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13 Nov 01 - 06:43 PM (#591964) Subject: Frozen pork chops From: Murray MacLeod I apologize profusely in advance for this thread, I mean this is BS to the "n"th exponent, but .................... My SO is working out of town and has left me some meals in the freezer. What I really feel like tonight is a couple of baked pork chops, which she told me to defrost before using. Well, I forgot to remove them from the freezer compartment this morning so they are still rock hard. My inclination is, the hell with it, heat the oven to 375 and stick them in for forty minutes anyway, maybe fifty since they're frozen hard. My question is, are there likely to be any unwanted side effects later this evening ? Like me dying, for instance? I know it is mandatory to thaw turkey before roasting, but a turkey isn't a pig, is it? Reassurance, please, I hear the temperature bell tinging and I am going to put the chops in now. I WOULD wait until they're thawed, but to paraphrase Homer Simpson, "I'M HUNGRY NOW! " Murray
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13 Nov 01 - 06:52 PM (#591976) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Marymac90 Do you have a microwave? You can thaw them rapidly on its defrost cycle. If it doesn't have one, I would try doing them for 5 mins or so at 30-50% power. You can also thaw them under cool running water in the sink. Probably the worst danger you're dealing with, besides rock-hard or rubbery pork chops, is Trichinosis. This disease of pigs is caused in some humans who eat them by eating the pork when it isn't thoroughly cooked. A meat thermometer might have a mark for the temp that means pork is safe to eat. I think it has to be hotter than poultry or beef--never eat pork "rare"! Marymac |
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13 Nov 01 - 06:54 PM (#591979) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Linda Kelly And on his gravestone were the immortal lines Here lies the remains of poor old Murray Ate his meat in quite a hurry Did not defrost, that sad old fella Met his end with salmonella! |
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13 Nov 01 - 06:59 PM (#591980) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Murray MacLeod Marymac, you've whetted my curiosity what are the symptoms of trichinosis? I am so hungry I am prepared to risk it unless it causes accelerated hair loss. I like that epitaph Linda. I will do one for you after I finish my chops :-> Murray |
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13 Nov 01 - 07:04 PM (#591983) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Murray MacLeod "Here lie the bones of Linda Kelly Brains in her head, fire in her belly She used to be known as Ickle Dorrit But couldn't work up any enthusiasm for it." Thought I would do it now in case I 'm not around later. Murray |
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13 Nov 01 - 07:09 PM (#591987) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Allan C. They would cook more evenly if you were to fry them in a skillet. Chances are that they would be far more moist as well. Try about six to ten minutes per side depending upon the thickness. |
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13 Nov 01 - 07:17 PM (#591996) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Bill D pork chops baked frozen will cook too fast on the outside, in relation to the inside. So, by time the center is done, they may be dry and over cooked on the outside....depending on how thick they are...I suppose it's too late now, but MaryMac's hint to run tepid water over them is good. (and baked chops oughta have 'something' over them..as it happens, I am currently eating baked pork chop that had mustard and pepper & garlic spread on it.) |
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13 Nov 01 - 07:18 PM (#591997) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Jeri Trichinosis From that site, the symptoms: Nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, fatigue, fever, and abdominal discomfort are the first symptoms of trichinosis. Headaches, fevers, chills, cough, eye swelling, aching joints and muscle pains, itchy skin, diarrhea, or constipation follow the first symptoms. If the infection is heavy, patients may experience difficulty coordinating movements, and have heart and breathing problems. In severe cases, death can occur. Pork should be cooked to an internal temperature of 170 deg. F, but it's a real trick to get in internal temperature reading from a pork chop. Defrosting in the microwave is best. You can also stick the pork chops in a plastic bag, and run some warm water over them. You can leave them in the oven a bit longer than you normally would. Trichinosis is pretty rare these days, but it's stil a possibility. Just cook the things - undercooked pork is gross. |
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13 Nov 01 - 07:27 PM (#592003) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Lonesome EJ Have you tried them frozen? Among the Northern Canucks dwelling near the Arctic Circle, where pigs are raised at sub-zero temperatures and cows are fed frozen orange juice in order to be milked for Sherbet, Porkcicles are considered a delicacy. |
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13 Nov 01 - 07:32 PM (#592009) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Allan C. Next time try 'possum. It's the "other" white meat. |
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13 Nov 01 - 07:38 PM (#592013) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: 53 i love pork chops but i like mine cooked. BOB |
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13 Nov 01 - 09:42 PM (#592062) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: GUEST,John Gray / Australia Murray I've been cooking for myself for some years now and I don't have an electric thawing machine - microwave. I'm always forgetting to take the meat out of the freezer before I go to work. No problems, I just cook it frozen, either in a frying pan or in the oven. Pork, lamb, beef, chook ( chicken ), turkey, fish, koala bear etc. The only proviso is, as mentioned by others, is to make sure the product is properly cooked. It all tastes great to me. JG / FME |
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13 Nov 01 - 09:56 PM (#592074) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull John Gray-What does koala bear taste like? & How do you cook it? Cheers.john |
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13 Nov 01 - 10:02 PM (#592078) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Allan C. JfH, my understanding is that you have to peel off all of the warm fuzzy stuff first. |
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13 Nov 01 - 10:15 PM (#592083) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Thanks Alan. |
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13 Nov 01 - 10:16 PM (#592085) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Murray MacLeod Well, they tasted great, and so far no ill effects. I used a product called "Shake m'Bake" (I think that's what it is called I don't have the packet) , it's like golden colored breadcrumbs with spices added it seems to form a coating on the meat and seal the moisture in, so the chops don't dry out. Murray |
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13 Nov 01 - 10:22 PM (#592090) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: heric I wouldn't feel perfectly safe about cooking frozen pork (and I don't think it freezes well for taste purposes, either), but, if it is safe, the George Foreman is really the ticket. Frozen swordfish steaks: six minutes. Frozen chicken breasts: nine minutes. |
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13 Nov 01 - 10:45 PM (#592105) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: catspaw49 AS the chief cook and bottlewasher around here, Murray, may I say you are completely pathetic! What a riot!!! Was any of the meat pink after it was cooked? And BTW, if you did happen to undercook it and it was pork infected with trichinosis, it's unlikely you will notice for some time yet. Since you probably didn't read Jeri's link, let me also post this: "Abdominal symptoms can occur 1-2 days after infection. Further symptoms usually start 2-8 weeks after eating contaminated meat. Symptoms may range from very mild to severe and relate to the number of infectious worms consumed in meat. Often, mild cases of trichinosis are never specifically diagnosed and are assumed to be the flu or other common illnesses." AND THIS WILL INTEREST YOU TOO!!! If you croak, at least you'll be in good company..........
Pork Cutlets May Have Killed MozartBy LINDSEY TANNER-- The Associated Press CHICAGO (AP) -- Forget rheumatic fever, kidney stones, heart disease, pneumonia and even poisoning. What really killed Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart 210 years ago could have been pork cutlets. The latest theory about Mozart's untimely death on Dec. 5, 1791 at age 35 in Vienna suggests the culprit was likely trichinosis. The worm infestation is usually caused by eating undercooked pork, and could explain all of Mozart's symptoms, which included fever, rash, limb pain and swelling, says Dr. Jan. V. Hirschmann of Puget Sound Veterans Affairs Medical Center in Seattle. Hirschmann offers as damning evidence an innocuous little letter Mozart wrote to his wife 44 days before his illness began, as documented in a 1999 biography. "What do I smell?... pork cutlets! Che Gusto (What a delicious taste). I eat to your health," the composer is quoted as writing. "If his final illness was indeed trichinosis, whose incubation period is up to 50 days, Mozart may have unwittingly disclosed the precise cause of his death -- those very pork chops," Hirschmann said. His eight-page report based on a probe of medical literature, historical documents and Mozart biographies is published in the June 11 issue of Archives of Internal Medicine (http://archinte.ama-assn.org). Mozart died 15 days after he became ill. His doctors offered only a vague cause of death -- "severe miliary fever" -- and no autopsy was performed. His wife, Constanze, reportedly said after his death that Mozart thought he was being poisoned, and rumours circulated that his enemies, including rival composer Antonio Salieri, may have done him in. Since then, medical theorists have largely discounted foul play and Hirschmann, an infectious disease specialist, said there's no evidence to suggest Mozart had symptoms of acute poisoning. His symptoms did match those of an unspecified epidemic disease going around Vienna at the time, Hirshmann said. Trichinosis wasn't identified until the 1800s, when there were several deadly outbreaks in Europe. Drugs since have been developed that can kill the worms and treat the symptoms, and fatal cases now are rare. Hirschmann noted that complications of trichinosis can include pneumonia and heart problems -- culprits listed in other Mozart theories, which Hirschmann says don't adequately explain all the features of Mozart's illness. Dr. Faith Fitzgerald, a University of California-Davis professor of medicine whose rheumatic fever theory was front-page news last year, isn't offended that Hirschmann has come up with a different explanation for Mozart's death. Hirshmann's almost certainly won't be the last, Fitzgerald said. "There have been 150 separate diagnoses proposed, and now there's another one," she said. "It does strike me as somewhat strange the investment people have in something that is virtually unknowable." Mozart's grave was dug up about seven years after his death so it could be reused, and his remains were dispersed. Hirschmann acknowledged that not being able to be proved wrong "makes it much more enjoyable to speculate." Doctors like to review the master's death "because "it's fun and because it's Mozart," Fitzgerald said. "I personally think that he died because they needed a new choirmaster in heaven." Spaw
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13 Nov 01 - 11:10 PM (#592132) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Murray MacLeod Mmmm food for thought here ............ I make no apology for not being a cook, throughout my life I have always had a woman do this for me. My father couldn't cook either. But I have to admit I am secretly envious of men who CAN cook. Nevertheless, addressing the trichonosis issue, I say "Pshaw" with a toss of my wrist. As I have repeated on the Forum ad nauseam, I am a statistician by inclination, and I would guess that the chances of getting trichonosis from pork chops are roughly the same as winning the lottery. (Which, btw has a $24,000,000 jackpot up for grabs in Florida tomorrow ) So, Mozart notwithstanding, I face the next fifty days with the calm and fortitude for which the Scots are famous, and if I do indeed succumb fatally to trichonosis, I will have the consolation of knowing that it couldn't have happened to a nicer person. Murray |
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13 Nov 01 - 11:12 PM (#592135) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: catspaw49 Yeah Murray, you're right. You'll probably get anthrax before the trichinosis develops. Spaw |
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13 Nov 01 - 11:28 PM (#592152) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Murray MacLeod Precautions already taken there , Spaw. I no longer open any mail that has "FiNAL DEMAND" printed on the envelope. Murray |
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13 Nov 01 - 11:38 PM (#592158) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Sorcha Murraydear, "to cook" is not a gender specific verb. If all else fails, melt some butter, add chopped garlic and "meat". Cook until done. Veg and onion optional. Get a cookbook and just follow the instructions.
Hint--"to launder" is not a Gender specific verb either. Neither is "to clean." Just why would you need a "woman" to do for you?????
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13 Nov 01 - 11:42 PM (#592161) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: catspaw49 That's wise Murray. But what am I going to do with this floral arrangement we all chipped in for? It's really nice and the ribbon has gold letters and all saying, MURRAY--Dead As A Stick Cause His Chops Were A Brick Maybe you could fly somewhere huh? Spaw |
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13 Nov 01 - 11:46 PM (#592166) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: catspaw49 True Sorch my dear, quite true. "Househusband" on the other hand IS gender specific. Karen's Househusband |
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13 Nov 01 - 11:47 PM (#592167) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Murray MacLeod Sorcha my dear I am not suggesting for one minute that any of these activities ARE gender-specific, I was just observing that the circumstances of my life to date have been such that I have not been required to acquire these skills. I have always lived with a woman who would do these things for me. Heaven forfend I should advocate that is the way things SHOULD be, but that is the way things HAVE been for me. At least up until now. Not to worry, she will be back at the weekend. Murray
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13 Nov 01 - 11:51 PM (#592171) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Murray MacLeod Spaw, the floral arrangement is SUCH a nice thought. But I am not so sure about the epitaph................ Murray |
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14 Nov 01 - 12:09 AM (#592185) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: CarolC Back in the eary 1970s, on his radio show, Jean Shepherd told a story he read about in the news of a woman who bludgeoned someone to death (her husband maybe?) with a frozen pork chop. Then she thawed it out and cooked it, and served it to the police when they came to investigate. See? Frozen pork chops can kill you. |
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14 Nov 01 - 12:16 AM (#592192) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Carol C-That incident happeneed in the UK, it was not a pork chop, it was a leg of lamb that the women used to kill her husband. |
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14 Nov 01 - 12:20 AM (#592194) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: CarolC Sounds like a hell of a way to go either way. Made an interesting story though. |
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14 Nov 01 - 12:32 AM (#592200) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull I belive she was convicted anyway but her reasoning was that, if they ate the meat then, no weapon =no charges.She was mistaken! |
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14 Nov 01 - 12:36 AM (#592201) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: catspaw49 Well carol and John, I don't know if it ever happened, but it was the plotline of an Alfred Hitchcok TV show back in the 50's......used the leg of lamb. Spaw |
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14 Nov 01 - 12:45 AM (#592204) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull Spaw it did happen, it was also the basis for a Roald Dahl story.Apparently the couple had been arguing about the cooking, the woman fed up with his arguing, bashed him on the head with the nearest thing to hand (a frozen leg of lamb) and killed him.A Google search on "Woman kills husband with frozen meat" or similar might find a newspaper article about the case. |
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14 Nov 01 - 04:00 AM (#592252) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: catspaw49 I noticed Murray was still up at 3:15 AM or so and that's a bit odd for him I think. Maybe these chops are backing up on him. Spaw |
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14 Nov 01 - 04:09 AM (#592255) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Peter Kasin The Mozart pork cutlet theory sounds plausible, Spaw. It probably inspired him to write the Hoofner Symphony, his string porktets, the operas The Abduction From The Styaglio and The Magic Snout, and his famed Eine Kleine Hogmusick. chanteyranger |
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14 Nov 01 - 04:13 AM (#592258) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Peter Kasin ...and how could I forget The Marriage Of Pigaro. |
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14 Nov 01 - 04:18 AM (#592259) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: catspaw49 Geeziz..........Now I'M getting sick............. Spaw |
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14 Nov 01 - 04:27 AM (#592266) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Linda Kelly er.... are you dead yet Murray? |
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14 Nov 01 - 04:39 AM (#592268) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Peter Kasin I think he's got Chicken noses. That's the illness, right? |
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14 Nov 01 - 05:58 AM (#592294) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Murray MacLeod Glad to report no ill effects, and am ready for another day's work. Being up late was a consequence of not being used to sleeping on my own. I have already taken tonight's beef out of the freezer, however, I don't want to push my luck. Murray |
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14 Nov 01 - 06:10 AM (#592300) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler BS? Of course it's music: "His polony is the tops How that boy can warm my chops I can't live without my kitchen man" (Kitchen man as performed by Bessie or Ma or Victoria [Spivey, not Beckham] and of course George Melly) RtS ("love the way he opens clams") |
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14 Nov 01 - 06:11 AM (#592303) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: JohnInKansas Consensus around my neighborhood is that there is little danger of trichinosis from domestic pork, since enforcements of regulations against feeding uncooked slop to the hawgs. Since some folk do slop their hawgs with whatever's leftover from the kitchen, cautious people do try to be sure their pork is well done. Most recent cases I've heard of have been from people trying to make "jerky" out of bear meat - and the occasional under-roasted possum. (sorry Cleigh!). Any meat that eats meat can transmit it. Chickens, in fact, have the double hazard of trich and salmonela. And crow should definitely be well cooked before eating. Scavangers all. John |
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14 Nov 01 - 07:03 AM (#592311) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: GUEST,John Gray / Australia John from Hull. Lemme see now - how to cook KayBees ( Koala Bears ). I've got a recipe around here somewhere - but the best way is au natural. We just wait for a bushfire to go through, this takes about 5-7 minutes in a eucalyptus forest depending on the TPH ( trees per hectare )and the amount of PTSW (petrol to start with ). As you know the KB's reside in these forests and, as luck, or nature, would have it, the heat generated in the 5-7 minute inferno is just enough to thoroughly barbeque a KB sitting in the fork of a tree. Then its just a matter of chucking a few yonnies ( stones ) at the dead KB until you knock it out of the tree. Just about all the burnt fur comes off when it hits the ground. If you get there early enough they're still warm and juicy. Its a real bastard though if you get one with a snap-fried baby clinging to the mother's back. With the extra density of flesh and fur it stops the heat getting to the back of mum KB and it leaves a raw spot. Probably a monty for trichinosis. Generally we go for the kidneys and liver first, just great with a bottle of rough Cab-Sav or, funnily enough, that great lager from the Phillipines, San Miguel. The eucalypt flavour infused flesh is succulent, you could never duplicate it in a kitchen environment. The more traditional cuts are taken home for the wives - we tell them its rabbit, otherwise they wouldn't touch it. They reckon they taste marvellous, cold, with a young Chardonnay. There's not enough meat on the baby KB's to get your teeth into so we feed them to the Bunyips. JG, lickin'his lips, FME. |
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14 Nov 01 - 07:48 AM (#592316) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Matthew Edwards Hows the tricky noses now Murray? Regarding the incident of the woman who killed her husband with a frozen pork chop; does anyone know what she was charged with? Murder in the third degree below zero perhaps? Reminds me of a James Thurber story: First Man: (enters wearing bandage round his head) Second Man: Goodness me! Whatever happened to you? First Man: My wife hit me with some tomatoes. Second Man: But how could tomatoes hurt you like that? First Man: They were in a can. (Collapse of stout party etc. etc.) As it happens, as a single man I have had to acquire skills in such things as "cooking", "laundering", and "cleaning", and on occasion I do actually exercise these skills. (Why only last night I cooked a meal with some brussel sprouts - they tasted good at the time, and tasted good again an hour later, and were still tasting good at regular intervals thereafter...) However I am very intrigued by this concept of a "woman" to do all these tasks for me. How do I get hold of one of these? Are they good for anything else as well? |
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14 Nov 01 - 12:29 PM (#592490) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Noreen (LOL chanteyranger!) Hey Murray, how about surprising your beloved by having a meal ready for her on her return home? One that you cooked yourself?? All the expertise and support is available here if you should accept this challenge... (I can picture her face!) Noreen |
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14 Nov 01 - 12:50 PM (#592502) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Bill D ooohhh...home cooked meal by cyber-committee! scary to consider! "Baked Possum alá Koala with chocolate sauce" ....and other delicacies |
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14 Nov 01 - 12:55 PM (#592510) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: MMario for thos scared of trichinosis - freezing the meat reduces the probability by something like 90% for every 10 days frozen. |
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14 Nov 01 - 02:15 PM (#592580) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: DougR JG: what the heck is a bunyip? DougR |
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14 Nov 01 - 02:21 PM (#592585) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Hollowfox John Gray/Australia, you're a sick puppy, but you're good at it. *g* Keep up the good work. |
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14 Nov 01 - 02:28 PM (#592588) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: catspaw49 He is that 'Fox!!! But I was wondering.............Does eating koala help clear your sinuses? Spaw |
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14 Nov 01 - 05:58 PM (#592770) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Murray MacLeod Noreen, I thank you for your offer of help, but the idea of me cooking a meal for both of us is just too bizarre. I do take her out to restaurants frequently, and have been known to buy what in Britain would be called a "takeaway" on occasion, so I do my bit. As I said earlier , I AM slightly envious of men who do know their way around food and cooking, but I have left it far too late to acquire those skills myself. Murray |
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14 Nov 01 - 06:37 PM (#592788) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Better restaurants now serve pork slightly pink on the inside. Trichinosis is no longer a consideration. Slowly cook in broth in a covered pan; that should do it without drying them out too much. Try pork with apples. Cut up apples (cored and peeled) and slightly cook in a saucepan with a little water, sugar and cinnamon. Brown the chops (or loin cuts, etc.) in a (very) little oil in a thick-bottomed pan, then add the cooked apples and cook till almost white (or still a little pink in the center), but no longer as they will harden up. Oh, yes, the pork should have been thawed beforehand. We often buy fresh pork tenderloin when the price is right, package in meal-sized portions, and freeze. |
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14 Nov 01 - 06:46 PM (#592795) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: catspaw49 Dicho, I have always tended towards apples with pork, but a few years ago it struck me that there was another "Fall" kind of flavor that fit with both. Try this recipe which for me is the ultimate way to eat pork roast! Spaw's Black Walnut Pork Roast You can use any pork roast you like, but a nice tenderloin is hard to beat. Make up the following "goo" 1 Cup chopped black walnuts 1/4 cup chopped onion 1 Cup Chopped Apples 1/2 Cup Raisins 1 Cup Apple Butter Dash of GROUND Nutmeg, Allspice, Clove. 1 teaspoon salt Slice the roast lengthwise to create TWO long pockets and pack them full of the "goo." Tie it up as best possible and then cover the entire roast in the remainder of the goo. Use an appropriate pan, add about a 1/2 cup of water, and cover it with foil. Bake at 375 at 30 minutes per pound. Cool slightly then slice and serve. The residue in the pan and the cutting board scrap can be additionally moistened as necessary and poured over each piece Black Walnuts, Apples, and Pork were made for each other. A side of sweet potatoes, or acorn or buternut squash, and you'll be thinking you're dining at the Pearly Gates! Sheer Heaven! Spaw
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14 Nov 01 - 06:51 PM (#592798) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Gareth On the other hand Murray, if you had any suspicions about those them Pork chops, you could have asked Ben Ladin round to share them. Personally I prefer my pork slow cooked in cider ( applejack) Gareth |
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14 Nov 01 - 07:27 PM (#592826) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Noreen I've printed that out, Spaw- yum. With roast potatoes too! |
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14 Nov 01 - 07:28 PM (#592829) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: GUEST,Linda Kelly Pork is wonderful served with a pepper sauce or on a base of ratatouille. Matthew Edwards -women are only good for housework and cooking-they have no other uses-steer well clear! |
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14 Nov 01 - 07:48 PM (#592839) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: MMario chops baked with apple, onion and saurkraut...yummie |
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14 Nov 01 - 07:52 PM (#592843) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: Dicho (Frank Staplin) Spaw, have copied your receipt and will try. Here in the western Canada prairies, we can only grow crabapples from which we make excellent apple butter (western Canadians don't know what that is; it is not sold in the stores) but most people here just use the trees as ornamentals and let the fruit rot. Gareth, the only cider available here is pasturized piss that is also very expensive. There is nothing better than fermenting cider for what ails you. |
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15 Nov 01 - 01:05 AM (#593002) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: GUEST,John Gray / Australia DougR. A Bunyip is an imaginary creature of Aboriginal dreamtime legend, said to haunt swamps and billabongs. Although I've never met him it seems as though our American friends have one of their own 'cept they call theirs Spaw. It was the only thing I could think of, to end my ramblings, that would give the overly serious folk a clue that it was all in my imagination. Now, a spit-roasted Bunyip, that's another thing ----------- JG / FME. |
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15 Nov 01 - 02:34 AM (#593029) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: GUEST,BigDaddy Has Spaw ever been spit-roasted? Perhaps he'd like to tell us about it... |
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16 Jan 02 - 01:02 AM (#628830) Subject: RE: BS: Frozen pork chops From: GUEST . |