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19 Oct 01 - 07:14 AM (#575435) Subject: Suvla Bay From: Dunc My father recalls the following verse from a song his mother used to sing. I've drawn a blank searching...any ideas? Away in an Australian homestead with roses round the door Stood a girl with a letter in her hand that had just come from the war He did his bit that day - and lost his life at Suvla Bay Dunc |
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19 Oct 01 - 07:30 AM (#575446) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: MudGuard THE BAND PLAYED WALTZING MATILDA and one of the Foggy Dew versions (As down the glen one Easter morn) are the only two songs I knew so far mentioning this place Suvla Bay. But I found this: Suvla Bay Hope this is the one you are looking for! MudGuard |
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19 Oct 01 - 07:37 AM (#575450) Subject: Lyr Add: SUDA BAY From: masato sakurai I've found another version.
SUDA BAY (WWII)
In an old Australian homestead
2. She joined a band of nurses
SOURCE: HERE. ~Masato
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19 Oct 01 - 07:39 AM (#575454) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: red flag My grandfather fought at Sulva Bay in WW1 |
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19 Oct 01 - 09:24 AM (#575527) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Snuffy Look in this thread Anti-war songs frm WWI for a version of Suda Bay posted by Bob Bolton (17-01-00), plus some discussion on the song. Wassail! V |
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19 Oct 01 - 07:21 PM (#575953) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Mr Red Hi red flag I work at a company called Pennant. Is that a coincidence or am I just a thread creep?. |
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21 Oct 01 - 07:38 AM (#576692) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Dunc Thank you all for your help on this one. Does anyone know of a CD or recording of this song? I would love to get a copy for my Dad...His 90th Birthday is coming up in December. Dunc |
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21 Oct 01 - 05:41 PM (#576927) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: ddw Red Flag, Then you're damned lucky to be here. Not that many made it back from that mess. david |
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22 Jul 02 - 12:27 PM (#752445) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: GUEST,Dale Dunc, if you are still monitoring this thread and you still don't have the song, I can Email you a copy of Suvla Bay by Ray Kernaghan. If you'd rather have it, his Silver Jubilee Album is available here ~~ http://vs2180.server-store.com/store/item.inetstore?id=1104 I don't know where you are, but that ia an Australian album ~~ worth having, but not all that easy to find. |
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19 Oct 02 - 06:09 AM (#806555) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: GUEST,laufenburg@wanadoo.es Hi: My great mother left Ireland to America direction in 1920. The last song, she listened meanwhile took a boat was "Foggy dew". She knew to Can.Rev.Charles O'Neill. When I was child, and from my birth, she sang this song to me. This song is very important for me, and she died in Spain, after to try to go back to her lovely and ever green land, Ireland. For that, this song is so important for me. Once, I listened this song by a woman singer some fews years ago, I do not know exactly who was she. But she remember to my grandma's voice. From Spain, Slán to all. Pilar. |
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19 Oct 02 - 06:44 AM (#806566) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Roger the Skiffler This has strong resonances in my family. My mother's oldest brother died at Gallipolli in WW1 (blown up, only some of his equipment identified,) and her youngest brother died in the battle for Crete in WW2 and is buried in the war cemetery there. Both were scarcely out of their teens. RtS |
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19 Oct 02 - 06:48 AM (#806568) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Tam the bam fraeSaltcoatsScotland My Grandfather also fought in the Gallapili campaign during WW1, and was sent home before the end. Tom |
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19 Oct 02 - 06:54 AM (#806573) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Tam the bam fraeSaltcoatsScotland Here's the lyrics to Sulva Bay http://www.acronet.net/~robokopp/english/sulvabay.htm |
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19 Oct 02 - 06:56 AM (#806576) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Tam the bam fraeSaltcoatsScotland I'll try and send a linkhttp://www.acronet.net/~robokopp/english/sulvabay.htm |
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19 Oct 02 - 03:37 PM (#806824) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Kenny B (inactive) Slim Dusty Recording of Suvla Bay I have a tape of this somewhere, if anyone requires it I can convert it to CD nabd send it on. |
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22 Oct 02 - 08:17 AM (#808443) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: GUEST,t.davis37@ntlworld.com greetings Kenny B, my name is Terry from Swansea South Wales,please can you get in touch with me about a copy cd copy of Sulva Bay. Many Thanks Terry |
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09 Nov 02 - 01:11 PM (#822303) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: GUEST, Dale Does anyone have information as to authorship? |
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09 Nov 02 - 09:13 PM (#822523) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: mmb Clarification Request: How many locations are being discussed in this thread? I'm seeing "Suvla Bay," "Sulva Bay," and "Suda Bay." I'm okay with the explanation of Suda Bay, but am not sure whether Suvla Bay and Sulva Bay are separate, real, entities, or one is a different spelling of the other. Thanks. M. |
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09 Nov 02 - 11:10 PM (#822556) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: GUEST,Q Suda Bay on Crete was involved in the Battle of Crete, WW2. German forces, in a land, sea, air battle, defeated the "British" and Greek forces. The "British" were forced to evacuate the island. Losses were severe and more forces were lost during the evacuation. A number of British warships were lost or severely damaged. I put "British" in quotes because Australian and other forces were involved, but Chambers just puts British in their minimal description of the Battle of Crete. Suvla Bay of WW1 is not in modern atlases because proper Turkish names are now applied, but it is the bay at the northwest corner of the Gallipoli Peninsula on the Aegean Sea (opposite side of the peninsula from Gallipoli). It is now called Büyuk Kemikli Burun. In the Enc. Britannica article on the Dardanelles Campaign, there is the remark "As a consequence of the failure in Suvla during the early days of its occupation, certain changes in command were carried out." The major failing was not moving inland at once. Eventually, the Bay was evacuated. |
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09 Nov 02 - 11:20 PM (#822557) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: GUEST,Q Modern atlases have changed the name Gallipoli to Gelibolu, or give them both. The "Anzac Cove" on the Gallipoli Peninsula is in the large indentation to the south of the "Suvla" area. Cape Hellas is the extreme southwest tip of the Peninsula. These names, of course, are no longer on current maps. |
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09 Nov 02 - 11:34 PM (#822562) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: GUEST,Q Bob Bolton posted the words to Sulva Bay- Suda Bay in thread 32539: Sulva Bay In the National Geographic Atlas, nothing is shown at the location of "Anzac Cove" and "Cape Hellas" is not noted, but it is where the town of Seddülbahir (Sedd el Bahr on older maps) is located. |
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17 Jun 04 - 02:52 PM (#1209348) Subject: RE: Suvla Bay From: berny666 i need to find a copy of this song in a bit of a hurry can anyone help many thanx berny |
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17 Jun 04 - 06:50 PM (#1209491) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Joe Offer Hi, Berny - if you're looking for lyrics and the tune, follow the links in this thread. If you're looking for a recording, that might be harder to find. -Joe Offer- |
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17 Jun 04 - 09:08 PM (#1209562) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: freda underhill Sulva Bay is a misspelling - its Suvla Bay. And the word goes that you could have been arrested for singing this song during WW1- it was meant to be bad for troop morale, and bad for the country's morale during war time. My father taught me this song, and someone recorde me singing it at Gulgong festival one year. That recording is somewhere in a war museum in London, I was told. I could sing it and send you a tape if you wish - pm me, and I'll send you my email. best wishes freda |
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18 Jun 04 - 10:38 AM (#1209887) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: JennyO I wish I had a recording of the time Bill Bekric sang it with Jennie G doing a harmony between the lines. Maybe freda and I could do it together, cos I remember how Jennie's harmony goes. |
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18 Jun 04 - 08:25 PM (#1210200) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: JennieG Bill Bekric told me he learnt the last verse from his stepfather; Bill taught me the harmony at a session a few years ago. Cheers JennieG not singing much this week due to the Dreaded Lurgy! |
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19 Jun 04 - 07:58 AM (#1210355) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Carol I sing the song as Suvla Bay and the words are mainly from my mother In an old Australian homestead with Roses round the door A girl received a letter that had just come from the war With her mother's arms around her, 'neath the blue australian skies She slowly read that letter then hung her head and cried Why do I weep, why do I cry, my love's asleep, so far away He played his part that August day and left my heart in Suvla Bay She has joined a band of nurses and beneath that cross of Red She has gone to do her duty for her loved one who was dead Many man they came to woo her, but she sent them all away When she told them of her loved one Who lay dead in Suvla bay Why do I weep etc. twice Yes, I can understand why it would have been considered bad for troop morale! |
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19 Jun 04 - 11:27 AM (#1210446) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: JennyO Oh no Jennie, not the dreaded lurgy again! Didn't you have something like that about this time last year too? So far I'm lurgy-free, touch wood. |
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17 Feb 10 - 05:33 PM (#2842358) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: GUEST,liz does anyone have a copy of sulva bay by ray kernaghan they could email me. thanks |
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17 Feb 10 - 10:58 PM (#2842603) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: MGM·Lion 'Ernest Raymond (1888 - 1974) was a British novelist, best known for his 1922 book, Tell England, set in World War I.' Wiki === Out of interest, this book which I grew up with as it was a fave of my father's [b1901], is set in the Dardanelles campaign in which the author had served, & gives a good account of what the fighting there was like ~ with, naturally, much ref to Suvla & Hellas as the joint centres of the fighting. |
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21 Feb 10 - 07:25 AM (#2845670) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: GUEST,liz it is the song version that i am looking for, thanks |
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21 Feb 10 - 07:52 AM (#2845688) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Tradsinger The Gloucester gypsy Wiggie Smith sang it as Dunkirk Bay. See http://www.mustrad.org.uk/articles/smith.htm. Tradsinger |
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12 Jul 15 - 03:52 AM (#3722978) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: GUEST Australians didn't serve at suvla bay. they didserve at suva bay in ww2 new guines. suvla bay was a british do, ix corp irish brigade. |
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12 Jul 15 - 08:57 AM (#3723014) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Lighter Suva is in Fiji. No fighting took place there in either World War. Australian and New Zealand troops landed at Suvla Bay in the Dardanelles on April 25, 1915. |
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12 Jul 15 - 09:42 AM (#3723022) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Sandra in Sydney Google maps, Suvla Bay Turkey - the word Anzac near the roundabout on the major (yellow) road is a hotel! Google image search on Suvla Bay Turkey |
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12 Jul 15 - 10:43 AM (#3723039) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: GUEST,# The Landing at Suvla bay - poem by Reg Ecclestone http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/ww1lit/gwa/document/8747/2495?bt=europeanaapi |
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12 Jul 15 - 03:29 PM (#3723106) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Steve Gardham I'm sure I've posted this before. Never mind. I have 2 copies of Suvla Bay (In an Old Australian Homestead) sheet music. It is credited to Jack Spade. One copy has Charlie Chester on the cover and the other has Bertha Wilmott. Both are copyrighted 1944 and 1948 and there is no indication of an earlier WWI version. I first came across it being sung by ex servicemen from WWII. There are recordings on the BL Sound Archive website as sung by my friend the late Mick Robinson and my late uncle Harold Sykes. |
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12 Jul 15 - 03:34 PM (#3723109) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Steve Gardham By the way it has a lot of similarities with the song 'You'll be happy little sweetheart in the spring' 1943 |
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12 Jul 15 - 03:38 PM (#3723113) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Lighter Steve, I looked into the song's background for Gwilym, and my findings match yours precisely. "Jack Spade" may be a pseudonym. It is possible that he or someone he knew actually did write the song during WW1 or not long afterward, but there is no trace of it before 1944, and no evidence that it was known at all, if it existed at all, in 1915-18. |
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13 Jul 15 - 05:19 AM (#3723242) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: JeffB Sorry Lighter. You're wrong about the the Anzacs landing at Suvla Bay on 25th April. That was the date they landed at Anzac Cove, and it is commemorated every year in Australia as Anzac Day, probably the most important day in the Australian events calendar (after the Melbourne Cup of course). The Suvla Bay landing was in early August. It was a purely British affair, and was a dismal fiasco. The accounts I've read of both landings say that, despite the myths of storms of shot and shell, they were relatively unopposed by the Turks; in fact the Australian author Alan Moorehead (in his excellent book Gallipoli) says that on the afternoon of the 25th an Australian unit almost made a significant break-through which would have opened the way to an advance into the interior of the peninsula. It was one of the couple of occasions on which the campaign very nearly succeeded, but unfortunately the Aussies came up against a platoon of Turks commanded by Kemal himself. |
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13 Jul 15 - 07:54 AM (#3723284) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Suvla Bay From: Lighter JeffB, of course you're right about the exact location of the ANZAC landings, just a few miles south of Suvla proper. Careless of me. I spent an hour trying to determine whether "Suvla Bay" technically included ANZAC Cove. I mistakenly took the name "Suvla" to include the nameless (?) larger bay, where the cove is located, and which is separated from the real, much smaller, Suvla Bay by only a narrow headland. Obviously no Australian or New Zealander would have made such a mistake. "Suvla Bay," however, provides far greater rhyming possibilities for a distant songwriter than does "ANZAC Cove." At any rate, the presence of "Suvla Bay" certainly makes it more likely that the song is of English rather than Australian origin. But that rhyme...that mellifluous sound.... |