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27 Jan 02 - 02:04 PM (#636692) Subject: Men of no Property From: MARINER Can anyone help me with details of this group. It's for a friend in the U.S.I suppose its not right of me to make snap judgements, but from what I can glean they seem to be a sub-Wolfe Tones type of Provo promoters. Would I be correct in this assumption?. |
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27 Jan 02 - 02:11 PM (#636698) Subject: RE: Men of no Property From: Sorcha I couldn't find anything helpful at all. Sorry. |
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27 Jan 02 - 02:35 PM (#636704) Subject: RE: Men of no Property From: Frank Maher (extra) Yes,You're Right!!!!!I had a Tape of Them once.All anti British Songs and IRA Stuff! |
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28 Jan 02 - 01:57 PM (#637196) Subject: RE: Men of no Property From: GUEST,Philippa No, they were more People's Democracy types and more socialist leanings. Most of the individuals are still around and still friends and still playing and singing. Later they called themselves People of no property. They've been mentioned before on Mudcat so if you do an archive search you may find more info and selected songs. |
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28 Jan 02 - 01:59 PM (#637199) Subject: RE: Men of no Property From: GUEST,Philippa see Belfast Town |
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29 Jan 02 - 12:10 PM (#637973) Subject: RE: Men of no Property From: Paddy Plastique Dunno about 'sub-Wolfe Tones' as they actually lived in Norn Iron as opposed to the Tones wing of bar-stool Republicanism. I assume that thread is about the song 'Shipyard Slips', I doubt you'll find a song the Tones penned that can stand up to that one. It's not at all sectarian either, though probably not representative of their work in general. Someone in a 'Slips' thread said that they were 'aligned' with the INLA at one point - which is a very dark shade of green indeed. I also seem to remember Christy Moore mentioning them in his notes on the song 'Our Lord and Jesse James' in the Christy Moore songbook. The song itself doesn't mince about, either. Fairly virulently anti-SDLP. |
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29 Jan 02 - 03:33 PM (#638104) Subject: RE: Men of no Property From: Big Tim never heard of the band but the title is a quote from the writings of Wolfe Tone, off the top of my head. |
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29 Jan 02 - 04:41 PM (#638160) Subject: RE: Men of no Property From: Sorcha I can't get Phillipa's link to work, so let's try this Belfast Town |
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29 Jan 02 - 04:42 PM (#638161) Subject: RE: Men of no Property From: Sorcha The problem is that Philippa linked directly to Shorty, who appears to not be recieving visitors just now. My link is the "internal" one that keeps you on whatever server you are in on. (See Joe, I did learn it!) |
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30 Jan 02 - 05:00 AM (#638547) Subject: RE: Men of no Property From: Paddy Plastique As to meself, I passed comment on a thread without looking at it - eejit! A thread discussing 'Shipyard Slips' written by David Wilde, of 'The Men...' should be here: . Scroll down and a contributor transcribes another song by them |
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30 Jan 02 - 05:06 AM (#638549) Subject: RE: Men of no Property From: Paddy Plastique Made a hames of that. Here's the thread : Shipyard Slips 'The Men..' are mentioned in the message by Guest, Paul Burke There's no second song, just his corrections to the song in question. |