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Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)

12 Nov 01 - 01:33 AM (#590622)
Subject: Complete BS
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

What is the best hot drinking chocolate you have tried? I dont really drink coffee because it gives me a headache, but I like hot drinks in winter.I have been drinking Cadburys Options, but they are expensive (about 50p a sacet), I have just bought a big jar of Asda own label Hot Chocolate, it was cheap but not very good, no matter how much I stir it up there is a lump of sludge at the bottom of the mug.Grasteful for any advice.john


12 Nov 01 - 01:46 AM (#590625)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: CarolC

From scratch hot chocolate:

2 mugs full of milk

enough powdered cocoa (plain) to make it taste the way you like it

sugar to taste

a tiny pinch of salt

arrowroot or cornstarch (about 1 teaspoonfull)

almond extract to taste (probably about 1/8 to 1/4 teaspoon)

Mix dry ingredients together in a saucepan. Mix wet ingredients in a separate container. Gradually add the wet ingredients to the dry, mixing carefully to break up lumps, until all is incorporated. Heat over medium to medium high heat, stirring constantly, until mixture thickens somewhat. Enjoy.


12 Nov 01 - 01:56 AM (#590628)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Liz the Squeak

Green and Blacks organic cocoa powder, make from scratch. If you like bitter chocolate you'll LOVE Green and Blacks, it's organic and fair trade too!

Green and Blacks Maya Gold - chocolate how the Mayans' ate it.... with cinnamon and spices... yum!!

It's only the last 300 years that it's been sweet, it was drunk like coffee before then.

LTS


12 Nov 01 - 04:55 AM (#590658)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Gervase

Ah chocolate - the devil's food!
Someone slipped me a chunk of something brown and fiery on Saturday and completely altered my appreciation of chocolate.
It turned out to be an organic dark chocolate with serious amounts of chilli in it, distributed in the UK by a company called Montezuma's and it was astonishingly good.
Chocolate and chilli? Don't argue - they were made for each other (remember Juliette Binoche in Chocolat - as if anyone could forget her!). Seriously good tucker. Now I'm going to try to make some drinking chocolate with a good pinch of chilli...


12 Nov 01 - 05:36 AM (#590663)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: bill\sables

John, Don't be a whimp. Chocolate is for babies. Get yourself a box of Yorkshire Tea and be a man.
Cheers Bill


12 Nov 01 - 05:41 AM (#590665)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: GUEST,small piper at work

In the Royal Navy they used to drink a thing called Kye. It's like melted Cadbury's milk chocolate and it's to die for! Can't get it in civvy street more's the pity. Just thought I'd tease you with that.


12 Nov 01 - 06:21 AM (#590672)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: MudGuard

bill, whether it is for babies or not depends on the amount of the most important ingredient in the hot chocolate: Amaretto (Italian almond liqueur).

Best way to do hot chocolate: crush one bar of Lindor chocolate (the best Swiss chocolate) into a mug, fill up to about 3 quarters of mug height with milk, heat slowly (best: put mug in pot with water, bring water to boil) while stirring, till chocolate is dissolved, fill mug to top edge with Amaretto


12 Nov 01 - 06:22 AM (#590673)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: MudGuard

forgot to say it: one bar of Lindor means 100g


12 Nov 01 - 06:53 AM (#590683)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Gervase

You can get something approaching kye with a kick with a bar of bournville plain, just under a pint of hot milk and a double tot of dark rum (nothing lighter than Cockspur, so you get the lovely molasses taste).


12 Nov 01 - 02:55 PM (#590971)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Noreen

MudGuard, when did we arrange that I was coming to visit? *grin*


12 Nov 01 - 03:20 PM (#590988)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: wysiwyg

Does "Complete BS" mean this will be the last and final, all-inclusive installment of BS? *G* Because if so I want to be sure to get my item in before it's too late-- the Subliminal Mind Control Pillow theory. You see our college-age daughter moved out recently while we were asleep, although leaving piles of mess behind, because we are so controlling.

Yes, it's true, we gave her free use of a car for daily use at all hours, paid the insurance, gas, so forth... We provided free room and board on short notice, when her announced plan fell through to live elswewhere, self-supporting this semester (her choice, not our expectation either way)... we set no curfew, asked no questions about where she was going, cast no aspersions on her friends... gave her the easy household chores she chose, and then did them for her when her class load was too heavy to leave time to do them... paid the unpaid balance from last year's college costs when she "forgot" that quitting her work-study job on campus last year would leave her $1200 short, after we were already picking up about half the cost of the total bill.... paid her book fees this year and once again underwrote a large portion of the tuition fees.... asked her over and over and over if she had calculated ALL fees, she said she had, we budgeted accordingly, then she was $80 short due to one forgotten fee, and it was ALL OUR FAULT the money was gone. Yes, we bought groceries, I am ashamed to confess!

Our crime in Mind Control? We asked two things. When she wanted to change schools (and our payments) we asked her to plan the transition soundly, and twice I asked her-- this was my own crime-- if she knew whether she would be with us for supper, or if we should work around her and do our own thing.

Our conclusion was that she must have figure out that the whole time she had been living under our roof, she had been (gasp!) under the influence of the evil Subliminal Mind Control Pillow we had put in her room. Yes, we must have been silently brainwashing her.

It is so much the fashion in today's world of abused individuals that in a backlash against the abuse, we think we see control freaks lurking under every sleeping head. As if people can actually be controlled that easily! Yes, this is the popular reaction when one is having trouble thinking for oneself-- someone must be trying to conTROL us!

Get YOUR Subliminal Mind Control Pillow today, parents, and use it right away, and you too can be totally responsible for every imagined misery your children wish to blame you for!

People who know us and how relaxedly we raised our kids have been laughing their asses off as we talk about that pillow. I think I should make a few to auction off.

~Susan


12 Nov 01 - 03:33 PM (#590997)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: MudGuard

Noreen, come any time, but give me 1 day advance warning so I can fill up my chocolate and liqueur stores in time.

Btw., another Mudcatter (known to you, Noreen) has just visited me yesterday: Susanne (SKW)


12 Nov 01 - 04:05 PM (#591034)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Bat Goddess

Made from scratch with Bensdorp cocoa. Or Dalloyau Chocolat Chaud a l'Ancienne (little tear-shaped chocolate wafers) that a friend used to bring me from Paris (pre-Sept 11)

I'm checking out sources for Mexican spiced chocolate as well.

Bat Goddess


12 Nov 01 - 04:11 PM (#591037)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Noreen

Thanks, Andreas! Will a day's notice be enough for you to make the lovely chocolate cake as well? (Are you a chocolate addict too, Susanne?)

I feel a chocolate overdose coming on... and not a chip of it in the house...

Susan, I'm sorry to hear of your trouble with your daughter. Would you like a share of the virtual chocolate too?

Noreen


12 Nov 01 - 04:17 PM (#591045)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: wysiwyg

Yes, thanks! Pour it all over me!

Oh THAT's what we failed to provide-- all the chocolate she could eat, drink, and bathe in! *G*

~Susan


12 Nov 01 - 04:22 PM (#591048)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Liz the Squeak

Noreen, he's staying with ME!!!! (well, hopefully, in preparation for the Stony Stratford gig....) Andreas, did we discuss rent??

(and in the tradition that AlanW seems to have started, but I can't do the italics....

"Oh the chocolate's no for you, my chubby lassie-o...."

LTS


12 Nov 01 - 04:31 PM (#591053)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Noreen

Liz- I wondered how long it would take you to sniff out the chocolate (even virtual chocolate works!) Silly question, I know, but: is there any of the American chocolate left? *sniff*

<i> do this to make italics- go on, try it! </i>


12 Nov 01 - 04:34 PM (#591055)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Jeri

I've got Giardelli's mix here right now, and it's pretty good. (You need real milk for it - none of that powdered stuff included.) I also have a box of Droste cocoa, which makes wonderful hot chocolate. A trick straight off a previous box, purchased in Holland, is to add a little bit of butter on the top.

The best stuff I've had was the Mexican hot chocolate. I think I bought that when I was in Indiana. It comes in solid blocks which you heat up slowly in about a quart of milk. I never got the entire chunk to disolve completely, but it was sort of fun to find a lump of concentrated flavor down at the bottom. Amazing taste! (And yes, it included cinnamon and other spices.)


12 Nov 01 - 05:25 PM (#591098)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Bill D

That Mexican spiced chocolate can also be grated into powder over oatmeal or rice pudding or into coffee, etc...YUM!


12 Nov 01 - 05:30 PM (#591103)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Liz the Squeak

YES!!

LTS (and no it didn't.)


12 Nov 01 - 06:09 PM (#591141)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Noreen

Yes!! There is some American chocolate left??!


12 Nov 01 - 08:16 PM (#591245)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

Thanks for all your sugestions everybody.Does any body know about any nice instant chocolate?


12 Nov 01 - 08:36 PM (#591261)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: CarolC

"Nice instant chocolate" is an oxymoron.


12 Nov 01 - 10:54 PM (#591332)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: wysiwyg

Amazing taste, how sweet and brown

That saved a wretch like meeeeeeeeee......

Go Jeri!

~S~


12 Nov 01 - 11:32 PM (#591355)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Peter K (Fionn)

Noreen, in your line about italics, how did you stop the beginning and end from disappearing, and the rest from going italic?


12 Nov 01 - 11:46 PM (#591359)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: MMario

what was actually typed was:

ampersand*l*t*semicolon*i*ampersand*g*tsemicolon do this to make italics- go on, try it! ampersand*l*t*semicolon*/i*ampersand*g*t

where the actual symbols used for ampersand and semicolon, and the astericks removed. (no spaces)

if that makes any sense.


13 Nov 01 - 03:27 AM (#591414)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: MudGuard

Fionn, to show the <> do it like this: &lt;i>blabla&lt;/i&gt; (and to show a & you have to type &amp;)

Noreen, to get the chocolate cake as well, 2 days advance warning! To get mousse au chocolot (like Susanne got it on Sunday), another day advance warning.

Liz, no, we did not discuss rent. But you can rent me on these days around Stony Stratford - and I promise I won't demand too much rent!


13 Nov 01 - 03:29 AM (#591415)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: MudGuard

Oh oh, mistyped the &gt; after the first i (I only typed &gt; instead of &amp;gt; - hope I got it right this time)


13 Nov 01 - 06:59 AM (#591460)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Noreen

OK MudGuard, I'll check my diary!

Fionn, if that's as clear as mud/chocolate, I'll go through it again, at a time of your choosing... (I didn't actually do it the way MudGuard and Mario said, I just looked at it a certain way and it did what it was told...)


13 Nov 01 - 08:33 AM (#591488)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Bill D

to do this <a href=http://mudcat.org</a> the easy way, get this little program Show HTML Code

It's a simple copy and re-paste operation,,,the program knows how to write all those ampersands for you...and it will also do colors and font sizes.


13 Nov 01 - 09:01 AM (#591499)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: GUEST,Celtic Soul

Mmmmmmm! I'm with you! I have an allergy to caffeine which makes coffee *really* bitter tasting to me (not to mention that, if I have too much, I'll wind up in the hospital), so I do the cocoa/tea thing myself. Nothing beats real hot chocolate, but who has the time???

Here are my alternatives!

*Any* hot chocolate when accompanied by one of those specialty creamers: Amaretto, Irish Creme, whatever! Even 7-11 cocoa comes out tasting like gourmet.

Double up on the amount of powder when using generic cocoa brands, or add some bar chocolate yourself.

Spiced Chai! Especially from Starbucks. Personally, I tell them to make it *extra* strong, as (to me), it's too wimpy otherwise.

Hot buttered rum! I've seen it all of once in my life here in the states, but it was a nice alternative to the usual "Irish Coffee" (which is the one and only hot alcoholic drink I have otherwise seen).

MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM! Gonna have to go to Starbucks now!


13 Nov 01 - 05:03 PM (#591870)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: MudGuard

BillD, your code for a link is mighty incorrect: The quotes around the URL are missing, the > after the URL is missing, the text to click is missing!

Correct code for a link: <a href="http://www.mudcat.org">click me</a>


13 Nov 01 - 05:42 PM (#591898)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: GUEST

Mudguard,

Modern browsers don't need the quotes - indeed the esteemed mudcat faq suggests leaving them out.

I still include them myself - but I still browse with lynx ;-)


13 Nov 01 - 06:05 PM (#591918)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Bill D

*grin*...I don't believe I have EVER included the quotes in a URL...it really does work without them...Joe Offer has done research on this and thinks it 'may' even be a problem at times..(it sure is one more thing to worry over!)

and isn't the "click me" or any text optional? Lets see...one with & one without

click me

in any case, the point of the program is to display whatever you type without making a link, and that works fine for lazy old curmudgeons like me who have learned only the basics of HTML


13 Nov 01 - 06:09 PM (#591924)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Bill D

hmm..ok, text is needed here. But I have seen chats where the program picked up the HTML and created a default text if you didn't include one..(something like this may be in the plans for the Mudcat upgrade)...gives you a choice.


14 Nov 01 - 04:55 AM (#592273)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: MudGuard

Guest and BillD, it is not a question of browsers, it is a question of the HTML standard.

In HTML 4.01 it says in Chapter 3.2.2:

By default, SGML requires that all attribute values be delimited using either double quotation marks (ASCII decimal 34) or single quotation marks (ASCII decimal 39). Single quote marks can be included within the attribute value when the value is delimited by double quote marks, and vice versa. Authors may also use numeric character references to represent double quotes (&#34;) and single quotes (&#39;). For double quotes authors can also use the character entity reference &quot;.

In certain cases, authors may specify the value of an attribute without any quotation marks. The attribute value may only contain letters (a-z and A-Z), digits (0-9), hyphens (ASCII decimal 45), periods (ASCII decimal 46), underscores (ASCII decimal 95), and colons (ASCII decimal 58). We recommend using quotation marks even when it is possible to eliminate them.

Your url contains a slash, a slash is not listed above, therefore, the value of the href attribute has to be quoted.

When using the even more modern XHTML, every attribute value has to be quoted (see Chapter 4.4 of XHTML 1.0):

All attribute values must be quoted, even those which appear to be numeric

And yes, the Mudcat FAQ says the quotes are optionally here in the Mudcat, but this is one piece of the FAQ that I do not agree with - correct HTML should always be used as incorrect HTML can lead to more browser problems than correct HTML.

MudGuard


14 Nov 01 - 05:03 AM (#592279)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

very intresting, but whats all that got to do with drinking chocolate? :-)


14 Nov 01 - 06:02 AM (#592297)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: MudGuard

What has all that got to do with drinking chocolate?

Isn't that obvious? You need to drink lots of chocolate to understand it! Especially the mixtures containing Amaretto, Rum, Brandy or other forms of C2H5OH


14 Nov 01 - 11:46 AM (#592449)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Noreen

Sorry John!

I used to like the instant Horlicks chocolate drink which came in a cuboidal tub (much nicer than any other instant drink I have tried). I don't know if it's still available, but will try and find out.

Noreen

For a spoonful of chocolate helps the h-tml, go down...


14 Nov 01 - 12:24 PM (#592486)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Bill D

wowee-zowee, MudGuard (note capital "G") *grin*...they sure do have it spelled out!..never having seen the "official rules" or even had any idea where to go look for them, I was unaware that I had transgressed!

Obviously, there are places where leaving out the quotes might be a problem, (in complex web pages, I suppose)...but I'm sure they realize that unless they make it so it doesn't work the other way, amateurs will do it 'wrong'..It's like pennies in the fuse box and driving screws with a hammer--it is a shortcut which works until it **doesn't** work.

I guess the 'standards' have been fudged and adulterated until you'll NEVER get compliance. (Look at me, trying to keep 'folk' and 'trad' undefiled..*grin*)

well, I will try to do better...

<a href="http://www.mudcat.org">click me</a>

...but the road to universal compliance is rocky, indeed!


14 Nov 01 - 12:26 PM (#592488)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Bill D

(BTW, Noreen...a spoonful of chocolate INSTEAD of H-TML might be better..*smile*)


14 Nov 01 - 12:33 PM (#592495)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Cllr

I like to add Southern Comfort to Chocolate. But Irish Coffee might be more practical for every day consumption as it contains all four major food groups. (which are of course Fat,Sugar,Alcohol,and Caffine.) Cllr


14 Nov 01 - 01:13 PM (#592523)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: MudGuard

Depends on how you drink the Irish Coffee.

Just a few days ago I heard John Sheahan (The Dubliners) say: we are going now for a cup of coffee (waiting, till the laughter in the audience died down) Irish coffee (again waiting for the laughter to end) without the coffee (he had vanished behind the stage before the laughter had ended)

Btw, John, if I do not have the time or ingredients for proper hot chocolate (see above), I sometimes use "Cacao Fantasy" (from a Dutch Company called Douwe Egberts)


15 Nov 01 - 04:49 PM (#593528)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Peter K (Fionn)

So when did John Sheahan fall off the wagon?

John from hull, I'm terribly, desperately sorry about what I did to your thread, with just one simple, innocent question. But the answers have gone beyond my wildest dreams, and I don't really like hot chocolate anyway!


15 Nov 01 - 05:06 PM (#593539)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Uncle_DaveO

Gervase said:

"It turned out to be an organic dark chocolate with serious amounts of chilli in it, distributed in the UK by a company called Montezuma's and it was astonishingly good."

But don't the beans give you gas?

Dave Oesterreich


15 Nov 01 - 05:17 PM (#593546)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Uncle_DaveO

Gervase, can you be a little more explicit as to what's added to the cocoa powder? "Chili" (or "chilli") can mean different things. I'm sort of assuming that you don't mean what Americans refer to as "chili powder"; or do you? It's a mix of garlic powder, ground cumin, salt, and other stuff. Did you perchance mean ground hot red pepper, or cayenne? I'd rather like to try it the way you refer to.

Dave Oesterreich


15 Nov 01 - 05:27 PM (#593554)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Sorcha

Dave O--REAL chile doesn't have beans in it. I'll bet Gervase means ground red chile--chile molido. It's hot and sweet, but not the mixed stuff that has other flavors in it. I have seen a recipe for brownies that has chile powder in it. Pretty good brownies, too.

Just another note about chile and chocolate--there is a classic Oaxacan (Mexico) Aztec dish called Mole that is red chiles, chocolate, nuts, (pinon, sesame), peanut butter,raisins and stock in it. Served with/over chicken or turkey. Good stuff!


16 Nov 01 - 01:16 PM (#594107)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Uncle_DaveO

There's a restaurant in Indianapolis, Cafe Santa Fe, which is not really Mexican, but more creative US Southwest. Whenever I eat there, I look appreciatively over the menu, which has a lot of things you don't usually see in a Mexican resturant-----and then I order the chicken mole! Wonderful.

Dave Oesterreich


04 Dec 01 - 07:04 PM (#603755)
Subject: RE: Complete BS
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

I have found a nice hot chocolatew it is callled Galaxy it is about 2pound but it id really nive.john


24 Feb 05 - 11:12 AM (#1419644)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: GUEST,Options

Options Simply Cinnamon for me!


24 Feb 05 - 11:39 AM (#1419671)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: sixtieschick

Here are two recipes from Scharffen Berger Chocolate Company using their fabulous products. They are as good as it gets. For Mexican chocolate, try Ibarra brand, available in supermarkets in Southern California, if no where else.

http://www.scharffenberger.com/article_info.php?articles_id=39&template_file=recipes.php

http://www.scharffenberger.com/article_info.php?articles_id=38&template_file=recipes.php

Miriam


24 Feb 05 - 11:53 AM (#1419681)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: Liz the Squeak

There is a wonderful book called 'The Discovery of Chocolate' by James Runcie - published by HarperCollins.

It's fiction but has some wonderful old chocolate recipes in it... including mole (pronounced mol-ey), some great 'meetings' with various chocolate magnates and one Godawful pun that's worth the whole book!

LTS


24 Feb 05 - 12:26 PM (#1419715)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: Bill D

3ΒΌ years, and it goes on as if it were new! I TRULY wish Pene Azul would put in a feature that puts in a big, red note saying
THIS THREAD HAS BEEN REFRESHED

when it is more than, say 6 months old.


24 Feb 05 - 12:29 PM (#1419720)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: Liz the Squeak

That's because chocolate is always worth repeating... (I was going to say bringing up again but decided it wasn't quite the thing...)..

And who says chocolate is BS anyway?!

LTS


24 Feb 05 - 12:47 PM (#1419756)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: Bill D

j0hn, says it, I guess...*grin*....and it is...chocolate is BeautifullySatisfying


24 Feb 05 - 12:55 PM (#1419771)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: Emma B

Recipe from Green and Blacks
put milk, cream and 2 cinnamon sticks into a pan and slowly bring to boil turn off heat and infuse for 10 minutes. Mix cocoa with a splash of milk to form paste, sieve milk mixture and pour and blend with paste. add sugar to taste - alternatively substitute cardamom for cinnamon.
AND - most important - eat with freshly made churros


24 Feb 05 - 01:20 PM (#1419804)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: sixtieschick

LTS, I always enjoy your posts. However, I beg to differ with you about the James Runcie book. It's highly inaccurate, which I suppose is okay on one level if it's fiction. However, I wish the author had done just a tiny bit of homework. He has the characters picking nutmeg and cinnamon, if I remember correctly, in the jungles of Mexico. Those spices aren't indigenous to the region. I also don't love books in which some uptight white man means an exotic woman with dark skin who sets him free emotionally and sexually. It's a sexist and racist fantasy in my book. Even worse, it's hackneyed. Gaugin and Rina the bird girl have that one covered already (although not with each other). Sorry--had to get my two cent's worth of chocolate chips in on this topic!

M.


24 Feb 05 - 05:24 PM (#1420031)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: GUEST,Skipy

Best ever hot chocolate has got to have been approx 4 in the morning @ stanford in the vale folk festival circa 1990 with the remaining members of staff with their feet in a large galvenised bath. With hot water supplied by Johnny Collins who plyed us with Midnight Specials:-
Recipe :- Hot chocolate & Southern Comfort!
Skipy (wrapped around a can of strongbow - in date!).


24 Feb 05 - 05:35 PM (#1420041)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: Liz the Squeak

Yeah, but did you get the pun?

LTS


24 Feb 05 - 05:41 PM (#1420044)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: Liz the Squeak

Some of us have never heard of Rina the bird girl.. I'm intrigued....

Do elucidate please?

LTS


24 Feb 05 - 06:32 PM (#1420102)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: PoppaGator

Must disagree w/ Green and Blacks, in regard to the order in which they assemble ingredients.

Tryng to mix cocoa powder with milk, cream and other stuff, and then later adding "sugar to taste," is a sure recipe for LUMPS. The trick is to mix dry cocoa with sugar first, stirring thoroughly to break down all lumps in the cocoa while it's still dry. The sugar should be granulated, with nice sharp corners on every grain; powdered (confectioner's) sugar won't do the job as well.

Then add, and do, whatever you please.

Slight topic shift: The Mexican "hockey-puck" chocolate that I've seen (complete and pre-mixed solid stuff, to be dissolved in hot milk) is called "Abuelita" brand ~ Espanol for "Grandma's" ~ and the yellow-and-red package has a picture of Grandma right on it. Great stuff!


24 Feb 05 - 07:14 PM (#1420129)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: GUEST,Fuck your chocolate


24 Feb 05 - 07:20 PM (#1420141)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: sixtieschick

To LTS: I made a mistake. The bird girl's name is Rima, from "Green Mansions: A Romance of the Tropical Forest" by W. H. Hudson. It's a classic.

Some editor's comments from amazon.com:

The modern classic tells the compelling story of Rima, a strange birdlike girl of the jungle, and Abel, the European who falls in love with her. The book owes much of its popularity to the mystic, near-religious feeling that pervades the story and the beauty of Rima's halting, poetic expressions. The author's knowledge and understanding of nature, the jungle and grasslands lend special authenticity to this captivating fantasy. A master of natural history writing, W. H. Hudson forms an important link between nineteenth-century Romanticism and the twentieth-century ecological movement. First published in 1904, Green Mansions is a poignant meditation on the loss of wilderness, the dream of a return to nature, and the bitter reality of the encounter between savage and civilized man.

Not a lot to do with chocolate...but there you have it.

Sixtieschick


25 Feb 05 - 03:21 AM (#1420362)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: GUEST,Cluin

Chocolate should either be very hot (with marshmallows) or cold.

I always put my chocolate bars in the fridge first. They taste better cold.


25 Feb 05 - 03:53 AM (#1420369)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: open mike

THIS THREAD HAS BEEN REFRESHING

and i like chocolate mint cocoa...by Stephens or Mrs. Fields'

I usually put a scoop of it in my coffee...

great way to start the day..


25 Feb 05 - 11:36 AM (#1420736)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: GUEST,Peace

Lovely thread.


25 Feb 05 - 12:37 PM (#1420815)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: Peace

Haven't heard from the 'chocolate is better than sex' crew yet. (I always wondered about that--means ya need a better sex life, IMO.) Anyway . . . .


25 Feb 05 - 01:46 PM (#1420876)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: Liz the Squeak

Or else you're just eating the wrong kind of chocolate!

LTS


25 Feb 05 - 02:08 PM (#1420899)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: robomatic

chuaochocolatier.com
They are based in Encinitas, CA.
See if you can order the 'spicy maya'.
This is an approximation of the drink espoused in 'Chocolat'


25 Feb 05 - 11:58 PM (#1421233)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: dianavan

I buy dutch cocoa in bulk. Mix it with equal parts of sugar and then gradually add the hot water. I like it best with marshmallows.

This thread is very informative. I have a friend who is thinking of starting a cocoa shop...raw cocoa beans and assorted cocoa related items. As we toyed with the idea, I said that maybe there wasn't an established cocoa culture yet. Maybe I'm wrong.

Would you like to be able to purchase different kinds of cocoa beans sort of like buying coffee beans from Starbucks? It would also feature a few ethnic items from parts of the world that grow cocoa. Of course mugs would be for sale as well as all kinds of cocoa products.

What do you think?


26 Feb 05 - 04:37 AM (#1421319)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: Liz the Squeak

dianavan - I could bankrupt myself in such a shop!

Want a tester at all?

LTS


26 Feb 05 - 06:58 AM (#1421373)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: GUEST,Keef

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26 Feb 05 - 06:27 PM (#1421822)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: GUEST,*Laura*

How about white hot chocolate? Thats pretty good too.
And cadbury drinking chocolate.
and marshmallows, whipped cream, amoretto, flake, sprinkles - i recently tried very dark hot chocolate with a spoon of vanilla ice-cream in it - mmm mmm mmmmmmmmmmmmm mmmm!
yummy! :-)

xLx


26 Feb 05 - 08:45 PM (#1421928)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: dianavan

Keep the ideas coming!

Certified, organic cocoa beans seem to be selling for about $13.50 U.S.

The thought of freshly roasted, cocoa beans makes my mouth water.

Have you ever tried Mole? Yum! Its amazing how versatile these little beans can be.

So far the concept includes freshly roasted cocoa beans and related products. Of course there would be a bar for cocoa drinks as well. I like the idea but it would be a risk. The woman who wants to start the business is only 22 so she has time on her side. She might fail or she might make it big. I'd like to see her give it a try. It might be too pricey for most folks but if they can sell coffee for outrageous prices, why not cocoa?


27 Feb 05 - 03:12 AM (#1422098)
Subject: RE: Complete BS (Hot Chocolate)
From: Liz the Squeak

As long as none of your products are passed through other animals in the manner of civet or weasel coffee.... like this.... or covering small, dangerous arachnids like these , then we should all be happy!

LTS