25 Oct 01 - 12:44 PM (#579528) Subject: The Lincolnshire Farmer From: pavane I came across this when browsing the Bodleian Ballad library, but have never heard of it before. The Lincolnshire Farmer To summarise, the farmer suspected his wife was playing away, and went to a conjurer. The conjurer arranged a trick with what appears to be superglue on the chamberpot. Inevitably, the wife and the Parish Clerk became stuck to the pot (as well as some other characters), and were forced to admit what they had been up to. The clerk ends up paying the farmer a sum of money to avoid losing his "nutmegs". Does anyone know a tune for this? |
25 Oct 01 - 12:52 PM (#579538) Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lincolnshire Farmer From: MMario no luck searching BruceO's site. |
25 Oct 01 - 12:54 PM (#579539) Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lincolnshire Farmer From: Eric the Viking The music can be found in a book of English folk songs, by Cecil Sharp-funny, I had just picked it up in the library today!-put it back down though instead of bringing it home. Co-incidences abound here on mudcat. I will try and get a copy of the tune for you. |
25 Oct 01 - 05:27 PM (#579810) Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lincolnshire Farmer From: Malcolm Douglas The text of a broadside almost identical to the Bodleian examples appeared in English Dance and Song (vol. 54, no.1, Spring 1992), in an article by Roy Palmer. That particular broadside was titled, The Enchanted Piss-Pot, and was printed by Thomas Hughes of Hereford, probably in the closing years of the 18th century. Palmer commented: "It is a version, with many minor changes in phraseology and the omission of fourteen lines, of The Lancashire Cuckold; or The Country Parish-Clerk betray'd by a Conjuror's Inchanted Chamber-pot, to the tune of "Fond Boy", which was printed in the 1690s for J. Blare "on London-bridge". This has six-line stanzas but the tune fits the Hereford text if the second couplet of each verse is repeated."
Claude M. Simpson (The British Broadside Ballad and Its Music, 1966) gives the melody for Fond Boy, as published in the Thesaurus Musicus of 1693 and credited to Thomas Tollett. A midi made from the notation in that book goes to Mudcat Midis, and meanwhile can be heard via the South Riding Folk Network site:
The Enchanted Piss-Pot ("Fond Boy")
In two places it has been necessary to split notes into two in order to accommodate the lyric. It should be borne in mind that there is no evidence beyond guesswork that this version of the song was ever actually sung to that tune, but it is not unreasonable to suppose that it may have been. A broadside copy of the earlier song (printer and date unknown) can be seen at Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads:
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25 Oct 01 - 06:07 PM (#579837) Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lincolnshire Farmer From: GUEST,Guest 2 late 17th century copies of "The Lancashire Cuckold" (J. Blare issues) are listed at ZN1600 in Bruce O's broadside ballad index. The C. M. Simpson's tune for it, "Fond Boy", is given as an ABC, B143, on his website in file BM1.HTM. |
25 Oct 01 - 06:10 PM (#579839) Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lincolnshire Farmer From: MMario Thank you malcolm and mysterious guest,guest ;)
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02 May 04 - 01:37 PM (#1176398) Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lincolnshire Farmer From: Alex.S The song "Lincolnshire Farmer" is, I think, the same as "The Highwayman Outwitted" Which you can find all over the web. |
02 May 04 - 02:01 PM (#1176410) Subject: RE: Tune Req: The Lincolnshire Farmer From: Malcolm Douglas No; that's a completely different song, though both it and the Enchanted Piss-Pot have sometimes turned up under the same or similar titles. It was published on broadsides (Such of London) as The Lincolnshire Farmer's Daughter, and examples can be seen at Bodleian Library Broadside Ballads: The Lincolnshire farmer's daughter Compare it to the broadside links given earlier and you'll see that the story is entirely different. It's certainly a very common one, with variations turning up as The Yorkshire Bite, The Crafty Ploughboy and all manner of other titles. The Piss-Pot, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have been found very often in tradition. |