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Origin: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o

09 Oct 01 - 04:11 AM (#568018)
Subject: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: GUEST,Macduff

Does anyone have information on this song? What was it's origin? I heard it sung in Dublin streets many years ago. Or did I? Help


09 Oct 01 - 04:22 AM (#568020)
Subject: RE: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: MudGuard

See previous thread on this song


09 Oct 01 - 01:37 PM (#568313)
Subject: RE: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: Jerry Rasmussen

Margaret MacArthur and family recorded this song.. Knowing Margaret, she could probably tell you everything there is to know about the song...


09 Oct 01 - 03:29 PM (#568395)
Subject: RE: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: Wyrd Sister

Other thread gives game as I remember it. Does anyone know a similar game with the song something like: there came a Duke a-riding, a-riding, a-riding, There came a Duke a-riding something something-ey. Oh will you marry me, sir, etc etc (sorry can't do your line breaks) This may have continued with insult verses, something like "your nose is like a tomato". It was played with two lines facing. On alternate verses, each would move forwards and back. I think there was some kind of capture/chase at the end. This game was imported into our playground from another in the city (Northern UK), hence my haziness.


09 Oct 01 - 05:46 PM (#568500)
Subject: RE: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: Tig

I've got the words for that one in a songbook of playground games. We played both of them.


09 Oct 01 - 05:56 PM (#568508)
Subject: RE: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: Snuffy

5 versions in the Digital Tradition database here THREE DUKES , but the one I learned as a kid was more like #4 of the nine versions here THREE DUKES (2).

WassaiL! V


10 Oct 01 - 04:40 AM (#568804)
Subject: RE: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: okthen

Amusing version at the very end of Kate Rusby's "Little Lights", well it brought a smile to my lips.

bill


10 Oct 01 - 05:03 AM (#568811)
Subject: RE: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: GUEST

They used that song with kids singing it as a play song in the street in the movie "Girl With the Green Eyes" with Rita Tushingham. That's where I first heard it.


10 Oct 01 - 06:05 AM (#568828)
Subject: RE: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: GUEST,English Jon

One of the first songs I ever learned. My uncle Kieth used to sing it to me when I was very young indeed.

EJ


11 Oct 01 - 03:19 PM (#569951)
Subject: RE: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: Wyrd Sister

Thanks folks. Neither 'Dukes' link rings strong bells after the first verse. Maybe we made the rest up when no-one could remember it.


11 Dec 07 - 09:33 PM (#2213533)
Subject: RE: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: GUEST,Carole

Me and me friends sang this at primary school back in the 50's in the school yard, as did me mam. Was told it was about the Manchester Ship Canal, and being from Manchester, we were dead proud of it at school. We'de make a long line and hold hands and go under the arm of the kid who were chosen, and he or she would put their hand on the wall like it were a bridge on the canal. 'The big ships sail on the Alley Alley O' Can just hear us all now, we had nought, but they were happy uncomplicated days.


12 Dec 07 - 12:45 AM (#2213611)
Subject: RE: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: GUEST,iancarterb

Check The Revels site- I first heard it sung by Jack Langstaff at Pinewoods, and I think it and its lineage are included in one of his songbooks.


12 Dec 07 - 07:10 AM (#2213717)
Subject: RE: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: GUEST,Jonny Sunshine

Can't tell you anything about the origins of the song, but it happened every year on the last day of Spetember, unless we were feeling silly, in which case it was the "umpteenth of Octember"


05 Oct 10 - 09:34 AM (#3000073)
Subject: RE: Origin: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: GUEST,Dave

In the mid to late forties we sang "The big ship sails through the Illy Ally Oh, the Illy Ally Oh, the Illy Ally Oh, The big ship sails through the Illy Ally Oh, all on a Sunday morning - I don't remember any more but we sang it in York. Carol Guest's suggestion that it originated in Manchester and refers to the Ship Canal certainly makes sense and could well be the origin. Cheers!


30 Sep 11 - 04:54 AM (#3231525)
Subject: RE: Origin: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: GUEST,kate

We sang the big ship sales though the alley alley O on the last day of September. We sang it in the school play ground in the late fifties/early sixties in the same way as Carol Guest but we held onto the moveable metal netball post! Kate x


30 Sep 11 - 04:55 AM (#3231528)
Subject: RE: Origin: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: GUEST,kate

re. last link, we were in Eccleshall, Staffordshire.


12 Jul 13 - 01:59 PM (#3536769)
Subject: RE: Origin: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: GUEST,Nellie platt


21 May 16 - 04:37 AM (#3791406)
Subject: RE: Origin: Big ship sailing on the alley alley-o
From: GUEST

We played this at primary school in the late 50s early 60's in Thundersley Essex. The person at the front of the chain would sstand sideways next to a tall fence, near the outside toilets, to make an arch and then everyone else would join hands and troop beneath this bridge.