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22 Dec 01 - 07:41 AM (#614688) Subject: Vegtables from hell From: GUEST,Karen Jonason I am seeking the tune of the song Vegetables from Hell which I found on an Australian website. The rhythm of the lyrics suggest an Irish tune. Anyone know it? |
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22 Dec 01 - 08:32 AM (#614697) Subject: Lyr Add: VEGETABLES FROM HELL (Hicks, Francis) From: GUEST,Paul This song I presume. I don't have a tune I'm afraid, but I am curious as to how the rhythm of the lyrics suggest an Irish tune?? Grateful for an explanation. Thanks Paul
-Joe Offer- |
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22 Dec 01 - 11:26 AM (#614768) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Karen J Re. the lyrics: they have a sort of bouncy feel and if I sing them to an Irish sort of tune they feel right. I'd still like the real tune though! |
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22 Dec 01 - 11:30 AM (#614772) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: wysiwyg I thought it was a new Mudcatter, Vegetables from Hull. ~S~ |
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22 Dec 01 - 12:16 PM (#614800) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Paul from Hull Oi! Wizzywig.... ;>{D} *GRINS* |
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22 Dec 01 - 01:01 PM (#614829) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: wysiwyg A group membership-- carrots from hull, radishes from hull, broccoli, etc. Crunchy and good for you. If I were from Hull, let's see, I think right now I'd be the Rutabaga from Hull, looking for a bunch of potatoes to make Rutmus. ~S~ |
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22 Dec 01 - 01:18 PM (#614834) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Amos I have always cosidered broccoli the vegetable from hell. I am sure everyone has their own candidates -- okra, plaintains of various sorts, stringy squash, and on and on. Some kids, although I am not one, feel that ALL vegetables share a common point of origin down in those lower regions! A |
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22 Dec 01 - 02:16 PM (#614857) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: GUEST,SharonA at the library Artichokes. I love them steamed, with lemon butter, but they've got prickly parts as well as a thistle that'll kill ya (hence the term "choke") if you're fool enough to eat that part. Hardly the sort of thing one would expect a benevolent God to create! |
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22 Dec 01 - 02:24 PM (#614863) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Amos If that's the limit of your disappointment, Sharon, count yourself blessed!! A |
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22 Dec 01 - 02:25 PM (#614865) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: catspaw49 Turnips My grandmother would mash the damn things andalthough a bit more transluscent, they resemble mashed potatoes. When you're 5 or 6, you don't see that difference easily and diving into a mound of turnips when you were expecting taters is enough to gag a maggot! BTW, I never forgave her for that....... Spaw |
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22 Dec 01 - 04:17 PM (#614943) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Mark Cohen Go on, 'Spaw, forgive her...it will help your karma immensely. And I think your karma needs all the help it can get! ["Pardon me, but I think my karma just ran over your dogma"] But back on track, has anyone wondered who first figured out how to eat an artichoke? I mean, it's the only food I know of that needs an instruction manual. Aloha, Mark |
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22 Dec 01 - 04:25 PM (#614947) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: GUEST,SharonA at the library Mark: You mean, the first one who lived to tell the tale? BTW, who was the first brave soul to eat a kiwi fruit? Amos: No, no, I'm not disappointed at all. I suspect the artichoke's defense system is all part of that Curse of Adam and Eve thang. *G* |
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22 Dec 01 - 04:49 PM (#614962) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Mark Cohen Come to the Saturday Farmer's Market here in Hilo, and you'll find fruits and vegetables that look like they came out of a bad science fiction movie! (Ever see a rambutan? It's bright red and looks like a cross between a plum and a Koosh ball.) But oh, do they taste good! Well, most of them, anyway... Aloha, Mark |
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22 Dec 01 - 05:55 PM (#614976) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Lonesome EJ Spaw, you touched off a memory for me on the turnips. My Mom did the same thing..."eat them. They're mashed potatoes!" I would gag a few spoonfuls down, thinking "there's something really wrong with these potatoes." Later, when I discovered that they were a different vegetable entirely, I was ok with them. |
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22 Dec 01 - 06:40 PM (#615001) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Mark Cohen Um, while we've been having fun here, Karen, who started this thread with a simple request, is still waiting patiently to see if anyone knows the tune to the song. Aloha, Mark |
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22 Dec 01 - 06:51 PM (#615009) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: GUEST,Desdemona Oooh---I've always thought of brussels sprouts as vegetables from hell! I'd include lima beans, but I suppose they're "legumes from hell"! |
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22 Dec 01 - 08:39 PM (#615065) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Rick Fielding "There is only ONE veg-etable from Hell dear Bretheren and sistren...only one veg-etable SO despise-ed among the others that have been blessed..SO despise-ed that decent veg-etables actually cross the street upon it's approach, lest they be infected with it's despise-edness... Yea I'm talkin' about a veg-etable that blemisheth the very name "veg-etable"...Yea I mean that curse-ed, most vile, most hideous abomination....and it's name is....Can I hear a Hialeah....ONION!! Out damned veg-etable!" Pastor Fuzz |
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22 Dec 01 - 09:22 PM (#615076) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Bob Bolton G"day Karen Jonason, What was the "Australian Website"? Can you give the name or URL ... I may be able to contact the person responsible and track down tune details. Regards, Bob Bolton |
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22 Dec 01 - 10:05 PM (#615097) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: GUEST,Paul Bob, I put a link in the first reply to this thread... (scroll up a bit) Paul |
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22 Dec 01 - 10:43 PM (#615129) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: little john cameron Geez Rick,funny you should mention that.Oor mutual pal Jonnie Lynn hates them as weel.You should see him searchin through his denner lookin for disguised onions.Ah mind ah couldnae staun dill pickles.Maist times when ye get tae a pairty the only thing left are the wee slices that fowk picked aff an' left oan the plate.Ane time ah wis starvin an' that wis aw' that wis left,so ah scoffed them.Noo ah can scoff the hale jaur.ljc |
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23 Dec 01 - 07:36 AM (#615248) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Bob Bolton G'day GUEST,Paul, Thanks ... I had not followed your link. I know Peter Hicks and Geoff Francis. They did live nearby in Sydney, but they've moved down to southern Tasmania - however, I have kept in touch, so I will see if Peter has the tune in some sort of notation. Regards, Bob Bolton |
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23 Dec 01 - 09:19 AM (#615272) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: wysiwyg (Um, Mark, some folks post just to keep an interesting thread near the top, instead of saying "refresh".... I think we all hope to see this request filled.) ~S~ |
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23 Dec 01 - 07:02 PM (#615547) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: GUEST,Desdemona Oh, pastor~tell us o' the lickin' burnin' flames o' Hell in which the demon onions will roast for all eternity, surrounded wi' lima beans & brussels sprouts a-prickin' 'em wi' pitchforks! (Personally I like onions, but that doesn't necessarily signify much---they'd be by no means the only things I'm fond of that I'd be unsurprised to meet in Old Nick's parlor!) |
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23 Dec 01 - 07:09 PM (#615553) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Amos Brussel sprouts and broccoli, and likewise rutabagga Are vege-tables of the damned, the kind sir that will gag ya! To live on nothing else but this should be a traitor's sentence! If vegetables can sin, then they have exceeded all repentance Cho:
They're the vegetables from hell! Who's up for the second verse? A |
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23 Dec 01 - 07:16 PM (#615558) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: GUEST,Desdemona Sung to the tune of.....? "Ye brussels sprouts and turnips, Pray learn from what I know Your knack for indigestion's Gonna land ye down below!" OH "Cause ye're vegetables from Hell, The vegetables from hell!! God spare us all from dining on The vegetables from hell" |
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23 Dec 01 - 07:21 PM (#615562) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Bob Bolton G'day again Karen, I have passed on your request to Peter Hicks ... if he's not off on tour, or up to his eyeballs in Christmas gigs, he may get back soon. I suspect that the tune could be one of his own ... and I doubt that he would have it in notation form ... we will see. Regards, Bob Bolton |
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23 Dec 01 - 07:30 PM (#615565) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Bob Bolton G'day again, GUEST,Paul and Karen: I was going to say that I did not think that Peter and Geoff would be all that likely to use an Irish tune ... especially with Peter's great interest in Blues ... But I may need to back off alittle on that. The lyric has a persistent internal rhyme in the third line of each quatrain (what the Irish don't call "Rhyme Royal!) and that is quite common in Irish popular song of the 19th century. Australian song (unlike what you would have thought of dance, listening to many "Bush Bands" of the 1980s) does have a strong Irish strain, resonating as it does with the Australian larrikin streak. We will see what Peter comes up with. Regards, Bob Bolton |
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23 Dec 01 - 09:43 PM (#615609) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull I misread the title, I thought it said vegetables from hull.! |
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23 Dec 01 - 10:45 PM (#615628) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: GUEST,Gorgeous Gary The only veggies from hell I know about emerge from the sentient chili us filkers sing about... Beware of the sentient chili (snippet of a classic filksong by Chris Weber) -- Gary, personally hates lima and kidney beans |
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24 Dec 01 - 12:37 AM (#615651) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Lonesome EJ Of the turnip I do sing, and likewise cauliflower Who give the tongue a sullen sting with bitter or with sour And I must wonder who was the first to tempt the fickle fates By cooking up such damned stuff and serving it on plates Cause ye're vegetables from hell etc.... |
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24 Dec 01 - 05:30 AM (#615700) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Guessed the difference between a Brussel (aka ENGLISH in Sainsburies {sic}) Sprout & a bogey is............ you CANNOT get a boy to eat sprouts no skin of their nose? |
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24 Dec 01 - 08:06 PM (#616055) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Bob Bolton G'day again Karen (& Paul), As I thought, Peter Hicks is on the road ... this came from Geoff (more the words end of the composition): Hello Bob, Alas. the only person who knows the tune is Peter who is away until Dec 30. We'll see what we can do after then! Happy yuletide. Geoff I'll get back next year! |
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22 Apr 02 - 09:38 AM (#695516) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Bob Bolton G'day again, Karen, I PM'ed you with the reply from Peter Hicks ... to the effect that he had not actually written a tune yet ... ! He is going to sit down and write one ... soon ... and send me (and you ... if I get your e-mail) a sound file. Any way, I had not thought about tunes, since I presume Pete had one already, but I have now looked through the words - and the immediate tune that came to my mind was something in the general area of Maggie May (or the half dozen related songs in the Australian genre). This has the right bar count and structure.
Interestingly, Maggie May is just one of the descendants of the old Methodist hymn staring Another is, of course, The Little Old Log Cabin on the Plain, which someone recently described, on this site, as "the tune for every bluegrass song". Maybe, considering that Pete is looking squarely at the American seed industry, that is the appropriate tune ...? I'll wait and see what Peter produces - but I am beginning to hear Little Old Log Cabin in my brain! egards, Bob Bolton |
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22 Apr 02 - 11:42 PM (#696205) Subject: RE: Vegtables from hell From: Stephen L. Rich WYSIWYG -- Wasn't there a movie by that title : "The Rutabaga That Ate Hull"? |
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23 Apr 02 - 12:05 AM (#696228) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Mountain Dog Then there's the classic Ogden Nash couplet: "Parsley is gharsley." (I know, I know, it's an herb, but that's why old Ogden always kept his poetic license posted in a prominent place...) |
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23 Apr 02 - 05:18 AM (#696331) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: fat B****rd Radishes, F...ing Radishes !!!!!!!!! Not only do I hate the taste but I fail to see how anybody can eat the dreadful things. |
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23 Apr 02 - 08:35 AM (#696397) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Troll Vile, vapid, vulgar, vomitrocious, vested with NO virtue...eggplant. AAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!!! troll |
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23 Apr 02 - 10:12 AM (#696450) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Coyote Breath OK troll, calm down, no egg plant here! I thought Vegetables From Hell might have been a Peter Stampfel string band name, like McGrundy Old Timey Wool Thumpers or something. I agree with Brussel's sprouts, small cabbages or something. My least favorite is asparagus. Next stewed tomatoes. I actually like broccoli, really! Especially with a light cheese sauce. Hmmmmm. I LOVE onions, at least the taste. Unfortunately they do not love me and when I get one in something or other I am always torn between eating it and staying near the john or picking it out. Gastrointestinal alert! White Castle's "onions" are NOT onions, they are CABBAGE! Really. That explains the gas. I don't know what those pieces of greyish matter (not brains) that passes as meat are in fact but I suspect it is sweepings. Well last night I had some delicious morels and bison on home-made bread with dried, sun ripened tomatoes and a lovely mixed vegetable salad, with white zinfandel. The mix had broccoli and cauliflowers, summer squash, carrots, cucumber and vine ripened tomato. I have had egg plant sauteed in garlic butter and loved it. I tend to hang out with people who take cooking VERY seriously and they always seem to now just how to get it RIGHT! Ever tried cream cheese soup? CB
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23 Apr 02 - 10:15 AM (#696453) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Bob Bolton Er ... G'day fatB****rd and Troll, I think you blokes have a few problems ... I bought eggplant tonight ... on the menu tomorrow ... love radishes (great vegetable to get kids gardening ... grow quickly and they can just pull 'em out of the ground, rinse them off. sprinkle a lit salt on them and eat them raw ... delicious!) Oh ... and the the thread is actually about genetically modified vegies ... ! Regards, Bob Bolton |
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24 Apr 02 - 12:06 AM (#697150) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Bob Bolton G'day yet again: Karen, Now I look at the song as being in "open season" (IE: Peter hasn't actually got a preferred tune for it ... yet) I keep think of existing tunes to which I would sing it. Some may be suggested by association of ideas ... but I'm now favoring Self Sufficient Farm, a lovely little tale of hopeful (would be) organic farmers, written by Don Henderson, a lovely Australian songmaker who passed away about ten years back. Maybe I should check to see if I have posted this one, with it tune in Alan of Oz's MIDItxt app. I think it works well ... but then Peter will come along with something fresh from the depths of his creative talents ... ? I'll have to give it a run with one or other of these tunes - when I get the spare time to get along to an open session. Regards, Bob Bolton |
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24 Apr 02 - 01:08 AM (#697191) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Troll Actually I am supremely happy that there are people who love eggplant. That means that there is less of the ghastly stuff around for others to try and foist off on ME! Oh! You haven't tried eggplant the way my Aunt Hepzibah makes it. Trust me, you'd love it! Trust me, I wouldn't. Everyone draws the line somewhere. Eggplant's where I draw mine. troll |
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24 Apr 02 - 03:40 AM (#697248) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Trevor Swedes, parsnips and turnips. I think it's genetic. None of the males in my family can eat them without heaving. I'm feeling ill just imagining it. And it's not my mother's cooking either - we experimented on my nephew, gave him mashed up swede, he swallowed it, smiled and promptly vomited. YEEESSSS! A real Hedges man! |
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24 Apr 02 - 08:56 AM (#697388) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Bob Bolton G'day again Troll, Not quite sure there is a real name or recipe for tonight's dinner - Patricia browned some onions, added chopped eggplan and Roma tomatoes plus chickpeas ... coriander, cummin and black pepper. Very tasty, nutritious, healthy and vegetarian. There's (fairly literally) not future in pre-embalming your heart and arteries in cholesterol when you can eat so many tasty alternatives to fatty meat. (And, by and large, Australians eat the least fatty meat around!). Oh and BTW: Karen - I'm sending you an e-mail with a tune I just set to the song that this thread i actually about. Regards, Bob Bolton |
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24 Apr 02 - 09:36 AM (#697411) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Troll Bob, I never said that I gorged on fatty meat. I simply cannot abide eggplant. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that it is a vegetable and everything to do with the fact that it is EGGPLANT!!! I hope that you enjoy your association with the stuff and that the association is a lengthy one. I, on the other hand, will stay as far away from the beastly stuff as is practical. I cook it for Memsahib on ocassion (mousaka) because she loves it but that is as far as I will go. troll |
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24 Apr 02 - 09:56 AM (#697424) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Mountain Dog Trevor, You're quite right about swede (rutabaga to those of us in the US) - it's the answer to the question "What the %)#%$*! could be worse than a turnip?!?" Spaw - I know the old "turnips for potatoes" bait-and-switch from my growing up, too. (I suspect that those who insist "you can't tell the difference between them" are among those same poor taste-bud impaired folk who claim that carob "tastes just like chocolate"...and if carob were a vegetable, it would be on my heave list, too.) |
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24 Apr 02 - 12:31 PM (#697548) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Steve-o ...."Not quite sure there is a real name or recipe for tonight's dinner - Patricia browned some onions, added chopped eggplan and Roma tomatoes plus chickpeas ... coriander, cummin and black pepper. Very tasty, nutritious, healthy and vegetarian." I got a name for this, Bob, but there's ladies present. You should be locked in a room for a week with David Lindley's version of "The Meat Man" playing over and over! |
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25 Apr 02 - 09:42 AM (#698227) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: GUEST Vegitables from HULL |
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25 Apr 02 - 11:57 AM (#698333) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: GUEST,Mrs Lemon Trevor: I'm so sorry. One evening you came to my house and ate home-made veg soup. You ate the lot and I nearly always put parsnips in it! Did you 'hoik' all the way home? You never said. You are a gentleman!! Sally |
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25 Apr 02 - 12:06 PM (#698347) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Trevor I had big probs with it - the butternut squash was OK though |
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25 Apr 02 - 12:17 PM (#698361) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: GUEST,Shazam I have a real problem with onions,garlic and anything even smelling like them being cooked. Do you think I'm related to a vampire? |
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25 Apr 02 - 12:24 PM (#698368) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Troll Naw. You've just got a bloody sensitive nose. troll |
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25 Apr 02 - 01:07 PM (#698414) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Lonesome EJ Yuummmmm...Eggplant parmesan...(Homer Simpson drooling sounds). In fact, I'd love a plate of Patricia's eggplant stuff, Bob. |
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26 Apr 02 - 10:08 AM (#699071) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Bob Bolton G'day Lonesome, " ... I'd love a plate of Patricia's eggplant stuff, Bob ..." Well, I certainly did! I grew up, like the average Aussie kid, pretty suspicious of vegetables that my parents insised I should eat (Pumpkin ... "Listen, back in the Depression, that's all we could get to eat ... !) but I got over it. Most vegatables work well ... in sensible amoiunts and intelligent combinations. These days I'm prepared to try a hell of a lot I never touched as a kid ... somoe of us grow up ... and enjoy it! BTW: While I've been waiting for a tune from the Peter Hicks, the author of the song that this thread is really about ... I've ended up fitting it to a good old traditional tune: from an Australian song nother Fall of Rain ... one of the tunes from the same family as The Old Log Cabin in the Lane. I've PMed it off to Karen ... but I might post it to the DigiTrad, if there is interest (come on ... all you campaigners against meddling with genes ...). Regards, Bob Bolton |
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26 Apr 02 - 11:39 AM (#699116) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Charley Noble Bob- sounds like you're having fun with this. I think you're on the right track for the tune. This song kind of reminds me of the songs we used to sing for the old food-co-op benefits "Down at the Barnyard Dance (When the Vegetables had Their Spree)" followed up by "Sweeny Todd the Barber." The late Jan Harmon composed a similar song she entitled "Designer Genes" which I've got on a cassette around here somewhere. I hated egg plant for years based on the slimey mess my parents would cook up and scoff down with such delight. Then someone's fiancee intoduced me to their traditional baked egg plant parmesan and I actually cried tears as I scoffed it down; she was an undertaker's daughter but one hell of a cook! Maybe there's a song in that. |
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26 Apr 02 - 11:40 AM (#699117) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: Troll Bob, I'm 61 and I have hated eggplant all my life. It is, however, just about the only thing I won't eat. troll |
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26 Apr 02 - 03:33 PM (#699247) Subject: RE: Vegetables from hell From: John MacKenzie Slice your eggplant/aubergine/melanzane into 1/4" slices, lay out on a large plate, and sprinkle with salt, leave it for a while [1 hour] and the salt will draw out the moisture, and with it the bitterness. Rinse off the salt, blot the slices dry, dip in tempura batter, made with iced soda water, and flash fry in deep oil. DEEELICIOUS. As for the Swede/Rutabaga controversy, mashed with butter and pepper, along with some mashed potato, and placed beside a steaming juicy haggis, heavenly. Especially if washed down with a glass or three of decent malt whisky. Failte.....Giok |