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05 Nov 01 - 08:14 PM (#586336) Subject: Looking for a good sea chanty From: GUEST,Medieval Man To All Who Know Their Sea Songs: I sing with and direct a professional chorale in So. Miami. I arrange and orchestrate many medleys of songs for the singers on a host of Ameican styles: folk, bluegrass, old time church songs, Early American hymntunes, country gospel, etc. The medley I'm working on now is one of sea songs. I need one more good tune to close the medley. Here are the parameters that I (lossely) have in place: The sea song or chanty should be: 1. A good acoustic guitar song, like the lead off song of the medley: "Santiano." 2. One with a verse and chorus relationship, as opposed to only a repeating verse with no different chorus tune. 3. Up tempo song conducive as an ender of a 12-14 minute medley. 4. Major or minor key, however the two songs preceding are major. A exciting minor tune would go well here. 5. One with a colorful story or narative. 6. A New England sea chanty would be fine; I want the tune to be American, but it can (and probably will of necessity) have Newfoundland, Irish, or English roots. 7. I will eschew, for this medley, whaling songs. Any recommendations will be much appreciated. Michael Roy (Medieval Man)
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05 Nov 01 - 08:24 PM (#586338) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for a good sea chanty From: Snuffy Johnny Come Down to Hilo is a wonderful tune and chorus. The words would appear to be American, but definitely not PC - you may have to adapt them somewhat. "Railroad navvy with his work boots on" is one possible amendment. WassaiL! V |
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05 Nov 01 - 08:30 PM (#586340) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for a good sea chanty From: Dead Horse Alabama John Cherokee, Blackball Line, Haul Away Joe or Haul Away For Rosie-o,Liverpool Judies, Heave Away Me Johnnies (two versions - Atlantic & Tapscott),John Kanaka, could keep on, but there are no good shanties, only bloody good ones;-) |
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05 Nov 01 - 08:38 PM (#586346) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for a good sea chanty From: masato sakurai The site Shanties and Sailor Songs / Shantys und Seemannslieder could be your resources. ~Masato
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05 Nov 01 - 08:38 PM (#586347) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for a good sea chanty From: GUEST,Don Meixner Roll Alabama Roll All For Me Grog (Cleaned up a mite) A Capitol Ship Maggie May (Cleaned up) Botany Bay The Mermaid Sailor's Hymn (Title may be off, Rod Mac Donald tune) Clear Away, The Morning (Take Me Back on the Bay Boys) Too many to choose from Don |
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05 Nov 01 - 09:31 PM (#586375) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for a good sea chanty From: KAS Hi Michael, These seem to fit all your criteria very well: Farewell and Adieu (Spanish Ladies) Pull Down Below South Australia Jamboree Old Moke Pickin' on a Banjo Ranzo Ray Roll the Woodpile Down Let the Bullgine Run They all have many great and easily findable versions to choose from (basic versions of each can be found right here in the DT/Forum), they're all available on various CDs, several have nifty region-specific versions (Woodpile's got Florida right there for you), basic historical background on each is relatively easy to find, and they're medley-friendly - easy to sculpt, instrumentalize, and adapt. Bonnie Hieland Laddie and Bonny Ship the Diamond are also fantastic, and fit your other criteria, but they are about whaling. If you end up considering whaling songs, either of those might end a medley right well. If you check out the Midi-file tunes here on Mudcat for any you might not have heard, I think it would help to keep in mind that the demo tunes posted are often fairly slow and would probably make more sense sung faster, and that the tune selected as an example is usually derived from only one version of the song. There are zillions of other ways the things could sound. Best of luck, Ken Schatz |
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05 Nov 01 - 10:17 PM (#586401) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for a good sea chanty From: Amos Hullabalo, Belay Bound for South Australia Away to Rio Haul Away, Joe The Banks of Newfoundland All good songs that fit the bill... |
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05 Nov 01 - 10:47 PM (#586415) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for a good sea chanty From: GUEST,mgarvey@pacifier.com stowing sugar in the hold below..not sure where it is from though. |
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06 Nov 01 - 12:40 AM (#586505) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for a good sea chanty From: KAS Sugar in the Hold is a cargo-loading chantey from the U.S. Gulf Coast. It mentions Mobile Bay and New Orleans. I don't immediately picture it in a chorale medley myself, but if one is looking for inspiration to experiment, William Pint and Felicia Dale recorded interesting arrangements of both Sugar in the Hold and Johnny Come Down to Hilo (mentioned by Snuffy above) with voice, acoustic/electric guitar, keyboards, and percussion on their album Round the Corner. Cheers, Ken |
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06 Nov 01 - 12:48 AM (#586508) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for a good sea chanty From: Peter Kasin Leave Her, Johnny was the traditional end of voyage chantey, used at the ship's pumps. It's a beautiful melody. Stan Hugill's massive study, Shanties From The Seven Seas is the "bible" of the genre. A good recording for other chanteys that would fit your needs is Mystic Seaport's CD "American Sea Chanteys." chanteyranger |
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06 Nov 01 - 03:38 AM (#586543) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for a good sea chanty From: GUEST There's an amazing resource here ....just take your pick of the sound files wooden ships music |
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06 Nov 01 - 03:55 AM (#586550) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for a good sea chanty From: GUEST,Boab Don Meixner had a good list- add "Sally Brown". |
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06 Nov 01 - 08:28 AM (#586627) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for a good sea chanty From: Charley Noble Too many choices! Be nice if there was a local shanty group nearby that could demonstrate some of these shanties for your group; you can listen to some of our MP-3 files at our website: rollandgoseasongs.com Please give us a progress report! |
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07 Nov 01 - 06:17 AM (#587282) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Looking for a good sea chanty From: Mr Red I would recommend "Blood Red Roses" but then I would. May I caution that unless they are forebitters they were not intended as pretty songs. Dare I suggest if you have a group you can demonstrate one chanty as a visual thingy, they rarely had many men - hence the need for chantying? It will change the way you sing and bring variety. Good Luck |