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02 Dec 01 - 03:59 PM (#602263) Subject: Say, Darlin', Say From: GUEST,Wally Macnow A friend of mine is looking for background info on a couple of old time songs. One is "Say, Darlin', Say" and the other is "Hop High My Lulu Girl". I've checked the folk music index at the Johns Hopkins website and found that Hop High has only been recorded once, by Dirk Powell, and the earliest recording of "Say, Darlin', Say" was performed by The Stoneman Family and released on Folkways in 1957. A websearch hasn't yielded anything else. Anybody know anything about them? Wally |
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03 Dec 01 - 12:21 PM (#602736) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: JenEllen *refresh* Still looking. Do you have any other information? ~J |
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03 Dec 01 - 12:31 PM (#602747) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: nutty Hi Wally ...... I'm not sure what kind of info you need but putting "say, darlin', say" into GOOGLE brough up over 20 hits. Didn't get anything on the HIP HOP song |
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03 Dec 01 - 12:33 PM (#602748) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: Fortunato Hey, Wally, this Chance. I have Darlin' Say on a Redclay Ramblers Album: RAMBLER : Sugar Hill; ASIN: B000000F24 (1992) I think it's their arrangement of the traditional song. I'll check for background info but I think they just cite Pop Stoneman. Rafe Stefani recorded it with the Wildcats, I'll try to email him. Happy Holidays, Wally. |
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03 Dec 01 - 01:10 PM (#602767) Subject: Hop High, My Lulu Gal From: Joe Offer Hi, Wally - if you need help resetting your Mudcat cookie, post a message in the Help Forum. I found a recording of Hop High, My Lulu Gal (click) on a Rounder album called Hand Me Down, by Dirk Powell. Might you be able to post lyrics for these songs? -Joe Offer- |
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03 Dec 01 - 02:11 PM (#602819) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: GUEST,Dale I have the Stoneman recording of Say, Darling, Say, and one by the Sweet Brothers (a group related to Ernest Stoneman) but finding them and getting around to transcribing them is another matter. I will depend on Joe to remind me if I don't get around to it in a week or so. Naturally, if anyone else has it, go right ahead! Oh, and it is on the Yazoo collection of The Story That The Crow Told Me, vol. 1, by the Virgina Mountain Boomers. Speaking of Joe, I expect he will be running to his collection to look for that one. |
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03 Dec 01 - 02:42 PM (#602846) Subject: Lyr Add: SAY DARLING SAY (Virginia Mtn Boomers) From: Joe Offer Now, there has to be a lesson here. Note that Dale in Arkansas has a better knowledge of Joe's CD collection than Joe has himself. Could it be that Joe's faculties are fading? -Joe- SAY DARLING SAY Oh little darling if you were mine, you wouldn't do nothing but starch and iron Say darling say Starch and iron would be your trade, and I'd get drunk and lie in the shade Say darling say Hush up darling, don't say a word, I'm gonna buy you a mocking bird Mocking bird, if it don't sing, I'm gonna buy you a diamond ring Diamond ring, if it turns to brass, I'm gonna buy you a looking glass Looking glass, if it gets broke, I'm gonna buy you a billy goat Transcribed from a 78 rpm recording by the Virginia Mountain Boomers on the Yazoo CD, The Story That the Crow Told Me, Vol. 1 |
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03 Dec 01 - 02:59 PM (#602859) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: lamarca Hi, Wally - have you tried asking Dick Spottswood? He's still doing his show for WAMU, now on Sundays from 1-3. His radio station e-mail is dick@wamu.org. Since Bruce Molsky recorded it recently, maybe he has some info (although I bet he learned it from the Stonemans...) His website is here with an e-mail link. Hope you and Berta are well! |
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03 Dec 01 - 09:04 PM (#603073) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: GUEST,Wally Macnow Joe, is there a date of the 78 recording on that tract by the Virginia Mountain Boomers? My guess is that it's earlier than the Stonemans. Mary, I've dropped notes to both Dick and Bruce. Thanks for the links. Hope you and that guy you share quarters with are both OK. Say hello to folks for me. W |
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03 Dec 01 - 09:32 PM (#603091) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: Stewie Wally, It is the same recording. Virginia Mountain Boomers was a pseudonym for Ernest Stoneman and the Sweet Brothers on Gennett and Supertone. The recording, GE14017A, was made in Indiana on 9 July 1928. Ernest 'Pop' Stoneman recorded it subsequently for Folkways ca 1956-57. Elizabeth Lomax made an unissued recording of it by George Stoneman for the Library of Congress in 1941. --Stewie. |
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03 Dec 01 - 11:40 PM (#603167) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: GUEST,Dale I figured that, Stewie. When I listened to the internet clip it sounded exactly like him, and said as much to Joe. I was not aware of that particular pseudonym, though I knew of the Sweet Brothers connection. Thanks for the confirmation. |
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03 Dec 01 - 11:51 PM (#603171) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: Joe Offer That's one thing about the Yazoo recordings - the documentation is a little light. I'm glad Stewie was able to come up with the information, because I couldn't find it on the Yazoo CD. -Joe Offer- |
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04 Dec 01 - 02:02 AM (#603203) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: Stewie Hi Dale and Joe, My info was from Ivan M. Tribe 'The Stonemans' Uni of Illinois Press and Kip Lornell 'Virginia's Blues, Country & Gospel Records 1902-1943' Uni Press of Kentucky. I agree that a shortcoming of the wonderful Yazoo 2000 series is its lack of discographical information, and County's reissues, unfortunately, are also none too flash in that regard. However, I read somewhere recently that Tony Russell's long-awaited (10 years?) country music discography is with the publisher - we can but live in hope. --Stewie. |
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04 Dec 01 - 12:36 PM (#603448) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: GUEST,Wally Macnow Thank you, one and all. W |
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11 Apr 05 - 11:13 PM (#1458639) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: harpgirl dale, any chance you could send me an mp3 of the stoneman version? Guess I'm not gonna drive all the way to MV this year yet. So have fun! |
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12 Apr 05 - 12:11 AM (#1458657) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: Stewie In his above reference to 'Hop High My Lulu Gal' on Dirk Powell's 'Hand Me Down', Joe omitted to mention the album also contains a wonderful rendition of 'Say Darling Say'. I picked up a copy of this album in a CD sale only a couple of weeks ago and it is first-rate. Powell's banjo accompaniment on 'Say Darling Say' is delightful, with Jim Miller on vocal. Powell's 'Hop High', again with Miller on vocal, has been reissued on the very recent Rounder compilation 'Come to the mountain: old-time music for modern times'. --Stewie. |
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12 Apr 05 - 08:00 AM (#1458906) Subject: RE: Help: Say, Darlin', Say From: GLoux The liner notes to Dirk's recording of 'Hop High My Lulu Gal' say that it is known to come from Fred Cockerham. I don't have a recording of Fred doing it, though... -Greg |
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07 Jul 11 - 04:23 PM (#3183346) Subject: RE: Origins: Say, Darlin', Say From: GUEST,peter beck In re: "Hop High My Lulu Gal," the song is also (better) known as "Roustabout." Bright moments-- Peter Beck |
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07 Jul 11 - 10:11 PM (#3183506) Subject: RE: Origins: Say, Darlin', Say From: GUEST http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=1671#6057 - A Spanish Cavalier:
Oh, say, darling, say, when I am far away, Sometimes you may think of me, dear; Bright sunny days will soon fade away. Remember what I say and be true, dear. |
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24 Mar 12 - 11:45 PM (#3328460) Subject: Lyr Req: harpy nds wrds: 'Stay darlin' stay' From: GUEST,hg I'm not sure if this is the correct title but I'm missing some words in it. Can anyone help? "S(t)ay little darlin won't you marry me Livin in the holler neath the old tree.. |
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24 Mar 12 - 11:46 PM (#3328461) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: harpy nds wrds: 'Stay darlin' stay' From: GUEST,me, again found it! nevermind...Sheila Kay Adams!!! |
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24 Mar 12 - 11:49 PM (#3328464) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: harpy nds wrds: 'Stay darlin' stay' From: GUEST,hg " you wouldn't do nothin but starch and iron starch and iron would be your trade and I'l get drunk and lay in the shade... no wonder I blocked on this....LOL |
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24 Mar 12 - 11:52 PM (#3328467) Subject: RE: Origins: Say, Darlin', Say From: GUEST,hg uptop |