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15 Feb 98 - 01:53 PM (#21488) Subject: Scots Music List & IRTRAD ? From: There have been a few references, in posted threads, to the IRTRAD & Scoct Music List, which I take to be sites or some type or form of newsgroups on trad music. Could those how know about these please inform me about them & explain (in dummy language) how to get there & sign onboard. Thanks. Barry |
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15 Feb 98 - 02:54 PM (#21491) Subject: RE: Scots Music List & IRTRAD ? From: Bruce O. First let me tell you a little about what you are getting into. All postings to the list come into your e-mail inbox. Probably few will prove of any interest. SCOTS-L has gotten better recently, only one long series on whether Scots should be called Scotch, and a few recipies, with many comments on variations. Some actual questions and answers on Scots music and songs, even. I think the server is is in U.S. My subscription to this somehow got fouled up, so I hope Timothy J. will tell you how to do it right. I never got the instruction file, so when a posting came through I had to e-mail a member on the list (someone I knew) list how to post to it. IRTRAD-L server is in Ireland, so you may have some long distance phone charges. There have been as many as 60 per day, so it takes a fair amount of time each day to inspect what you've got and see what's interesting and worth saving. A few intemperate individuals have been thrown off the list. A bit of nonsence show up here, too. Also every once in a while some advertiser figures out how to post some SPAM on the list. If you still wish to go on: Send to IRTRAD-L SERVER sub IRTRAD-L Your Name (as you wish it to appear) You name and e-mail address will appear on all your postings. You will be sent instructions on how you are to confirm your subscription. After acceptance to the list you will get a file telling you how to post, get a digest of postings, and other matters. Both, incidently, are free. You can't be anonymous on either list. |
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15 Feb 98 - 03:00 PM (#21492) Subject: RE: Scots Music List & IRTRAD ? From: Bruce O. Whoops, darn HTML, I'm sure I typed the address. Send to: IRTRAD-L SERVER (left angle bracket)LISTSERV@listserv.hea.ie |
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15 Feb 98 - 04:28 PM (#21495) Subject: RE: Scots Music List & IRTRAD ? From: Bruce O. When www.reference.com gets working again, you can enter IRTRAD-L in the find box, a get a listing of recent postings to the list, and click on them and read them. You can get an idea of what you're getting into that way before subscribing. You can, of course, unsubscribe from the lists if you want. |
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15 Feb 98 - 05:55 PM (#21496) Subject: RE: Scots Music List & IRTRAD ? From: Charlie Baum One correction to Bruce O.'s above post: the way e-mail works, long-distance charges aren't incurred. |
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15 Feb 98 - 05:58 PM (#21497) Subject: RE: Scots Music List & IRTRAD ? From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca The subscription info for the Scots list is as follows: > > It's simply a message sent to: > >majordomo@listbox.com > > With a message body of: > >subscribe scots-l > Bruce Olsen is right -- if you don't like deleting a lot of e-mail then don't bother, although his posts are always worth the read (check out his web page relating to broadside ballads -- he has obviously spent many years working on the subject.) Having said that, the traffic is generally not as heavy compared to some lists except when a topic flares up differing opinions. It is certainly not as mail intensive and as wildly off-topic as the Cape Breton Music List. The Scots or Scottish (or Scotch or Scoatch!:)) list is mainly music, heavy on the fiddle, but also includes culture and language. That's why the discussion on such things as word usage (Scotch/Scottish/Scots/Scoatch). There are also discussions on gaelic and the occasional post in that language. People were also posting beer and ice cream recipes but that seems to have died down. There can apparently be problems if you have some kind of nanny software, since people don't tend to mince their words when they have something to say. |
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15 Feb 98 - 08:10 PM (#21505) Subject: RE: Scots Music List & IRTRAD ? From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca I should mention that's " subscribe scots-l " with the letter "L", not a 1 (one). |
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16 Feb 98 - 05:21 PM (#21534) Subject: RE: Scots Music List & IRTRAD ? From: Barry Finn Thanks all, Tim Jaques, I got into IRTRAD-L, kind of like De Ja News (?) does that come through the e=mail or can I go through that site. I didnt have luck getting to the Scots Music List, do you need to subscribe first? Barry |
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17 Feb 98 - 01:51 PM (#21584) Subject: RE: Scots Music List & IRTRAD ? From: Bruce O. Tim's a little tardy in replying, so I'll try. Yes, you do have to subscribe to scots-l. Follow Tim's instructions in his message of 5:58 P.M. Feb. 15. |
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17 Feb 98 - 06:41 PM (#21603) Subject: RE: Scots Music List & IRTRAD ? From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca No, it is not like Dejanews because it is not a newsgroup. Dejanews lets you look up old postings to newsgroups, which is sometimes useful to see where certain people have been hanging around and making posts, and what they have posted. (And let that be a warning to all who think that their newsgroup posts end up in never-never land after a brief period.:)) The Scottish Music and Culture list and the Irish Trad list are e-mail lists. You have to subscribe as above, which tells the listserver (the computer that looks after the list) that you want to send and receive messages to the list. It comes in as e-mail, and as Bruce O. says you can sometimes get quite a pile. the Scots Music and Culture list "postings" are archived at http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~ibb/scd/Music/ so remember that anything you say during the course of discussion or argument eventually gets put onto the World Wide Web. I don't know if the postings are culled for relevancy first. I don't know the procedure concerning the Irish Trad list or if it is archived on someone's web site. I have stayed away from it as I have a habit of sometimes not being able to avoid an argument or discussion, and I am told (as Bruce O. says above) that if you are looking for an argument the Irish Trad list is the place to find it.:)(My information is that bodhran players should tread lightly!:)) Oh, and make sure you know how the list works before you make a post. On most lists, if you post "Reply to Author" it will go to everyone on the list because the e-mail comes not from the author, but from the list address. This can be embarrassing if you want to post to a friend on the list "Look at Murphy! The fool has never talked a word of sense in his life." Everyone on the list including Murphy gets the e-mail. The Scots list is like this. On other lists, if you hit "Reply to Author" it only goes to the author of the individual e-mail to which you are responding and no-one else gets to see your words of wisdom. There is also a trad ballad list, the subscription info for which I do not have but which I may hunt down one fine day. (Maybe someone could post it here.) You might be able to find it through http://www.liszt.com but there are now literally thousands of mail lists on every imaginable subject, so it is often time consuming to frame a search to find what you want. When you do, the subscription information is given. There are mail lists relating to specific instruments too, and the music of a great many different nationalities. It is fun to do a Liszt search sometimes just to see what obscure interests have a sufficient following for a list. I assume that you already know about the newsgroups, rec.music.folk , rec.music.celtic , and uk.music.folk . |
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17 Feb 98 - 06:50 PM (#21604) Subject: RE: Scots Music List & IRTRAD ? From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca I should also mention that there are at least two lists for those involved in the folk music business, such as artists, managers, agents, venues, etc. I haven't subscribed (I got the information for a friend who is in that line of work) but the information I got from a perons on the lists was send a message to listserv@psuvm.psu.edu with the notation in the BODY of the MESSAGE: Subscribe Folkbiz or Subscribe FOLKVENU depending which of the two you want. (If you want both, I assume that you'd have to do two separate messages.) I am informed that there is a list specific to Canada, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were ones specific to the UK and to the "Down Unders" as well. |