17 Oct 01 - 12:59 PM (#574246) Subject: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: Amos OF interest to those alarmed about the media blowhardity on the subject of checmical, biological and nuclear modes of attack is the ofllowing, which is attributed as signed. Regards, A.
>Subject: "Real" Deal about Nuclear, Bio, and Chem Attacks |
17 Oct 01 - 02:10 PM (#574292) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: Donuel Good times , End times As events turn worse It's too late to learn If you're breathing the curse It may be our turn With sorrow to come Still the Dark Ages Were Golden for some DH
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17 Oct 01 - 02:39 PM (#574313) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: DougR Good article, Amos. Thanks for posting it. DougR |
17 Oct 01 - 04:07 PM (#574350) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: GUEST,mg Good article. And doesn't it make you furious, as I have been for years, that in many buildings, including schools, including hospitals, there is no way to open a window to let stuff out. You are left with engineered air, which at best is not maintained properly, with people putting filing cabinets in front of air ducts,and god knows where they put the intake air..sucking up exhaust fumes at one university hospital...mixed in with laboratory air in another university hospital. If you have a choice, choose not to live or work where you can't open a window, either to get out or to get air in. mg |
17 Oct 01 - 04:11 PM (#574354) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: Little Hawk Yes, that's a healthy dose of common sense. - LH |
17 Oct 01 - 06:16 PM (#574424) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: Murray MacLeod Good post Amos. It is refreshing to see threads like this appearing, and the other one WYSIWYG opened on anthrax, to counterbalance the paranoia which has grabbed so many of the populace. Murray |
29 Oct 01 - 10:30 PM (#582395) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: Amos Thanks, Murray. In other news, this linkoffers a new perspectve on the tragicomedic insanity of things -- "Warning!! Do Not Confuse Food with Bombs, Noble Afghans!!". Oy! A. |
29 Oct 01 - 10:33 PM (#582396) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: Amos Sorry, that clicky had a knot in it. Try this one. A |
30 Oct 01 - 06:45 AM (#582500) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: GUEST Actually, the above article has already been posted to another 9/11 thread. Just like the "Bad Marriage" thread had already made a previous appearance on Mudcat. Apparently, people here have short memories. |
30 Oct 01 - 12:16 PM (#582666) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: Donuel Despite the order to not "nit pick". The above document is feel good pollyana drivel that has no substance in covering the actual weapons and agents. I have posted previous multipage documents and my views on bio war, not to alarm but to inform. The feel good propoganda as seen above succeeds only in the absence of hard facts. Wash your hands...what a wonderful deterence. Whether I post facts from CDC and NIH or make satire about such horrendous scenarios of bio war, the unwashed public will always prefer the feel good "everything is fine" message. For those who can not seperate fact from terror, perhaps they will be best served with the spin from the service veteran above. |
30 Oct 01 - 12:49 PM (#582676) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: Troll Don,
Just what are the "hard facts" that are at variance with the Sgts "feel good propoganda". You don't need to know everything about chemical and biological agents to survive them. troll |
30 Oct 01 - 02:21 PM (#582711) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: GUEST,MandolinMike I noticed in another thread, Donuel, you live in Silver Springs, Maryland--Are you aware that Anthrax was found in your area? How are you handling that? |
30 Oct 01 - 09:08 PM (#582891) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: Little Hawk Myself, I'd rather be utterly terrified, in a blithering blind panic, and completely beside myself, given the choice... (which pretty well describes my mother when her little doggies are out of her sight for more than 3 minutes...) Look, we all have our own way of being happy and finding meaning in life, okay? I recall when flattop thought the world was going to collapse on Jan 1, 2000 because of the Millennium Bug. It didn't. Talk about a major disappointment! He still carries the wounds today... - LH |
30 Oct 01 - 09:27 PM (#582900) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: GUEST,CarolC (without cookies) Was that why he had a secret shelter unerneath the front hall closet, LH? He told me he just built it because Johnny Death wanted a secure place to store his 10,000 LPs. |
31 Oct 01 - 08:57 AM (#583019) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: Irish sergeant Are CBR devices nasty? You bechum Red Ryder! However, Sgt Red's post is what the military was teaching and I assume still is. A few points if I may: Nukes: I can't add much to what he said except that if it happens and you're outside the immediate zone (Ground Zero) Wash and use copious amounts of soap and water. Chemical; These agents are highly variable and are highly dependent on weather but get out of the area as soon as possible in a calm manner. Bio agents; Follow the guidelines the post office put out for anthrax and if you come down with something unusual or get a case of something that won't quit, seek medical attention. Kindest regards, Neil |
31 Oct 01 - 09:59 PM (#583583) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: Donuel Mando mike, Two of our Capitol Hill friends were tested. Holy Cross Hospital where our 2 sons were born is treating 3 anthrax victims. Our postman dissappeared but it turns out he broke his ankle. When I skinned my knuckle and the scab turned black it made me think twice. As for mail, for the last year I have kept a garbage can by the mailbox so junk mail doesn't even make it inside the house. Anthrax is real minor league stuff compared to contagious agents. Our ties to NIH could not be closer.
troll, surely you recognize spin even if it is the military that is doing the spin. If you don't, telling you the grisly details and facts will not alter your seemingly automatic contrary point of view.
I have already posted the awful truth about these agents here. I was told no one wants to hear that kind of thing.
Some are so keen on "need to know" military compartmentilization, they feel happy not knowing. For myself I view the need to know concept as ultimate arrogance.
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31 Oct 01 - 11:03 PM (#583602) Subject: RE: BS: War, Strategy & Tactics:Part Four From: Troll Don, yours is the contrary point of view. I asked, "Just what are the "hard facts" that are at variance with the Sgts "feel good propoganda"." You never answered the question. Obviously you feel that everyone should wade through the web sites of CDC and NIH to learn every bit they can about NBC warfare. So what do those august bodies recommend that the Sgt's letter does not? That's two questions and I'm not being contrary just for the sake of being contrary. Was the letter too simplistic? Did it recommend things that won't work? If this is what the military is teaching in its NBC Warfare Schools, then it's probably pretty straight dope. The Armed Forces are not in the habit of sacrificing men for "spin" or"feel good propaganda", especially not to something as potentially devastating as Nuclear, Chemical, or Biological attack. troll |