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Lyr Req: help with this song please - Palace Grand

21 Dec 01 - 07:47 PM (#614453)
Subject: help with this song please
From: GUEST,barry

I always thought the name of this song was Palace Grand. But I have searched everywhere for it under that name and have come up empty handed.
Here is the first verse,any help would be very much appreciated.

I sat midst a mighty throng within a palace Grand
In a city far beyond the sea in a distant foreign land
I listened to a lovely refrain my ears had ever heard
Enraptured charms amazed I stood for my inmost soul stirred.

Many thanks
barry.


21 Dec 01 - 08:18 PM (#614470)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: help with this song please
From: Jeri

Barry asked for the lyrics in Jun 00 in this thread, and no one could help him. It's not Lady Mary.

Barry, I wish I could help. It looks like a poem that has been set to music. but I'm just guessing.


21 Dec 01 - 08:40 PM (#614479)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: help with this song please
From: Noreen

But on that earlier thread, Jeri, the 'Shop' picks up 'Palace Grand' and links to the following recording:

Title:BALLAD OF THE BOONSLICK
Artist: Cathy Barton, Dave Para

Which includes Palace Grand in the track list.

Is that any help, Barry? I don't know the song myself.

Noreen


21 Dec 01 - 08:57 PM (#614493)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: help with this song please - Palace Grand
From: Deckman

I may know it Barry ... let's have some more verses. Bob


21 Dec 01 - 09:01 PM (#614495)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: help with this song please - Palace Grand
From: Jeri

That's the "Lady Mary" one, Noreen. I can't find anything with search engines. Sounds sort of Kubla Khan-ish. Has this one stumped Mudcat?


21 Dec 01 - 11:23 PM (#614573)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: help with this song please - Palace Grand
From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca

Barry, do you know of the name of the singer, when it was, or any more about the song. We seem to be coming up blank.


22 Dec 01 - 12:02 PM (#614790)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: help with this song please - Palace Grand
From: GUEST,barry

Many Thanks,Jeri,Noreen,Deckman,George.
Jeri,not sure about Kubla Khan-ish??
George I do not know the singer,but It Is definatly a song I have heard sung many years ago.

Deckman, here is the only other verse I can remember.

I looked at the singer fair,for never had I heard
A song to thrill me ore and ore within my fond heart stirred
But then she sang a song that made the tear drops start
She sang a song of home,a song that reached my heart.

George this verse may have a few lines mixed in from other verses, but there you go.

many thanks again
barry.


22 Dec 01 - 10:14 PM (#615105)
Subject: ADD: Castle Grand (Palace Grand)
From: Deckman

Hi Barry ... sorry it's taken so long to get back to you. This might be the song you are looking for. I always have called it "Castle Grand." I hope it's what you want.

Castle Grand (Palace Grand)


He came from his castle grand
And he came to my cottage door
His words were few, but his looks
Will linger forever more

The smile in his sad dark eyes
More tender than words could be
But I was nothing to him
Though he was the world to me

While there in his garden strolled
All robed in satins and lace
A lady so strange and cold
Who held in his heart, no place

For I would be his bride
With a kiss for a lifetime fee
But I was nothing to he
Though he was the world to me

Today in his castle grand
On a flower strewn bier he lies
The beautiful lids fast closed
On his beautiful sad, dark eyes.

Among the mourners who mourn
Why should I, a mourner be
For I was nothing to he
Though he was the world to me

And how will it be with our souls
When we meet in that spirit land
What the mortal heart ne'er knows
Will the spirit then understand

Or in some celestial form
Will our sorrows repeated be
Will I still be nothing to he
Though he is the world to me

I wish I could give proper credits, but all I know of this song is that I learned it from the beautiful Patti, of Seattle and Santa Cruz fame. I hope this helps to give you alead. CHEERS, Bob


22 Dec 01 - 10:33 PM (#615121)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: help with this song please - Palace Grand
From: Malcolm Douglas

I suggested that in the original thread (see Jeri's link above).  It wasn't the one then, either.


23 Dec 01 - 12:11 AM (#615169)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: help with this song please - Palace Grand
From: Deckman

Hi Malcolm ... I'll bet that you are the one person that can tell me the history of the song that I posted! I would appreciate knowing more of the background. And, by the way, Merry Seasons Greeting from the West tip of America to you and yours. Cheers, Bob


23 Dec 01 - 10:25 AM (#615293)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: help with this song please - Palace Grand
From: Malcolm Douglas

I'm afraid I don't know anything about the antecedents of Lady Mary/ Palace Grand/ Sad Song.  All I can tell you is that the best-known set of it came from May Kennedy McCord of Springfield, Missouri; the song was noted from her in the 1930s by both Vance Randolph (Ozark Folk Songs) and Carl Sandburg (American Songbag), and again by Max Hunter some thirty years later.  You can hear a "field" recording of Mrs McCord singing it at the  The Max Hunter Folk Song Collection:

Palace Grand  As sung by May Kennedy McCord, Springfield, Missouri on October 21, 1960.

Other traditional sets have been found in Texas (William A. Owens, Texas Folk Songs) and from Evelyne Beers in Virginia in 1964 (Michael E. Bush, Folk Songs of Central West Virginia).  That information from Steve Roud's Folksong Index.

And I still can't help with the other song, unfortunately.  It's the sort of thing that ought to be at Levy, but it's not...


23 Dec 01 - 05:28 PM (#615490)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: help with this song please - Palace Grand
From: GUEST,barry

Many thanks all you who searched about yhe place looking for palace grand,The fault is at my end,(wrong title) So I'll leave it alone for now. By the way I must say,this is a magic site,with very nice people. thank you all,and happy holidays barry.