you so sweetly
They'll make you feel ever so nice,
But handle the fellas discretely
And follow this simple advice:

Keep ...

When Molly and I went out walking
(I forget the rest of the verse, sorry ... I'll play the track again if you needs it: but 'the fella's says)

Take your hand of your ha'penny
Look into my bonny blue eyes
Take your hand of your ha'penny
And I'll give you --- a lovely surprise!^^


15 Sep 01 - 02:40 PM (#550876)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep your hand on your ha'penny
From: DMcG

The missing words, affrom memory again!

When Molly and I went out courting
I told her she'd nothing to fear
But down in the meadow last Sunday
I whispered these words in her ear

Take your hand off your ha'penny
Look into my bonny blue eyes
Take your hand off your ha'penny
And I'll give you --- a lovely surprise! ^^


16 Sep 01 - 02:56 AM (#551357)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep your hand on your ha'penny
From: Liz the Squeak

The (post Adge Cutler) Wurzels recorded this, it's on one of their LP's but as my mother took them to New Zealand (hooray) I can't tell you which one. It was in the mid to late 1970's though.

LTS


16 Sep 01 - 03:01 AM (#551361)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep your hand on your ha'penny
From: Sorcha

MWALLLA!! GOOD ON YOUSE!! I didn't find anything on the 'net.


16 Sep 01 - 06:41 AM (#551457)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep your hand on your ha'penny
From: Mac Tattie

Thanks to one and all. I'm shure there is more to this song, at least I now have two more verses than I started with. cheers.


16 Sep 01 - 07:24 AM (#551464)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep your hand on your ha'penny
From: clansfolk

Fellow UK Mudcatter John Bond of Penny Black recorded this song on his CD "Before it's too late" - the MP3 version is available online here.

Pete


16 Sep 01 - 03:38 PM (#551738)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep your hand on your ha'penny
From: Geoff the Duck

If I recall correctly, the song credits stated that it was written by Alex Glasgow.
Geoff.


17 Sep 01 - 02:14 PM (#552428)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep your hand on your ha'penny
From: Mac Tattie

Geoff the Duck, that would make him about 120 years old. This is an OLD music hall song, late 1800 or so. Although no doubt he (Alex Glasgow)was a capable enough writer to add a verse or two. cheers.
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06 May 06 - 10:37 AM (#1734004)
Subject: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand On Your Ha'penny
From: GUEST,Mad for trad

Any words for this song? Keep your hand on your ha'penny, Cover it o're with your hand.


06 May 06 - 11:32 AM (#1734042)
Subject: Lyr Add: KEEP YOUR 'AND ON YOUR 'A'PENNY (Glasgow)
From: DMcG

It's another Alex Glasgow one. Working from memory:


When Molly began to go courting,
Her mother was anxious to tell
He certain young fellas would want her
To stray down the pathway to 'ell
So Molly's old ma used to say:

Keep your 'and on your 'appenny,
Cover it well with your palm
Keep your 'and on your 'appenny,
And Molly will come to no harm.

They'll hug you and kiss you so sweetly
They make you feel ever so nice
But 'andle the fellas discretely
And follow this simple advice:

Keep your 'and ...

When Molly and I went out courting,
I told her she'd nothing to fear
But down in the covers last Sunday
I whispered these words in her ear:

Take your 'and off your 'appenny
Look into my bonny blue eyes
Take your 'and off your 'appenny
And I'll give you - a lovely surprise!


06 May 06 - 11:47 AM (#1734051)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand On Your Ha'penny
From: DMcG

On balance, it is probably 'covert' rather than 'covers'; woodland being more likely than a cricket pitch!


20 Aug 07 - 02:20 PM (#2129805)
Subject: Lyr. Req.Keep your hand on your ha'penny
From: GUEST,Warwick Slade

I was asked if I knew this song but unfortunately not. Does anyone know word and music? I think I can guess the sentiment!


20 Aug 07 - 04:05 PM (#2129881)
Subject: RE: Lyr. Req.Keep your hand on your ha'penny
From: Liz the Squeak

Try a Wurzels website - recorded by the only Scottish Wurzel in captivity.

LTS


20 Aug 07 - 04:08 PM (#2129885)
Subject: RE: Lyr. Req.Keep your hand on your ha'penny
From: DMcG

It was written by Alex Glasgow, I believe. I have the words somewhere, but it begins

When Molly began to go courting,
Her mother was anxious to tell
How certain young fellas would want her
To stray down the pathway to Hell.
So Molly's old ma used to say:-

Keep yer 'and on yer ha'penny,
Cover it well with yer palm.
Keep yer 'and on yer ha'penny,
And Molly will come to no harm.


03 Mar 09 - 09:59 AM (#2580244)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: GUEST,Baz

Does anyone know a tune for 'Keep Your Hand On Your Ha'penny'? I use a simple three chord rythm in Waltz time, but would like something better


04 Mar 09 - 09:04 PM (#2581492)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: Jim Dixon

This phrase is probably unfamiliar to non-Brits.

Here's the entry from Eric Partridge & Paul Beale, "A Dictionary of Catch Phrases" (2nd edition – London: Routledge, 1986):
    Keep your hand on your ha'penny (till the right man turns up) is 'an old piece of advice to an unmarried girl' (Petch, 1969): c. 1880-1970, but little used since c. 1960. Lit. 'Keep your hand over your genitals until...' The orig. is of linguistic interest, for Grose, 1785, has money, as in a domestic nurse's admonition to a female child, 'You're showing your money', in the sense 'vulva'. There is a var., three penny bit; and the expression acquired a secondary meaning: 'Be careful or you'll find yourself expensively involved': C20; by 1970, ob. (Skehan, 1977.)
The phrase occurs in H.E. Bates' novel, "The Darling Buds of May", 1958:
    'See you soon!' she waved. 'Any time,' Pop said. He laughed merrily. 'Don't do anything I wouldn't do. Keep your hand on your ha'penny ...'


04 Mar 09 - 11:45 PM (#2581543)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: katlaughing

Thanks for that, Jim.


05 Mar 09 - 04:54 AM (#2581621)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: Michael

Inflationary note:-

I only know the phrase, with same meaning, as "Keep your hands on ypur tuppence"

Mike


08 Jan 10 - 03:46 PM (#2806902)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: GUEST

Peter Foye

Just seen your web site.

I had the LP many years ago recorded by The Fivepenny Piece.

They do have a web site.


09 Jan 10 - 12:42 AM (#2807233)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: GUEST,999-- it's on YOUTUBE (I think with lyrics

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfmYIjojkMg


09 Jan 10 - 08:07 PM (#2807907)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: Tug the Cox

It was sung as a party piece in the film of DH Lawrences ' the Virgin and the gypsy' with Franco Nero and Joanna Shimkus.


10 Jan 10 - 05:12 PM (#2808572)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: JHW

My vinyl LP MWM1009 Date1975 Credits Alex Glasgow - Essex Music
I could play it and transcribe here if anyone's still interested?


10 Jan 10 - 07:29 PM (#2808663)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: Murray MacLeod

I cannot help wondering whence the "ha'penny" nomenclature for something which in my (admittedly limited) experience bears no resemblance whatsoever to a ha'penny (and I am in fact old enough to remember what a ha'penny looked, and felt, like.)


10 Jan 10 - 07:35 PM (#2808669)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: GUEST,999

Dang. Me too. The coin. Not the other . . . .


10 Jan 10 - 07:38 PM (#2808673)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: GUEST,999

Lest we forget.


10 Jan 10 - 07:42 PM (#2808677)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: GUEST,999

Canadian version of the other :-)


11 Jan 10 - 09:20 AM (#2809005)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: Tug the Cox

In the Midlands the same part of the anatomy is referred to as 'your tuppence', even though there was never a tuppeny coin.


12 Jan 10 - 09:20 PM (#2810539)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Keep Your Hand on Your Ha'penny (Glasgow)
From: Jim Dixon

From Shorter Dictionary of Catch Phrases compiled by Rosalind Fergusson from the work of Eric Partridge & Paul Beale (London: Routledge, 1994), page 80:

keep your hand on your ha'penny   a piece of advice to an unmarried girl (from the use of the word ha'penny as a slang term for the female genitals); the full form is ...till the right man turns up. The phrase dates from around 1880 in this usage; during the 20th century it acquired the secondary meaning 'be careful or you'll find yourself expensively involved'. Both senses are now obsolescent. A variant of the phrase has threepenny bit in place of ha'penny.

*
However, the oldest example I can find with Google Books is in The Darling Buds of May by H. E. Bates (London: Book Club, 1958), page 118:

'See you soon!' she waved.
'Any time,' Pop said. He laughed merrily. 'Don't do anything I wouldn't do. Keep your hand on your ha'penny.'

*
So the proverb goes back to the 1880s, but I can't find any evidence that there was a song by that name before Alex Glasgow.