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Tune Req: Blackwaterside (Bert Jansch)

13 Dec 01 - 04:45 AM (#608848)
Subject: Bert Jansch's Blackwater side?
From: GUEST,Tony


13 Dec 01 - 04:48 AM (#608849)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Bert Jansch's Blackwater side?
From: GUEST,Tony

Sorry, accidently posted it without anthing in :) Anyway, i was wondering if anynone had a tab of Jansch's Blackwater side. I've been looking for one for some time, and the only lead ive got on how to play it, was about 5 secnds of video of him playing it. Any help would be much appreciated.


13 Dec 01 - 05:34 AM (#608863)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Bert Jansch's Blackwater side?
From: Malcolm Douglas

You want  Fingerstyle Guitar.  It's in the Bert Jansch section.


13 Dec 01 - 09:28 AM (#608937)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Bert Jansch's Blackwater side?
From: nutty

If you want chords - these are what I have from a song book ........

BLACKWATERSIDE

One (C) morning fair as I took the (Dm) air
Down (F) by Black -water-(C)-side
'Twas in (Am) gazing all (Dm)around (G)me
Twas the (F6) Irish lad I (C)spied


13 Dec 01 - 01:29 PM (#609088)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Bert Jansch's Blackwater side?
From: GUEST,Tony

Aha thanks very much.


13 Dec 01 - 02:04 PM (#609110)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Bert Jansch's Blackwater side?
From: Mrrzy

Brought on with your want and will... I thought it was Wanton will? Are these lyrics at the blicky by the original writer, or someone who posted the lyrics and guitar instructions, with apologies for being an ignoramus?


13 Dec 01 - 06:08 PM (#609280)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Bert Jansch's Blackwater side?
From: Arbuthnot

Bert played the tune originally in DGDGBE , ie dropped D tuning. I learned it twenty years ago, then found I couldn't sing it without using a capo on the on the seventh fret. I think Bert may have tuned all the strings down a tone to sing it easily. A tab was published in Guitar magazine in the 70s. It's not very hard or I couldn't have done it!


13 Dec 01 - 07:17 PM (#609322)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Bert Jansch's Blackwater side?
From: Malcolm Douglas

The lyrics given at that site are indeed gibberish, and, not being a guitar player, I have no idea whether the (quite separate) tab file is accurate or not.  I simply answer the question asked, in this case, and leave it to Tony to decide whether or not it suits his needs.


24 Sep 18 - 01:27 AM (#3952399)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Blackwaterside (Bert Jansch)
From: GUEST,gecko

Bit of thread creep here....Polly Bolton, an English folk singer, does a brilliant version of Blackwaterside on Bert Jansch's Compendium. Not to everyone's taste as it's a bit of a walk on the wild side, but I love her voice and arrangement.
YIU
gecko


02 Jan 22 - 09:03 PM (#4130806)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Blackwaterside (Bert Jansch)
From: Taconicus

Whoops! I think I just posted this in the wrong "Blackwaterside" thread. (Editors, please delete the other one—or whichever one is in the wrong place—if you like.) Well, here it is:
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Here's how I sing this song. It's a beautiful song but I found it unsatisfying not only because it exhibited a cruel misogyny with no repercussions, but also because it lacked a satisfying ending (or any ending, really). So I finished the song on my own. It's rather maudlin, but then so many of that era are.

I've read that it's thought the song originated in Northern Ireland, but after considerable research I've decided to place it at the River Blackwater in Mallow, County Cork. There was a famous "Ten Arch Bridge" there, but I believe it was bombed and destroyed during the Irish Rebellion.
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Blackwater Side
Traditional; arrangement and additional lyrics © 2019 by Eric M. Bram

G                               C                  D
One morning fair as I chanced the air
          Em         F       G
Down by Blackwater side.
          C         G    C       G
It was gazing all around me
             C      Em   G
That an Irish girl I spied.

All in the fore part of the night
We rolled in sport and play
Till this young man arose and he put on his clothes
Saying, "Fare thee well today."

That's not the promise that you made to me
As you lay upon my breast.
You could've made me believe with your lying tongue
That the sun rose in the west.

Go home, go home to your father's garden.
Go home and cry your fill.
And think of the sad misfortune
You brought on with your wanton will.

        
There's not a flower in this whole wide world
More easily plucked than thee.
And when fishes can fly and seas do run dry
That's when you'll marry me.

She turned, she turned, and she slow walked away
Along Blackwater side.
And I called out "good day" and I went on my way.
And I could hear how she softly cried.

I went to the tavern, and I there drank my fill
Till I heard the news from the town.
That a young woman had jumped from the Ten Arch Bridge
And in the cold Blackwater had drowned.

Now there's not a man in this whole green land
More deservedly damned than I.
For she loved me the best and I drove her to her death.
And I'll know it until I die.

Coda/Outro:   Em   C   G


03 Jan 22 - 01:43 PM (#4130869)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Blackwaterside (Bert Jansch)
From: Helen

Thanks Eric.

In real life though, I wonder whether the young man in your version would really have thought much about the effects of his actions given his callous disregard for the woman.

One of my favourite tunes on The Pogues' albums is The Limerick Rake. I really love the tune but I don't like the lyrics of the song, for similar reasons to your explanation for adding the extra lyrics to Blackwater Side.


04 Jan 22 - 10:50 AM (#4130961)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: Blackwaterside (Bert Jansch)
From: GUEST,James Phillips

Re: a tab for Blackwaterside. I tabbed this around 2003 or so and uploaded it to Usenet from where I guess it ended up on most of the tab sites. The tab was fairly decent (and you'll probably find it everywhere if you Google), but as part of the team who worked on the official book of Bert Jansch transcriptions a few years ago, we revisited the piece and a much better tab resulted - rare videos of Bert playing it had become available since I first tabbed it, enabling us to see that he fingered a few things differently. The book is called "The Bert Jansch Songbook," is very well tabulated and notated and is available on Amazon.