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17 Feb 02 - 08:23 PM (#652373) Subject: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Barbara Neill-Bottle Does anyone know what happened to Martin Carter and Graham Jones? They used to play folk clubs in the late 70s; they had a very distinctive style and Graham Jones used to play fretless bass. I'd love to know if there are any recordings around. Cheers |
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17 Aug 08 - 05:20 PM (#2416290) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Cosmo the One man Band I played Piano, Vibes and Flute with the Lads from 1977 to 1979 in England and Holland. I also have been looking for the Carter Jones Duo. I can be reached at mrcosmo@bellsouth.net |
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17 Aug 08 - 07:42 PM (#2416396) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: Mysha Hi, Not really an answer, but there's this other thread asking more or less the same thing. Bye, Mysha |
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18 Aug 08 - 12:40 AM (#2416556) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: Ross Campbell There was an album - can't remember the title. Graham Jones had a unique style on the intricately carved fretless bass, made for him by his brother. Despite it being an easily-identifiable one-off instrument, it was stolen from their car, and as far as I know was never reecovered. Graham Jones appeared at Fylde some years back in a Leeds-based band called Caravanserai, but I haven't heard or senn anything of him since. Local (Fylde) musicians Band from the Wood still include the odd Carter/Jones song in their set. Ross |
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18 Aug 08 - 04:36 AM (#2416600) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Gordon T I met Graham again last week - at his brother Steve's wedding in Keighley - but apart from establishing the fact that he's alive,that probably doesnt help you much! Didnt Martin Carter move to Edinburgh? |
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27 Nov 08 - 06:56 AM (#2502785) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST As far as I remember Martin moved to Glasgow sometime during the 1980s. |
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27 Nov 08 - 07:06 AM (#2502787) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Betsy at Work Martin did a lot in Amsterdam late 70's early 80's. Good distinctiuve singer / player who wrote a few songs. Nice Bloke. |
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27 Nov 08 - 07:28 AM (#2502793) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,MC Fat (at work) Patrick Walker in Sheffield sang one of their songs recently at the Survivors Session of Sheffield Folk Festival. |
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27 Nov 08 - 08:02 AM (#2502814) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: CannieShieldsLaddie Saw them in South Shields 70/80s excellent duo. Link to some other stuff here http://coventrymusichistory.vox.com/library/posts/tags/ilkley/ |
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07 Dec 08 - 09:11 PM (#2509878) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: Bainbo I seem to have this recollection of them singing a song called Someplace In Japan. It started: "Stomu Yamatushka lived someplace in Japan / Very easy-going, a gentle kind of man..." And the chorus went "No more Nagasaki, the seagulls seem to say. / We've seen it once and that's enough - Do you know what we mean?" I've googled it and can't find it. I've almost certainly spelled the Japanese man's name wrong. It's possible it wasn't Carter and Jones - it was a very long time ago. I might even have dreamed the whole thing! But I do remember Graeme's fretless bass. |
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08 Dec 08 - 11:19 AM (#2509963) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: nickp For anyone 'into' audio torrents who might be a member of Dimeadozen, there is a recently seeded selection of recordings of these two. Some from the radio, some in someone's room. I guess you may need to be a member to access the link but here's a try: clicky |
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10 Dec 08 - 10:09 AM (#2511700) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Barnacle (at work) No More Nagasaki was definitely one of Martin's songs, recorded by The Wilsons quite a few years ago. |
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31 Dec 08 - 03:22 PM (#2528539) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Steve The Train I saw them at least once in Blackpool - they were brilliant - my mate at the time recorded (he had a professional tape recorder) most or all of the songs, with Martin & Graham's permission - I have them now as MP3's and they still sound brilliant - good music goes on for ever!! I can email them if anyone is interested or post them onto ??? a site for people to access? Actually my son has set up a website, so that might a good place to put them> I'll investigate....Happy New Year all.... |
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31 Dec 08 - 06:36 PM (#2528663) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: Ross Campbell Hi, Steve Carter and Jones were always great favourites at the old Blackpool Folk Club. I remember them playing the Raikes a couple of times, possibly even earlier at the King's Arms, Talbot Road. I would much appreciate mp3s if you can get them to me. If you log in to Mudcat as a member (drop-down menu in the Quick Links box above) you can use the PM facility to send me your email details (safer than posting them in the Forum). Ross |
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01 Jan 09 - 02:13 PM (#2529135) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST Hi Steve, i would VERY much like those mp3's - 'seems the original torrnet is dead. I remember Carter and Jones from the Star and Garter, Putney, late '70's. Great gigs . . . . I have PM'd you with my email + details thanks! Malcolm |
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01 Jan 09 - 02:18 PM (#2529140) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: mpmusicny . . or rather, I would if i could. If you PM me, I can give you details - thanks again! Malcolm |
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05 Jan 09 - 12:07 PM (#2532107) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,annwenevenstar I knew them in Ilkley in the 70's. Martin brought out an L.P. called Something New which was brilliant. I had a copy but lent it to someone and never got it back! I would love to hear them again. Anyone help? |
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23 Jan 09 - 07:09 AM (#2546836) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,David Parker I'd also like to hear news of them. I saw them play at various places in the Lake District in the mid 70s and they stayed with me a short time while they were setting up in London around '78. I saw them play a Radio 2 folk session at that time, which someone, somewhere, might have recorded. Like Malcolm, also saw them in the cellar at the Star & Garter and also a pub in Putney where they had a drummer and other musicians; maybe Mr Cosmo was part of the outfit. Martin's songwriting and incredible guitar playing has never left me. I'd really like to hear those MP3s. dp |
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06 Feb 09 - 10:11 AM (#2558998) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Bathcat I'm amazed to find these threads. I've been trying to find out for years what happened to Martin Carter. His was such a talent that I couldn't believe that he'd sunk without trace. I even wrote to Mike Harding at Radio 2 to see whether he knew what had happened to him, but he didn't seem to have heard of him. I went to an awards ceremony in Leeds in the early 70s when Carter won a recording contract, with the DJM label (I think). I remember two albums - a green one called 'The Ups and Downs' and another one, an earlier one I think, whose name I can't remember. It seems to be impossible to buy his music. I was wondering what it might take to tempt you to burn this music you have, Jon. I'd be your best mate and all that. No, seriously, it's a blimmin' cheek, but what would it take to twist your arm? I would dearly love to hear and have that wonderful stuff again. |
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06 Feb 09 - 10:14 AM (#2559001) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Bathcat I think he was called Stomu Yamashta. I seem to remember that he played with a band called 'Rabbit'. |
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10 Feb 09 - 11:47 AM (#2562818) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,David Parker i want to add my voice to bathcat's. if anyone can provide access to any c & j recording, i'd be grateful. i've a couple of poorly recorded cassettes of gigs which at this point i can't digitise because i ain't got the equipment. but at some point i hope to be able to do that and am happy to pass the results on to anyone interested. as i say, the quality of the recordings is poor at best. dp |
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24 Feb 09 - 04:19 PM (#2574976) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Sam Paechter I'd be interested in hearing those early Graham Jones tracks too. Fantastic musician. |
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04 Jul 09 - 05:12 PM (#2671631) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,celia kennedy Glad I am not alone in wondering about Martin Carter. Still have a copy of The Ups and Downs. I too have written to Mike Harding asking if they have any recordings. |
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22 Jul 09 - 04:40 PM (#2685490) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Leigh I am Liz's son Leigh. I too have been wondering and at times trying to find out what happened to Martin. He was such an inspiration to me musically as he lived with us for 10 years or so. I am a musician (mainly drums but also guitar, bass and a bit of piano) and it's all down to Martin and Grahams influence on me as a boy. I have changed my surname since then to Stothard. If anyone comes across him please tell him I am looking for him. Thanks. |
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03 Sep 09 - 11:23 AM (#2715441) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Colin Moore It seems lots of us old folky,s have lost track of Martin and Graham.I still have the album ups and downs.Martin stayed with me in Horsforth 1971. Leigh give my regards to your mum from me havn,t seen her in years. |
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05 Sep 09 - 05:01 PM (#2716976) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Johnny Hale I would love to have a copy of any mp3's of Martin Carter and Graham Jones. Back in 1980, Colin Holt (now well-known in the north east) and I used to perform 'The Slow Lowlands of Holland' around the South Yorkshire folk club and Arts Centre Circuit. If I could get hold of any recordings, I would also pass them on to Colin, as I know he would be pleased to hear them again too. Best regards johnnyhaleuk@yahoo.co.uk |
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06 Sep 09 - 10:52 AM (#2717450) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: Tyke In the Eights I was in the String in Amsterdam with Dab Hand. On the wall were a few hundred Broken Guitar strings each one with a signiture of it's owner. Yes a Martin Carter string was on the wall as well and in the entrance was an advertisement selling an LP featuring both Martin and Graham. The LP The Hermit with the Mountain Ash Band can still be found on The Gemm website You will not belive the price. However it will send you pricing up you vinal colection. I last contact I had with Martin was when the Bacca Pipes Folk Club tracked him down to Glasgow and he came down to Keighly to do a solo Booking. |
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24 Oct 09 - 04:31 PM (#2751923) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST I've got the Someone New & also the Ups & Downs albums as cassette copies and have recently converted them to mp3 but I don't have images of the album covers, can anyone help with that? |
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11 Dec 09 - 06:50 AM (#2786010) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Jon Strong Hi, I knew Martin & Graham back in the mid to late seventies, I lived in Amsterdam and we had the same agent Anikke Zwetsloot, was there when they got all their gear nicked outside the Adam & Eve youth hotel the second night after arriving. The last I heard of Martin he'd definitely moved to Glasgow, I did a gig in King Tuts Wha Wha around 1995 with Steve Gibbons and left one of our CDs on their Juke Box, couple of months later we were playing at the Grove in Leeds and a guy came up to me and said Martin had heard the CD in King Tut's and said hello, like you all I've tried many searches but got nowhere, one possibility mentioned to me was that he may have changed his name to "Spider" or "Spyder" have tried Googling that to no avail. Had many pretty wild nights with them in Amsterdam one being jamming in a club called the Kikaboo near the Vondel Park untill 10.00 in the morning then having to pay to get out of the place along with Cosmo aka Perry Tillman, if anyone has any more info I'd be very grateful, must admit to being a bit fearful for him. Cheers Jon |
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27 Dec 09 - 03:41 PM (#2797457) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Steve Taylor I have wondered for many years what became of Martin Carter and hope eventually to find out. I first saw him perform at the George folk club in Cleckheaton and went to many of his concerts both before and after he teamed up with Graham. They eventually became known as the Carter Jones Band. Martin had a weekly 30 minute folk music show on Radio Leeds and appeared with Graham on Radio 1 Folk 78. I recorded those performances on cassette and being taken off the radio the quality is good. I also recorded a special broadcast by radio Leeds of Morley Folk festival featuring Martin and Graham plus Vin Garbutt, although I don't have the recording of Vin Garbutt. I have since transferred all these recordings to CD's along with some recordings I made on a portable cassette recorder at Martin's folk club performances in West Yorkshire, the quality of these is poor but precious. I have the original Vinyl LP "Ups and Downs". I would very much like to get a copy of Martin's first album, which was a limited issue. Martin appeared with other folk musicians as the Mountain Ash Band and and made one album. A copy of which was recently sold on ebay for over £300! Steve Taylor stevet381@googlemail.com |
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31 Jan 10 - 06:16 AM (#2826241) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,John Sessions Hi, is anyone watching this still? Was talking to an old friend John Hay last night and picked up on Martins new name - Spyder, but as others have said no luck on Google, regards to all who may be searching, my email address for info is johnsessions@mac.com |
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23 Feb 10 - 01:33 PM (#2847846) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Tim Crowther I can't add anything to the 'where are they now?' thread, but remember, as a music prod and folk show presenter at BBC Radio Leeds, recording a set from Martin. I had the honour to record many excellent musicians in the early 80s at the BBC on Woodhouse Lane, but Martin stands out in my mind... he just sat down and rattled off song after song, faultlessly. All were excellent spine-tingling self-penned songs, including No More Nagasaki mentioned above. Beautiful music from a talented and genuinely nice bloke. |
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13 Jul 10 - 05:14 AM (#2944238) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Graham Smout Hello, I was a good friend of Martin Carter in the late 70's as he lived next door but one to me in Bingley for a year or two. When he appeared on radio 2 Folk 78 with Jonnie Silver I recorded it on cassette and still have the recording. Martin was an excellent musician and worked really hard to get himself some decent exposure nationally and in Holland where he often went for a short tour. He taught me guitar techniques, helped me write soem songs and we had a lot of fun together. At one time he had a full band and recorded a number of demo tracks for a manager, but then the money ran out and the project died down. He moved out of his partner Liz's home and then simply disappeared as far as I knew around 1980. It was good to read Leigh Stoddart's contribution above as I knew leigh as well and used to "babysit" for him and his sister Fiona if mum and martin were at a gig. I knew Leigh had become a musician (and a cook!) but had not realised how much of an inspiration Martin had been on him, but considering how much he influenced me, its not surprising. At the time I also knew Jon Sesions and Graham Jones and in fact I sold them a wonderful old Wolseley car around 1978! Now what happened to that? |
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11 Aug 10 - 11:52 AM (#2962917) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Joanna Simm Oh I LOVED them...that mediaeval carpet beater as Graham used to call it! Sparrow of the morning...and all the fabulous stuff they did. They were so original and brilliant. But..sorry, I was looking for the same answer as you...I dont know what happened, where they ended up...i thought they were destined for great things, would love to know. Best regards...let me know if you ever find out! Joanna |
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13 Aug 10 - 09:38 AM (#2964297) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Emer Nugent Hi There I know where Martin Carter is, he was living in Glasgow for many years before he moved to Mallorca in the early 90's, still writing and performing. You can hear some of his later songs and possibly ones he played in the folk clubs on www.cdbaby.com/spida1 He moved to mainland Spain and travelled and performed in India and then moved onto Portugal where he now performs as part of a duo "Neo's Dream" he's got new songs on www.myspace.com/neosdream If you want to get in touch with him you can email him om martincartermusic@yahoo.com The reason I know so much about what he's been up to is because we've been together for the past decade, and it was really interesting to hear stories from people who knew him from before. Peace, love and good things Emer |
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13 Aug 10 - 09:52 AM (#2964304) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Emer Nugent Oh by the way I neglected to state the obvious Martin changed his stage name in Scotland to Spida, which is what I've always called him, although now he seems more keen on Martin, so you can pick and choose! |
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23 Sep 10 - 10:39 AM (#2992235) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Jon Strong I've just been told Martin is playing in a duo called Neos Dream in Portugal, there is some stuff up on youtube and a myspace site which isn't working at the moment, really glad to hear he's OK and still playing. http://www.youtube.com/user/neosdreamtime#p/a/u/0/o-_7fcUzxl8 |
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23 Sep 10 - 11:03 AM (#2992261) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Jon Strong More links for Martin AKA SPIDA http://www.myspace.com/neosdream http://www.facebook.com/people/Emer-Nugent/669961496#!/profile.php?id=100001403633527 |
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23 Sep 10 - 07:07 PM (#2992576) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Betsy Try - spida@freepeacesongs.com - which I got from a bit of searching |
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16 Oct 10 - 01:55 PM (#3008532) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: JanHalsall Read with interest thread about Carter and Jones. Did you ever get copies of the MP3s? I had an old tape but it eventually wore out, unfortunately long before it was possible to copy them onto MP3s. I would love to have a copy if there is one about. |
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19 Oct 10 - 12:30 PM (#3010770) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Milly Molly Mandy Thank you for putting my mind at rest.Don'tknow what made me look for him today but am so glad I did, Had some crazy times in the Poynton Folk Club in the 70's a really nice guy |
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25 Nov 10 - 01:36 PM (#3040372) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,borobird hi just got back from portugal and had the pleasure of meeting spida and emer (neos dream) heard them play at a bar in lagos bought the cd and listening as we speak ! I wish them luck but most of all fun, peace and happiness from Gill |
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25 Nov 10 - 04:47 PM (#3040493) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: The Sandman where is graham jones? |
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24 Dec 10 - 04:50 AM (#3060532) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Benj I grew up in Ilkley and saw them play in, I think, the Rose and Crown, late 70's. Loved the bass & catchy songs. Only have vauge memories of them now, a song about Bristol maybe. Buried in my reel to reel tapes I think I may have a recording of a Radio Leeds broadcast.. be amazing if we could get some recordings online..... |
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14 Feb 11 - 07:40 PM (#3095389) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: Betsy Borobird - Ive tried to PM you ( I somtimes do the "guest" thing when I am lazy ) if you are a Member please PM me - I'm going to Lagos in May and would dearly love to meet up with him - I am also from a Boro - don't know whethr it is the same as you !! |
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02 Apr 11 - 03:58 PM (#3127112) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,gerhard / dic van hummel I saw these lads perform in the seventies in an Amsterdam folkmusicpub the Folk Fairport. They were quite good musicians; I still remember the names! |
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03 Apr 11 - 01:28 PM (#3127731) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Betsy Gerhard / dic van hummel Do you remember 't Kloppertje Folk Club ? in the late 60's / 70's - it was run by Anna Marie Brandt . |
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16 May 11 - 07:47 PM (#3155437) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Betsy Bumped into Martin and his lady - Emer in Portugal at a bar called the Pickle and Pie ( or could be called the Pie and Pickle )an upstairs bar by the Marina at Lagos , Portugal. As I write, it is the intention that they do a gig here every Sunday , but times change very quickly !!! Their gig lasted from 6.00 pm until 9.30pm with a 15 mins break - how about THAT in the UK ???? Martin was in great form and ably accompanied by Emer. Lots of good time music (no Matty Groves etc. ) as you would expect at a holiday location. He's in good nick - not an ounce of fat on him and still has brown short hair. He calls himself "Spyda" these days - that's entirely up to him Eh ? I asked about Graham and and he told me that over the years he had tried to contact him - to no avail. If anyone is in that part of the world the bar I mentioned is no more than 200 metres from Lagos railway station so it might be a day out from another location on the Algarve. The duo is called Neo's dream and can be seen at - WWW.myspace.com / neos dream. Should you be close to Martin / Spyda you can contact him via his lady Emer ......... emer.ge@hotmail.com Delight to see him again. |
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17 May 11 - 09:36 AM (#3155680) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: Betsy refresh |
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18 May 11 - 09:52 AM (#3156307) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: Tyke I often wonder what happened to Grahams fretless bass Guitar that was nicked. His brother Steve Jones Built it for him oh and Steve Jones is playing in Addingham on the 2nd of June. |
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14 Sep 11 - 04:38 AM (#3222955) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Ani mcneice I have just found a copy of the album made in 1971 I have just posted some photos of it on my facebook page! |
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19 Oct 11 - 11:42 AM (#3241358) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Jon Strong Been in contact with Martin and I'm trying to sort out a few gigs for him in the Yorkshire area sometime in the New Year, can anybody help? Cheers Jon. |
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05 Dec 12 - 12:00 PM (#3447485) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Emer Nugent Martin Carter AKA Spida has a new you tube video for his song Cheese on Toast, great fun song, perfect when you have the munchies! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wmf123S4dQU |
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23 Mar 13 - 10:54 AM (#3493815) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST Hi i worked for Martin and Grahams manager in the late seventies,and printed flyers for them, met them once in the printroom at battersea, South london where they stored some of their equipment , nice easy going guys and good musicians but had no idea what happened to them until i read other peoples memories.steve |
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23 Mar 13 - 11:10 AM (#3493825) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST hi,again! just googled Graham Jones name and found two bands who have a bass player with the name of Graham Jones, 'Bassa Bassa' and 'The Amber Sleep'both on you tube, hope that helps?steve |
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24 Aug 13 - 06:34 AM (#3552324) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST Last time they played at Wrea Green, I asked Graham about the bass as he seemed to be playing it again. He told me that he'd had another made, which was the one he was playing. The strange thing was, that shortly before the Wrea Green gig, his original one had turned up, so he had two of them. |
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22 May 14 - 06:41 PM (#3627717) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,John Warr Nice to hear that Martin and Graham are still about. Last saw them in the mid 1980s at Leeds Folk Festival. I recall that Peter Bellamy made the Bacca Pipes recording of Martin, I have the tape in a pile ready to copy to mp3. The Hermit album was always pricey on the second hand market in the early 80s it would appear on Record Collector for about £500. Which was strange as Geoff Bowen still had a load of unsold ones. Colin Cripps made the mp3s available about 7 years ago: http://coventrymusichistory.typepad.com/blog/2007/05/the-hermit-mountain-ash-band.html |
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06 Feb 16 - 09:50 AM (#3770956) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,stevie Has anyone got a copy of Somewhere in Japan/No More Nagasaki that they can send me or put on youtube? I've hunted but cannot find one and am really keen to hear it! I'd be eternally grateful! Thanks. |
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31 Mar 18 - 04:30 PM (#3914351) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: konig Does anyone hear have an Mp3 of Martin's first album 'Something New' from 1971. Would very mcuh like to hear it. Thank you. |
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02 Apr 18 - 10:54 AM (#3914706) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: konig Did happen to get in contact with a fellow in France that has a copy of Martin's first album "Something New," and he has sent me only a couple of tracks so far that sound really awesome, am waiting on the other 10 tracks from him; but listening to these, as they sound so good, am also interested in getting a copy of his send album as well "Up's and Downs" if anyone also has a recording of this, it would be great. I am just an old collector who likes to listen to song's conveniently. Thank you in advance! Richard |
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04 Apr 18 - 12:52 PM (#3915176) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Simon Jones This thread may now be long redundant but just a few weeks back I came across a an excellent cover of his first album from 1971, Someone New. it was pristine but sadly without the record and the bloke selling it had no idea where the disc was. On the back however it stated that Martin was first a rock guitarist who 'discovered' folk and thus wandered in that direction. He recorded for Tradition Records based at the time in Macclesfield, Cheshire, just down the road from where I live. Fortunately the God of record collecting was watching me as when a few days later on a visit to a Manchester music store, what did I come across in the discount box but a perfect copy of Martin's second album Ups and Downs in it's green sleeve which notes on the back that he's a 'maturing talent who mixes his own songs with traditional material,' as indeed he does with gentle backing from guitar, fiddle, mandolin and flute. It makes quite an engaging package! Both Martin and Graham Jones did indeed play on the Yorkshire collective folk rock album by The Mountain Ash Band, The Hermit. It was as rare as hen's teeth until it was given a CD reissue by Vinyl Tap in 1995. One final point, I seem to recall reading years ago in a long gone copy of Folk News that Martin and Graham had their guitars taken from a gig they were playing in Yorkshire. Wonder if they ever got them back? Just thought you'd like to know. Simon Jones fRoots. |
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22 Apr 18 - 02:33 PM (#3919184) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Keely Grattan Interesting thread. Graham Jones played with Leeds Eastern European Folk band Caravanserai for many years. I was lucky to work with him and he is a fabulous musician. I'd love to hear the recordings he did with Martin Carter. As far as I'm aware he is still living and playing around Leeds. |
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24 Apr 18 - 03:00 PM (#3919713) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Nat Clare Hey I loved that duo. Saw em loads in the seventies at small folk clubs last time in Stockport at the little boozer whose name escapes me as do all copies of their vinyl!! Dead jealous of the Manchester find! |
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18 May 18 - 10:06 AM (#3925471) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Ilkley exile https://spida1.bandcamp.com/ |
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19 May 18 - 01:01 PM (#3925729) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Ilkley exile I have tried to contact Spida through the link on the site above but got no response. He had a heart attack August 2017, was hoping to have a bypass surgery Sept, nothing since. The link above has links to pay for tracks, I am sure I am not the only person who would hope things are OK with him. A talented man, and very humorous. |
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14 Jan 19 - 03:59 PM (#3971480) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Malcolm Payne Hi all - I check in every year or so at this page, and was surprised to read of Spida’s heart attack in August 2017, as I had actually managed to track him down briefly in October 2017 via Facebook, and he sounded fine, at least “on screen”. He told me that he’s living in Belfast now, after spells in Spain, Holland and New York, gigging in Ireland and a bit in Scotland. Says he’s still writing and recording. I definitely had a secondary motive for tracking him down, i was trying to get the lyrics to his amazing song “To the Brim” which him and Graham used to finish sets with back in the early ’80’s. Just one of the loveliest tunes I’ve ever heard, and I still remember the melody and chords etc to this day. He told me he remembers it, but when I wrote a follow up message begging him for the lyrics, I didn’t hear back. And i’m not on FB any more, but if Martin or Graham are ever on here, I wish you both the very best . . Malcolm |
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16 Mar 20 - 07:33 AM (#4039864) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Steve Taylor Hi Malcolm, are you still wanting the lyrics to “To the Brim”. I have a recording of if. Steve Taylor Stevet381@gmail.com |
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17 Mar 20 - 10:37 PM (#4040395) Subject: Lyr Add: To the Brim (Martin Carter-Graham Jones) From: cnd Lyrics to "To the Brim" per the recording shared with me by Steve Taylor: I hide in the shadows when I am blue No, you can't see me, oh, but I can see you And I am silently watching you Watching your scene Come on now Come clean Now go and find me the ocean where swallows do swim And I will give you my laughter You can take all my sunsets I will deliver my river And I will fill you Oh yes I will fill you to the brim Now kindness is fine, as I am sure you will agree Even a drifter has given to me And I take the coin in exchange for the key To follow the sun and be free So now go and find me the ocean where swallows do swim And I will give you my laughter You can take all my sunsets I will deliver my river And I will fill you Oh yes I will fill you to the brim Here on this high road, well I look for the signs Keeping a keen eye on the people passing by Me, in the shadows And you in the light I said come to my window tonight And I will give you the ocean where swallows do swim And I will give you my laughter You can take all my sunsets I will deliver my river And I will fill you Oh yes I will fill you to the brim So I hide in the shadows when I am blue No, you can't see me, oh, but I can see you And I am silently watching you Watching your scene Come on now, please Come clean So now go and find me the ocean where swallows do swim And I will give you my laughter You can take all my sunsets I will deliver my river And I will fill you Oh yes I will fill you to the brim Right up to the brim To the brim |
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12 Oct 21 - 03:19 PM (#4122705) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Jon Late to this conversation. I knew Martin when I lived in Bingley in the '70s. They played at Bingley College more than once. I have a recording of Martin at the Bacca Pipes in Keighley, from around '85 I think. I also have two CDs worth of material from Matin and Graham if anyone is interested. jonsattic@icloud.com |
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31 Oct 22 - 01:17 PM (#4156841) Subject: RE: Help: Martin Carter and Graham Jones From: GUEST,Tony Hardy I came across this forum randomly and see it goes back many years. I met Martin & Graham at Poynton Folk Club in my teens and was involved with them for several years getting them folk club bookings when a lot of clubs didn't want to know about contemporary music. They played several times at Exeter University Folk Club (73-76) and I met them again when I moved to London. They had a manager and some support for a year or so (I guess around 1977-78) but nothing ultimately came of it. They also had a great supporter in sound engineer Greg Jackman (someone else I should look up). I lost touch with them eventually and have looked before for info about where they are both now. Reading this thread has been invaluable but I do hope Martin's by-pass operation was successful and he's still around. It's a little worrying that the trial runs cold in 2017. I think the Bandcamp page for Spida is dormant as they has been nothing posted for 7 years. I have some Carter & Jones songs from the 70's on cassette tapes - mainly live recordings in clubs. Graham's bass playing was something else. I'll have to dig it out to remind me of song titles but I remember they often opened with "Roger & Me", a song about Martin's guitar and I also particularly loved "Market Day in Montpassier" (spelling might not be right but it was about a small village in Frances near the Dordognes and its special tourtiere pies with prunes & custard!) If everyone has any kind of update I'll check in here and can also be contacted via my music website www.fifty3.net |