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04 Jan 02 - 06:59 PM (#621231) Subject: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Trinidad Hey there. Right, I need a song realy quick. I have to find a folk song to sing for my music class that'll get my fellow students to realise folk can be fun. I didn't want to do a total rip off of one of Kate Rusby's songs, but does anyone know of a good song with a simple tune and a good lyric? I really need this. We're like 15-16 years old. Get your ideas in, please? I want to make them hear a good song! Cheers, Trinidad. |
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04 Jan 02 - 07:05 PM (#621235) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: AliUK The Nightingale. Elicit sex wrapped up in metaphor, what could a school want more and what 15 year old wouldn't enjoy if they knew the backstory. |
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04 Jan 02 - 07:05 PM (#621236) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Amos You want an existing folk song or are you asking someone to write one for you? A fun folk song for teenagers? Hmmmmm. Maybe the Good Ship, Venus, or the Balls of Carreighmore, or the Throes of Fornication? Little Ball of Yarn? A |
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04 Jan 02 - 07:36 PM (#621265) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Sorcha Little Brown Building Grandma's Feather Bed Peanut Butter Song (John McCutcheon) WATERMELON (McCutcheon) |
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04 Jan 02 - 07:56 PM (#621272) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Tweed StackoLee |
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04 Jan 02 - 08:02 PM (#621275) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Gareth Don't now if "Trinidad" equals a geographical location or not but try some calypso ie The mighty Sparrow. Such as (Political) Snakes in the Square, or more commercially the Banana Boat Song. Or this Click Here or a good old rollicking shanty such as this which spells out what a sailor had to comtemplate before returning to his own true love, and a contrast to this. All which may be entirely off the mark but we tried. Gareth |
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04 Jan 02 - 08:04 PM (#621278) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: katlaughing Trinidad, click on the DigiTrad database at the top of the Forum page and take a look at the songs listed there, over 8,000. Also, go to Quick Links box on the main Forum page and take a look at Aine's Songbook, plus Alan's Tunebook, there are many really fun original songs by a lot us in there. If you can get it by your teachers, might I suggest Amos' "Does Your Pickle Glow At Night?" Or, Bert's "Size Doesn't Matter?" True, they may not be "folk," yet, but they have already been going through the "folk process." Also, take a look at the "Sick Note" or "Paddy's Excuse Note" in the DT. If you read this, post, again, and tell us more of what you are looking for, okay? Good luck! kat |
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04 Jan 02 - 08:06 PM (#621279) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Gareth sorry Trinidad Try This corrected link Banana Boat Song socially relevant. Gareth |
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04 Jan 02 - 08:10 PM (#621282) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Rolfyboy6 I agree with Tweed, a 'badman' ballad would be a really good choice. Stackolee is a good one, another is Betty and Dupree And another good one is Duncan and Brady |
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04 Jan 02 - 08:20 PM (#621285) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: GUEST An audience participation refrain |
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04 Jan 02 - 09:56 PM (#621332) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: GUEST,tom check out on some Arcadian folk songs. If not try Stan Rogers. |
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04 Jan 02 - 10:55 PM (#621356) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: TeriLu "Paz Y Libertad" by Jose Luis-Orozco (I think that's how you spell his name) or "All Mixed Up" by Pete Seeger |
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05 Jan 02 - 07:19 AM (#621448) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Mr Red as AliUK says. eg Just about any genuine shanty, but make it a genuine one so that you can shrug your shoulders in "pained innocence". Just for starters any song with Cape Horn (no I don't need to explain). then again the "Hanging Johnny" shanty where the singer gets to kill-off his whole family and crewmates, there is scope to weave in the odd character from modern times and claim the "folk process" because it is precisely what the sailors did. Hey! And you are then on the slippery slope to become a songwriter. Folk is fun, and fairly earthy in parts, it is just not commercial right now. most of all ENJOY. |
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05 Jan 02 - 11:27 AM (#621489) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: reble hi, I,m new to mudcat and fairly new to folk, my suggestion would be a simple one such as Sam Hall, my 14 yr old daughter suggests The reel in the Flickering light, my 15 Yr old loves to hear a song by Leonard Cohen, Who by fire |
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05 Jan 02 - 11:56 AM (#621504) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: wysiwyg Welcome to Mudcat, reble! ~Susan |
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05 Jan 02 - 02:33 PM (#621572) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Mudlark The15/16 yrs old I know like Tom Leher's folk send-up Rickety tickety tin...I myself enjoy especially the line...the water tasted bad for a week...and we had to make do with gin... |
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05 Jan 02 - 09:51 PM (#621841) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: GUEST,KickyC I teach high school students and we use folk music a lot in history class. I have also performed for some diversity day activities. Some of the songs my students have enjoyed were "Draft Dodger Rag" about deferments during the Viet Nam War, and "Where Have All the Flowers Gone." I was surprised at how many students had never hear "Puff the Magic Dragon"! Some who had thought it was written a few years ago for the movie. They are surprised that it is as old as it is. I was singing it at the diversity day session, and I looked up to see two girls sitting in front of me in tears! KickyC |
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05 Jan 02 - 10:53 PM (#621897) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: KickyC Oh, I just thought of one more they really like. El Condor Pasa. Paul Simon wrote the lyrics, but the song is as old as the Andes! KickyC |
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06 Jan 02 - 09:39 AM (#622113) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Uncle_DaveO The Ratcatcher's Daughter The Cute Little Window The Young Man Who Wouldn't Hoe Corn Springfield Mountain (with its last verse, ....Young people all ....This warning take ....And don't get bit ....By a big black snake! Dave Oesterreich |
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06 Jan 02 - 11:53 AM (#622156) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: GUEST,Trinidad Hey again, seeing loads of good suggestions here. Thanks for them all! I did kind of leave the options open, so I think I better give you more of an idea what I want. I'm looking for something like, well not a send up of folk, but just a nice little song. I was thinking of doing The Cobbler's Daughter, to the tune Kate Rusby uses, but I don't know. I wanted to show the guys in my class that folk is good music! I usually just do instrumental stuff, you knowm, so I wasn't sure where to start! But anything you can think of, go on. oh, by the way, I'm in Scotland, and the last thing Scottish kids want to hear is Scottish folk - Burns and that - I like it, it's great stuff, but most kids hardly have adialect any more, and they hate it, so maybe English folk is better. |
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06 Jan 02 - 01:20 PM (#622193) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: WyoWoman One of Kate Rusby's that was a big hit last year when I substitute taught high school kids was "I Am Stretched On Your Grave," because the back story -- an ancient Celtic poem written by a young man whose one true love, the girl he had loved since they were children, has died and he says he will stay stretched on her grave forever -- is so compelling and full of yummy angst and a sort of goth sentiment that teens really enjoy. (I know I certainly did -- and still do sometimes.) WW |
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06 Jan 02 - 07:49 PM (#622416) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: GUEST,L How Aboout "Black Velvet Band"? It's a cute little ditty about a pickpocket...."Her eyes they shone like the diamonds...you'd think she was queen of the land. Her hair was thrown over her shoulders ...tied up with a black velvet band" |
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06 Jan 02 - 09:41 PM (#622475) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Mudlark Something for the temperance teens...Away With Rum. A fun sing with a good chorus is The Skye Boat Song. A good nonsense song...I buyed me a little dog, color it was brown...don't know the actual name of it. |
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07 Jan 02 - 04:11 PM (#622866) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: GUEST The limeliters (limeliters.com) currently do two in their concerts from the CD titled "UNTIL WE GET IT RIGHT" that would be perfect 1) Generic Uptempo Folk Song 2) Folk rap (a song about folk songs done in pure rap style - prevents people from assuming that "folk" locks into a particular genre). There are also terrific versions of tunes by Ochs, Chapin and others to let people appreciate how good some of this stuff can be. I would also recommend that you introduce them to the wonderful work of Kim & Reggie Harris - Songs of the Underground Railroad. Traditional stuff - words & music available at the local library) to let them know that real history (lyrics by Harriet Tubman, for example) can be discovered via the folk song. Kim and Reggie (kimandreggie.com) happen to be of African decent - that which will let them appreciate, early on, that folk music, being "the peoples' music, is of, for and about all of us. Good luck
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07 Jan 02 - 09:12 PM (#623044) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Irish sergeant Trinidad: If you're avoiding Scottish folk music, might I suggest a few from our side of the pond? Johnny has Gone for a Soldier: Stack-o-lee: All for me Grog; Or from your side of the pond; Isn't it Grand, Boys: D-Day Dodgers or Banks of Sicily (Both by Hamish Henderson). Hope the gig goes well for you and everyone has fun. Kindest regards, Neil |
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07 Jan 02 - 09:47 PM (#623062) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Bobert Yo, Trinidad!!! Since you are going to be performing in front of and with other young folks who may not be real polished on their guitars. THE BALLAD OF HOLLIS BROWN, by Bob Dylan. One chord, lots of story and emotion and anyone can play it, even if they have never touched a guitar. Guaretneed. Tell all your frineds to bring their older siblings guitars and lite the place up with folks who have never played or sung folk music in their like. I GUAREN-DOUBLEDAMNED-TEE THIS SONG...................... |
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08 Jan 02 - 04:45 PM (#623638) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Dan Schatz Labor songs or sea chanteys might be a good choice - those are the songs I sang in high school that my classmates could "get." "Randy Dandy-o" is a good capstain chantey. "Heave with a will, you parish rigged bums Way, hey, roll and go Take your hands from your pockets and don't suck your thumbs To me rollicking, randy dandy-o" In other genres, "Hang on the Bell Nellie," (which used to be a standard in youth groups) and "Are You Shingling the Rum Seller's Roof." Good luck! Dan |
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08 Jan 02 - 05:44 PM (#623687) Subject: RE: HELP! I need a song here, guys! From: Trinidad Cheers guys! I still have some times left, and the more suggestions the better! I've been looking up dem songs faster than you can say george Harrison. It's so hard to decide tho! Keeep it comin' guys, keep it comin. I've got till monday. |