Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundredth Verses

19 Sep 01 - 08:07 PM (#554439)
Subject: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: GUEST,1mouse

I know, I know, I could go home and retype them out of "Rise Up Singing," but I hoped to find Pete's lyrics here or otherwise on line. Does anyone know of a site where they are already written out so I can just forward them to someone who asked ME for them, please? Yes, I admit to being lazy. But we were singing the old traditional verses over the weekend, and I realized how much I love Pete's. Thank you!

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Old Hundred in the Digital Tradition

(not the Seeger version)

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19 Sep 01 - 10:28 PM (#554544)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: GUEST,GUEST

I questioned why you say your self to be as a rodent and thief if your werent so ignorent and lazy you could have found them for yourself http://encyclopediaindex.com/b/seegr10.htm

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19 Sep 01 - 10:47 PM (#554556)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: GUEST

On the Alan Seeger web page? Rodent though I might be, it's not there. It is however dinner time (I have been at this desk for 11 hours which is 3 too many and it is time for dinner.)

I did find references to the recorded song, but not there. I did search for "Pete Seeger" and "Old Hundred" but came up with mostly references to the song and not the lyrics.

And Mouse is a gray cat.

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20 Sep 01 - 02:35 AM (#554668)
Subject: LYR ADD: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: Lin in Kansas

P.S. ABC notation included because the "Click to Play" in the DT gives me an "invalid file format".

Lin

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20 Sep 01 - 08:29 PM (#555306)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: GUEST,1 mouse

We, and the group who will now be singing these wonderful words, thank you.

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21 Sep 01 - 01:51 PM (#555954)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: Lin in Kansas

You're welcome! :>)

Lin

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29 May 04 - 09:16 PM (#1196849)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Lin in Kansas gave the early history of "Old Hundredth" Here is a little more on this famous old song.
The tune was given English words and published in a psalter (Book of psalms) prepared by Henry Ainsworth and published in Amsterdam in 1612. The Ainsworth Psalter and the Bible were the only books the pilgrims brought with them when they came to America from Holland.
Longfellow, in "The Courtship of Miles Standish," describes Priscilla-

"Open wide on her lap lay the well-worn psalm-book of Ainsworth, Printed in Amsterdam, the words and the music together,
Rough-hewn angular notes, like stones in the wall of a churchyard,
Darkened and overhung by the running vine of the verses."

Words to the first verse differ from those given in Cyberhymnal, (Kethe's words from the Genevan Psalter and copied in the Ainsworth Psalter):

All people that on earth do dwell,
Sing to the Lord with cheerful voice.
Serve Him with mirth, His praise forth tell;
Come ye before Him and rejoice.

'Mirth,' not 'fear'

Thomas Ken, 1709 (1674?), wrote these well-known words to the Old Hundredth (Doxology) (the last verse of his longer hymn, "Awake, My Soul, and With the Sun"), using the Bourgeois tune from the Genevan Psalter:

Praise God, from whom all blessings flow;
Praise Him all creatures here below;
Praise Him above, ye heav'nly host;
Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Seeger did an excellent job. Do we need another slight revision for today?

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29 May 04 - 10:44 PM (#1196873)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: masato sakurai

From earlier editions:

The whole booke of Psalmes, collected into Englishe metre by T. Sternhold, W. Whitingham, I. Hopkins, and others: conferred with the Hebrue, with apt notes to sing them withall. Newly set forth and allowed to be song of all the people together, in all chu. (London: Printed by Iohn Daye, dwelling ouer Aldersgate, 1583, pp. 272-73)

The Whole Booke of Psalmes: With The Humnes Evangelicall, and Songs Spiritual (1621, Psalme 100)

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29 May 04 - 10:56 PM (#1196878)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Masato, is the Ainsworth Psalter printed in Amsterdam available on the internet? I think it should be, but couldn't find it.
I see the English psalters use 'fear' in the first verse, not mirth.

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29 May 04 - 11:02 PM (#1196881)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: The Fooles Troupe

Lin in Kansas -

http://www1.tpgi.com.au/users/afostes/miditext.html as linked above is not there anymore.

The version of the midi file linked to referred to above
http://media.mudcat.org/MIDI/OLDHUND.MID (313 bytes downloaded)
gives an error that it is not compatible with any of my midi players - is it corrupted?


(see also http://help.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=2559&messages=25)

Robin

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Hi, Robin - it works in the Windows and DOS versions of the Digital Tradition, but apparently the semi-automated conversion to MIDI didn't "take" - although I can download the MIDI file and play it in programs other than Windows Media Player. You'll note that we posted a tune to Mudcat MIDIs to replace it.
-Joe Offer-

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30 May 04 - 12:16 AM (#1196913)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: masato sakurai

Q, I'd like to see the Ainsworth Psalter, too. It hasn't been found on the net so far. I'm thinking of getting this monograph (from here):

The Music of Henry Ainsworth's Psalter (Amsterdam, 1612)
by Lorraine Inserra and H. Wiley Hitchcock, 1981 (no. 15) $10
The 39 tunes in Ainsworth's psalter—brought to the Plymouth Colony by the Pilgrims—are analyzed and reproduced in facsimile and transcription. "…Its detail [is] extensive, accurate, and perceptive." (Notes)

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30 May 04 - 07:17 AM (#1197020)
Subject: Lyr Add: PSALM 100 (from Bay Psalm Book)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Seems odd that it isn't on line. Its successor with the Pilgrims, the Bay Psalm Book, Cambridge, Mass., Stephen Day 1640 ("Whole Booke of Psalmes...," first book printed and entirely written in the Colonies) is in e-text here: Bay Psalm
It gives this for Psalm 100 (Book 4):

A psalm of praise

1 Make ye a joyful sounding noise
unto Jehovah, all the earh:
2 Serve ye Jehovah with gladness:
before his presence come with mirth.

3 Know that Jehovah he is God,
who hath us formed it is he,
and not ourselves: his own people
and sheep of his pasture are we.

4 Enter into his gates with praise,
into His courts with thankfulness:
make ye confession unto him,
and his name reverently bless.

5 Because Jehovah he is good,
for evermore is his mercy:
and unto generations all
continue doth his verity.

Note 'mirth,' not fear, in this text.

This website does not photographically reproduce the original.

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30 May 04 - 10:07 AM (#1197076)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: masato sakurai

The Bay Psalm Book (facsimile edition, University of Chicago Press, 1956) looks like this (long s's are used):

            Psalme 100.
       A Psalme of praise.
MAke yee a joyfull sounding noyse
    unto Iehovah, all the earth:
2 Serve yee Iehovah with gladnes:
    before his presence come with mirth.

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30 May 04 - 12:40 PM (#1197114)
Subject: Doxology
From: Joe Offer

The Doxology is actually only the last verse ("Praise God from whom all blessings flow..."), an additional prayer of praise added to the end of Psalm 100. Here are some other well-known doxologies:

Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit
As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be
World without end. Amen.

Through him, with him, and in him,
In the unity of the Holy Spirit
All glory and honor is yours, almighty Father
Forever and ever. Amen.

For thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory
Forever and ever. Amen.
(doxology appended to the Lord's Prayer)

It seems to me that doxologies are often Trinitarian endings to prayers that may not have originally been Trinitarian, but maybe that's just my own experience and not a general rule.
-Joe Offer-

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30 May 04 - 01:43 PM (#1197144)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Interesting how mirth became fear (or v. v.) in some versions. Is there a doctrinal difference here?
(asked out of complete ignorance of the subject)

Thanks, Masato. The e-text of the Bay Psalm Book is in modern English, and one worries that changes might have been made by the editor. At least the first verse of '100' is not changed in meaning.

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30 May 04 - 10:06 PM (#1197438)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: masato sakurai

"Voluntary on the Old Hundredth" [midi] by John Blow (1649-1708) is here. "Both Blow and Henry Purcell may have contributed to the development of this piece. Blow's arrangement of the Old Hundredth is here used as a coda."

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30 Jul 04 - 11:30 PM (#1237629)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Pete Seeger's Old Hundred Verses
From: masato sakurai

From Lorraine Inserra and H. Wiley Hitchcock, The Music of Henry Ainsworth's Psalter (Amsterdam, 1612) (I.S.A.M. Monographs: Number 15, 1981, pp. 114-15):

Psalm 100

Showt to Jehovah al the earth.
   Serv ye Jehovah with gladnes;
before him come with singing merth.
   Know that Jehovah he God is.

It's he that made us and not were,
   his folk and sheep of his feeding.
O with confession enter yee
   his gates, his courtyards with praising.

Confess to him; bless ye his name,
   because Jehovah he good is.
His mercy ever is the same,
   and his faith unto al ages.

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