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NEWS: plane crash on New York

12 Nov 01 - 09:46 AM (#590756)
Subject: plane crash on New York
From: GUEST,Lyndi-Loo

We're getting reports here of a plane crash on Queens NY. What's happening over there?


12 Nov 01 - 09:49 AM (#590759)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: UB Ed

NEW YORK (AP) - A plane crashed Monday morning in the Queens, New York City, and buildings reportedly were on fire in the neighborhood.
The plane crashed shortly after 9 a.m. and thick, black smoke could be seen in televised reports.
The type of plane and number of people aboard were not immediately known. CNN reported that American Airlines confirmed the plane was an inbound American Airlines Boeing 767. The airline told The Associated Press it had no immediate comment.


12 Nov 01 - 09:52 AM (#590761)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: GUEST,Lyndi-loo (cookieless)

BBC reports that the plane was inbound to Kennedy airport and security has been risen to level 1. All aircraft movements in Ny have been stopped


12 Nov 01 - 09:54 AM (#590762)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: GUEST

Flt 587 A 300 Airbus departing JFK to Dominican Republic


12 Nov 01 - 09:56 AM (#590763)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: Mary in Kentucky

Please keep the reports coming, I have no TV here at work.

This sounds so terribly familiar...


12 Nov 01 - 09:56 AM (#590764)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: catspaw49

Sinsull where are you? I just called and got a recording which is good I think..........

Sinsull lives out that way folks.........

Spaw


12 Nov 01 - 10:08 AM (#590770)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: GUEST,Lyndi-loo

BBc reports that ALL American airports are closed. Plane came down about 5 miles from JFK in the area around 129th St. Queens.


12 Nov 01 - 10:13 AM (#590772)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: GUEST

explosion in right engine,,,246 passengers 9 crew onboard engine fell off and plane crashed..


12 Nov 01 - 10:13 AM (#590774)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: SINSULL

I am fine. The plane came down in the Rockaways at the southern end of Queens. All the airports are closed as are the bridges and tunnels. This may just be a terrible accident but no one is taking any chances.

There is a plane flying overhead - must be the jet fighters patrolling again. Strange times.


12 Nov 01 - 10:18 AM (#590777)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: SharonA

United Nations being evacuated, just in case. Incident being treated as a terrorist incident, but no indications that it in fact was; no warnings beforehand.


12 Nov 01 - 10:20 AM (#590781)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: Jeri

They're saying Logan Airport in Boston is open.

Notes made from news - some may repeat what others have said. Please forgive spelling errors:

The plane was an Airbus A-300
Flight 587, flying from JFK to the Dominican Republic
246 souls on board (includes 9 crew)
The plane crashed 10 miles from Kennedy airport, about 2 minutes after scheduled takeoff, in the Rockaway section of Queens. It crashed at 129th St and Newport in an area known as Bell Harbor
So far, the FBI do not suspect foul play. All NYC tunnels and bridges are closed.


12 Nov 01 - 10:21 AM (#590784)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: SharonA

Plane crash site is a densely populated residential area. Houses and buildings are reported to be on fire.


12 Nov 01 - 10:29 AM (#590789)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: Jeri

CNN is talking to an eyewitness on the phone. She indicates that an engine caught fire, and a wing came off before the plane crashed.


12 Nov 01 - 10:31 AM (#590791)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: SharonA

Reports of pieces falling off plane before impact. Eyewitness says wing was on fire in the air, wing came off and is now reported at 129th St., houses on fire 131st St. to 133rd St. (Newport is one cross street mentioned).


12 Nov 01 - 10:44 AM (#590799)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: InOBU

Hi Sinsul... Good to hear you are OK, yup... planes overhead are military jets, they are now saing it may be an engine problem, something got sucked in, like what happened to concord, may have been birds. Cheers Larry


12 Nov 01 - 10:46 AM (#590801)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: SharonA

No official statement yet from American Airlines.

On-the-scene TV report just showed one person being removed on stretcher. No word yet about casualties or survivors.


12 Nov 01 - 10:51 AM (#590803)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: SharonA

FAA says 255 people on plane in total.


12 Nov 01 - 11:01 AM (#590813)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: catspaw49

Just getting ready to leave here and I'm so happy our NY contingent is OK although we do have others there.

The eyewitness stuff is all over the board and the only thing that seems to be consistent is that something was wrong in the air and from the TV reports it appears an engine has landed apart from the plane.

I'm not looking forward to the ground injury/death reports.

Spaw


12 Nov 01 - 11:02 AM (#590815)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: GUEST

It doesn't look like terrorist activity thank goodness, but what has poor old NYC done to deserve this?


12 Nov 01 - 11:15 AM (#590821)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: SharonA

One eyewitness says tail of plane fell into the bay. Not confirmed.


12 Nov 01 - 11:16 AM (#590823)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: Burke

I can't stop thinking about what it must be like for the rescue workers. Always bad after a plane crash, but it must be some of the same people who were at WTC.

Keep them in you thoughts & prayers.


12 Nov 01 - 11:20 AM (#590824)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: GUEST,Deda

The other horror about this is that since it had just taken off from JFK, had flown only some 5 miles, it was full of fuel, so the fires will keep on burning and burning and burning. An hour or so ago I heard on NPR that some 8-9 houses were on fire.


12 Nov 01 - 11:34 AM (#590830)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: SharonA

Area in which plane crashed is a peninsula about 4 blocks wide. Plane was reported to be on fire in the air. Debris from in-air explosion is widely scattered. A house in the middle of impact area is reported still standing while others around it are levelled. Rescue workers reportedly have not been able to get to houses because of fires.

FBI joining investigation. No reports of "congratulatory" communications overseas (terrorists not heard "high-fiving" each other over this). Little or no radio contact reported from plane before crash.


12 Nov 01 - 11:39 AM (#590834)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: SharonA

Confirmed: no distress call from plane before crash.


12 Nov 01 - 11:42 AM (#590836)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: GUEST

The engine slammed into a Texaco station, says an eyewitness in the story article from the AP.


12 Nov 01 - 11:45 AM (#590840)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: SharonA

Engine is pictured on TV in the parking lot of the gas station (no fire there, thank goodness).


12 Nov 01 - 11:55 AM (#590843)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: Charlie Baum

Geographic note: if you're trying to find the neighborhood into which the plane crashed, it's on the Rockaway Peninsula, which sticks out and separates Jamaica Bay from the Atlantic Ocean. The street numbers refered to in above posts are actually "Beach 129th Street," etc.--a separate numbering system from the street numbering system used elsewhere in Queens.

--Charlie Baum


12 Nov 01 - 11:57 AM (#590845)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: Jerry Rasmussen

My wife and I were ready to head down to Queens to do some shopping and visit family when we got a call from my Brother-in-law. They are fine... they live in another seection of Queens. The tragic thing about all of this (and they believe it was an accident, unrelated to terrorists) is that so many people who live in the Rockaway section of Queens lost loved ones in the 9/11 attack. Mayor Giuliani said that he attended close to 20 funerals in the area which has now been hit by the crashed plane. We just returned from a flight to see my family in Wisconsin, and everything was quiet. We praise the Lord for that. The bridges have already been opened into New York, but I imagine the traffic is a mess.

Jerry Rasmussen


12 Nov 01 - 12:43 PM (#590879)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: nutty

According to the BBC , it looks as though this is just a tragic accident. Very sad after all the area has already been through.


12 Nov 01 - 01:04 PM (#590894)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: Chip2447

CNN is talking about a bird stike in the engine.


12 Nov 01 - 01:10 PM (#590896)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: Noreen

BBC confirm no survivors from the plane.


12 Nov 01 - 01:16 PM (#590899)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: Mrrzy

Eyewitness reports are contradictory, and the engine might have fallen off from plain old stress on the structure when the plane started to go down, says NPR. My new computer here at work has no speakers, so I can't have NPR on in the background any more...


12 Nov 01 - 01:17 PM (#590901)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)

Good to hear from you, Mary, Larry, and Jerry. What a terrible thing for New York! I heard a quote on tv just now that the neighborhood lost 74 souls on Sept. 11- and now this. I'm lighting a candle for all affected by this, and for those on land and sea and highway traveling everywhere.


12 Nov 01 - 01:17 PM (#590902)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: DougR

It's just too early to tell what happend at this point.

DougR


12 Nov 01 - 01:28 PM (#590910)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: SharonA

At least one black box recovered from scene and on the way to DC for analysis. Area is still being treated as possible crime scene (investigators on scene). Major plane parts recovered from Jamaica Bay. Passenger manifest being checked to see if there are "lap children" in addition to 246 passengers and 9 crew.


12 Nov 01 - 02:30 PM (#590953)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: Hillheader

Thoughts and prayers for those who have lost friends and relatives or are awaiting news and also to the New York people in general. They have been through hell over the last two months and must have thought that it was back.

God Bless you all

Davebhoy


12 Nov 01 - 02:44 PM (#590965)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: Charley Noble

There were at least two engine pieces shown on morning CNN in two different locations, one in front of a filling station (which did not start a major fire) and one which landed in a boat parked in a driveway and started a fire which did moderate damage to surrounding structures before it was put out.


12 Nov 01 - 02:55 PM (#590970)
Subject: RE: BS: plane crash on New York
From: SharonA

Rush Limbaugh, on his radio program, is trying (apparently in vain) to dissuade people of the notion that Osama bin Laden crashed this plane in Rockaway in reaction to a statement made by a New York City fireman at a recent benefit concert. The statement was to the effect that this man announced that he lived in Rockaway (which had lost so many civilians and support personnel) and that bin Laden could come and kiss his Irish *ss.

Limbaugh, to his credit (however much or little credit anyone cares to give him), is debunking this idea by pointing out that flight plans for departure from JFK Airport vary with the weather conditions, and that bin Laden couldn't possibly know which way the winds would be blowing today to cause this plane to be flying over Rockaway.